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August 14

Portal:Current events/2019 August 14

August 14, 2019 (2019-08-14) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian Civil War, 2019 Northwestern Syria offensive A Syrian Air Force Sukhoi Su-22 jet is shot down by rebel forces near the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Governorate, Syria. Hayat Tahrir al-Sham jihadists say they have captured the pilot. (BBC News) (Al Masdar News) Business and economy Economy of Germany The Federal Statistical Office of Germany discloses that Germany's gross domestic product shrank by 0.1% in the second quarter. (The Guardian) The Scholarly Publishing and Academic Resources Coalition, a U.S.-based organization that aims to keep educational materials broadly accessible, has asked the Antitrust Division of the Justice Department to halt a planned merger between two large textbook companies, McGraw-Hill and Cengage, a merger it claims will cause students "irreparable harm". (Reuters) Health and environment California regulators announce a ban on chlorpyrifos, an organophosphate nerve agent used as a pesticide. (Los Angeles Times) France bans electric pulse fishing. (AFP via Yahoo! News} Law and crime August 2019 Philadelphia shooting Six police officers are shot, sustaining non-life threatening injuries, by a gunman in Philadelphia; a seventh officer is injured in a related automobile accident nearby. (CNN) (NBC News) Nisour Square massacre In a third trial, Nicholas Slatten is sentenced to life in prison. (AFP via VoA) Politics and elections Crisis in Venezuela Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro creates a new government ministry, the Ministry of Tourism and Foreign Trade. (Venezuelanalysis) Tarek William Saab strips the parliamentary immunity of the opposition politicians Juan Pablo García, Tomás Guanipa and José Guerra. (Venezuelanalysis) A Norwegian delegation arrives in Venezuela to restart dialogues to end the presidential crisis. (Reuters)

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RD: Ningali Lawford

Article: Ningali Lawford (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start class article. Death reported on 14 August. DBigXrayᗙ 06:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support especially when the Wikipedia:Women_in_Red get to her as August is Indigenous Month in that Project. --Bronwyn Gannan (talk) 08:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC).

RD: Polly Farmer

Article: Graham Farmer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Age
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mattinbgn (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The article is currently the subject of a Requested move from Graham Farmer to Polly Farmer. The latter is the person's clear common name and is already a redirect. HiLo48 (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose A few unsourced patches, but the article is not far off. Hrodvarsson (talk) 04:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Hrodvarsson: I have added a couple of references that cover his awards, and membership of premiership teams. Are there other concerns? (Maybe you could cn them.) HiLo48 (talk) 06:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support he is probably one of the first Excitement Machines of the VFL and WAFL.

August 13

Portal:Current events/2019 August 13

August 13, 2019 (2019-08-13) (Tuesday) Business and economy China–United States trade war The United States Trade Representative announces a delay until December 15 on a significant number of products affected by 10% import tariffs announced on August 1 and set to be imposed in September. (CNBC) (Reuters) Verizon agrees to sell the social networking site Tumblr to Automattic, owner of WordPress.com, for less than $10 million, less than two years after acquiring the site in 2017. (Los Angeles Times) (Axios) Disasters and accidents According to Interfax, the governor of Arkhangelsk Oblast dismisses as "complete nonsense" the advice by authorities in Severodvinsk to residents of Nyonoksa to evacuate on August 14. This follows the accidental explosion on Thursday of what is speculated to be a nuclear-powered missile. Russian nuclear agency Rosatom says the failed test involved a "nuclear isotope power source" for a liquid-propelled rocket engine. (The Independent) (CBS News) Venezuelan migrant crisis A new poll from Consultores 21 suggests that at least 4.7 million Venezuelans are living outside of the country, with the range going up to 6 million — 19% of the nation's entire population in 2017. (Miami Herald) Law and crime 2019 Sydney stabbing attack A man in Sydney, Australia, stabs and kills one person and wounds another. The motive of the suspect, who was arrested at the crime scene, is unknown. (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) International relations 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests U.S. President Donald Trump tweets that U.S. intelligence informed him that China is moving troops to the border with Hong Kong. (Bloomberg) Politics and elections Presidency of Jair Bolsonaro Hundreds of thousands of students, schoolteachers and university professors hold demonstrations across Brazil against sweeping cuts in the education budget. Protestors also voice opposition to the government's plan to delegate the administrative and financial management of federal universities and institutes to a privately-held fund. (Agência Brasil) (Telesur English) Earlier in the day, over a thousand Indigenous Brazilian women, representing over 100 ethnic groups, march on Brasília after an overnight occupation of the headquarters of the Ministry of Health's Special Secretariat of Indigenous Health. Protestors chanted against the government's recent attempts at municipalization and privatization of the Indigenous health subsystem, and called for stricter environmental regulations. (BBC News) (Telesur English) Science and technology List of nearest exoplanets Three super-Earth exoplanets are announced orbiting around the nearby red dwarf Gliese 1061, one of which orbits within the star's habitable zone. (Arxiv)

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RD: Hussein Salem

Article: Hussein Salem (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: C Class article with good sourcing. Egyptian Tycoon. DBigXrayᗙ 06:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support. References probably adequate, though a bit patchy in most of the "career" section. —Brigade Piron (talk) 06:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Typhoon Lekima (2019)

Article: Typhoon Lekima (2019) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Typhoon Lekima impacts the Phillipines and East China, killing 80 and causing at least US$3.47 billion in damage. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Typhoon Lekima impacts the Phillipines and East China, killing at least 80 and damaging more than 900,000 acres (3,600 km²) of cropland.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Typhoon Lekima (pictured) impacts the Philippines, the Ryukyu Islands, Taiwan and East China, killing at least 80 people.
News source(s): BBC, NBCNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Hurricane Noah (talk · give credit)
• Created by ConnerTea (talk · give credit)
• Updated by A1Cafel (talk · give credit) and Nino Marakot (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Very notable typhoon that has killed more people and caused more damage than most storms do. Noah^Talk 01:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support - biggest typhoon of the year, major damage in multiple countries. Article is well sourced. -Zanhe (talk) 01:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support important and of sufficient quality. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:46, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support in both quality and importance, but I would not include the damage cost in the blurb. It would be better to find an estimate number of injured or displaced by the storm here, going back to past natural disasters. --Masem (t) 02:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Added an improved altblurb (at least, IMO) --Masem (t) 02:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb. Sam Walton (talk) 07:42, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• There's one Twitter source which I'd prefer to be replaced with a better source, but overall this is ready. Alt blurb. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support: I've added another altblurb to add more affected regions and remove the unsourced cropland phrase. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 09:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support per above. Ready to go. MSN12102001 (talk) 11:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - ready to go.BabbaQ (talk) 15:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Altblurb II, but waiting for image to clear protection queue. --Masem (t) 15:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

August 12

Portal:Current events/2019 August 12

August 12, 2019 (2019-08-12) (Monday) Business and economy 2019 Argentine general election After Argentine President Mauricio Macri comes second in Argentina's primary elections, the country's peso loses 15% of its value against the US dollar. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents At least 24 people die after floods strike across Vietnam. In the south, nearly 3,900 houses and more than 22,000 hectares of crops are submerged, mostly in Lam Dong Province. Floods also damage more than 30km of national roads, including the road leading to the tourist city of Dalat and destroy 142 hectares of aquarium farming and 4,300 cages of river-raised fish. (Al Jazeera) International relations Japan–South Korea relations In a tit-for-tat move, South Korea removes Japan from its preferred trade list. (US News) Human rights in Venezuela Venezuelan activist Tamara Sujú visits London to ask the United Kingdom, and specifically Dominic Raab, to pressure the International Criminal Court to investigate claims of torture and human rights abuses by the Nicolás Maduro government. (The Guardian) Law and crime Death of Jeffrey Epstein Federal Bureau of Investigation agents raid late financier billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's private Caribbean island, amid an investigation into alleged sex trafficking. The raid comes two days after Epstein's death. (NBC News) Politics and elections Hong Kong protests The Airport Authority Hong Kong cancels all departure flights from Hong Kong, effectively locking down Hong Kong International Airport amid ongoing unrest. (BBC News) A spokesperson for China's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office releases a statement accusing violent protesters that threw petrol bombs at Hong Kong Police officers of being "terrorists", saying that a violent minority within the pro-democracy movement poses "a serious challenge to Hong Kong's prosperity and stability". (Channel NewsAsia) 2019 Argentine general election Former Chief of the Cabinet of Ministers Alberto Fernández gains a 15% lead over incumbent President Mauricio Macri in Argentina's primaries. (The New York Times) Operation Car Wash Text messages leaked by The Intercept Brasil show that Deltan Dallagnol, former coordinator of Operation Car Wash's prosecution team and anti-corruption public figure, knew that Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's Chief of Staff Onyx Lorenzoni was involved in corruption, but chose not to act on it. (O Dia)

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RD: DJ Arafat

Article: DJ Arafat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: I am working to fix the sourcing and expansion. DBigXrayᗙ 07:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose predominantly unreferenced, and still marked as a double-stub(ble). The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Stub article and very unreferenced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

 Working yup, I am working to address these. Some help will be appreciated. :) --DBigXrayᗙ 15:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: José Luis Brown

Article: José Luis Brown (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times, Euronews
Credits:

• Nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Argentina international soccer player. FIFA World Cup winner with Argentina in 1986. Article needs some referencing work. --SirEdimon (talk) 04:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose too much unreferenced material. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lu Yonggen

Article: Lu Yonggen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Paper
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Zanhe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chinese scientist and philanthropist. Article is fully sourced. Zanhe (talk) 00:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support AGF on Chinese sources. Looks overall good. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - good to goBabbaQ (talk) 10:23, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support g2g. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 17:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

August 11

Portal:Current events/2019 August 11

August 11, 2019 (2019-08-11) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen Saudi coalition forces intervene in Aden. The Southern Transitional Council says it will not "negotiate under duress" with their coalition partners. (Reuters) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli riot police clash with Palestinians at the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Temple Mount site in East Jerusalem. With holidays coincidentally falling on the same day (11 August) this year for both Judaism and Islam, some Palestinians began protesting the admittance of Jewish visitors to the site, despite a longstanding agreement barring Jewish visitors. Following the agreement, the Al-Aqsa police barred Jews from the site. Israeli forces then fired rubber bullets and tear gas at people inside. The Jews were then admitted, which caused further tensions on both sides of the dispute. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture Pope Francis recalls the 70th anniversary of the Geneva Conventions after his Sunday afternoon Angelus address. The 1949 conventions concern the treatment of the sick, the wounded, prisoners, and civilians in war. (Vatican News) Politics and elections 2019 Guatemalan general election Conservative Alejandro Giammattei is elected in the second round of the presidential election and will take office in January 2020. (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Sergio Obeso Rivera

Article: Sergio Obeso Rivera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vatican News, Catholic Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Ravenpuff (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Cardinal of the Catholic Church; article short but referenced. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 15:07, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support Appears to be fully sourced, no obvious issues. Sam Walton (talk) 19:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support fully sourced. -Zanhe (talk) 02:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Should we really have a "Controversy" section in this article?. I think not. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

  Fair enough. I've merged the paragraph into the Biography section. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 09:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

  And it surely looks quite more neutral now. Marked this nomination ready. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support dreadful proseline but I was holding off because of the undue weight issues with a whole controversy section, better now it's been merged. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:42, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 17:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

August 10

Portal:Current events/2019 August 10

August 10, 2019 (2019-08-10) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Yemeni Civil War Fighters of the Southern Movement capture the port city of Aden from forces loyal to the internationally recognized President of Yemen Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi. (Al Jazeera) Libyan Civil War A car bomb goes off in Benghazi, killing three members of the United Nations Support Mission in Libya and two other mission members, and wounding dozens of civilians. (The Guardian) Bærum mosque shooting A man in Bærum, Norway, opens fire in Al Noor Islamic Centre, injuring a congregant. A woman was found dead at the house of the suspect. (BBC News) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli forces shoot dead four Palestinian militants near the border with Gaza, the Israeli military say. Israel Defense Forces say the men were armed with assault rifles, anti-tank missiles and hand grenades. (The Guardian) Israeli forces arrest two Palestinians who are suspected of having killed an Israeli soldier. (Jerusalem Post) Disasters and accidents The death toll due to the monsoon flooding in southern and western India rises to 147, while hundreds of thousands have been evacuated from their homes. (Al Jazeera) At least 56 people have been killed and more than a million forced from their homes as Typhoon Lekima hits eastern China. (BBC News) Morogoro tanker explosion At least 75 people have been killed and 60 injured in a fuel tanker explosion in Morogoro, Tanzania. (Xinhua) Five people are confirmed dead and three injured following an accidental rocket explosion on a naval test range near Severodvinsk, Russia on Thursday August 8th. The rocket used an experimental nuclear isotope liquid fuel source, causing a brief localized spike in radiation. 9500 nearby residents were evacuated. (BBC News) International relations North Korea–United States relations In a letter sent by North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to U.S. President Donald Trump, Kim apologizes for the testing of short-range missiles. Trump says he expects to meet Kim soon and see a denuclearized North Korea as "one of the most successful countries in the world". (Clarín) Law and crime Death of Jeffrey Epstein American financier Jeffrey Epstein is found dead in his Manhattan jail cell in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial for sex trafficking charges. (The New York Times) Politics and elections 2019 Moscow City Duma election As many as 50,000 people gathered at ongoing protests in Moscow against the Russian authorities preventing several opposition candidates from running in the election, which turned into a protest against the government in general. It is the biggest such event since the 2011 protests. (ABC News)

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9M730 Burevestnik

Article: 9M730 Burevestnik (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 9M730 Burevestnik, a Russian experimental nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile, blows up, killing seven people. (Post)
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Mzajac (talk · give credit)
• Updated by BlackFlanker (talk · give credit), Smeagol 17 (talk · give credit) and Oranjelo100 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I realise that as a tragedies go, it doesn't rise to the level of a truck explosion or car bombing, but these are common events and this is rare and interesting. A lot of people find these sort of accidents fascinating. And there's always the danger that one day we may wind up on the wrong end of something like this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support. Pretty important since this is a notable weapon and explosion left radioactive contamination. Oranjelo100 (talk) 02:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose As far as I understand there's no consensus among experts that the reason for the radiation leak was the Burevestnik rocket. As a reminder, the official response was that the disaster happened on a "nuclear battery unit", whatever the hell that means. 5.44.170.9 (talk) 04:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose The story is still developing, but relatively little information has been made public and the article still needs improvements.--Tdl1060 (talk) 05:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose For now, the mention in the article is enough. Also it is claimed that the exploded rocket used liquid fuel, and Burevestnik uses solid. And also, I think the amount of radiation released supports the claim that contamination was from a radioisotope thermoelectric generator, not a reactor. Smeagol 17 (talk) 07:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

2019 Rugby Championship

Article: 2019 Rugby Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In rugby union, South Africa win the Rugby Championship. (Post)
News source(s): RTE
Credits:

• Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITNR and not nominated three days ago, needs work on prose for sure, but just putting it out there in case we all missed it. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose – Charticle. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Explosion in Morogoro, Tanzania

Article: Morogoro tanker explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fuel tanker collides with a motorcycle, causing an explosion leading to 62 deaths and 70 injuries in Morogoro, Tanzania (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Morogoro, Tanzania a fuel tanker explodes, causing the deaths of 62 people and injuring 70
Alternative blurb II: ​ At least 62 people died and more than 70 injured in a fuel tanker explosion in Tanzania
News source(s): CNN, NPR, New York Times, BBC, NYT 2, archive 2
Credits:

• Nominated by Boothsift (talk · give credit)
• Created by Jim Michael (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I updated the article, might have a few errors though. BoothSiftTalks 07:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support alt Blurb II. I have merged my duplicate nomination above as well as the article. The article is a well referenced start class article and ready IMHO.--DBigXrayᗙ 07:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alt 2. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 08:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – "The event was similar to one that occurred in Kenya in 2011, in which 100 people were killed." Really, says who? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 09:29, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb II. Significant mass casualty incident. The problematic commentary referenced in the above oppose vote has been removed.--Tdl1060 (talk) 09:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support per above MSN12102001 (talk) 10:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - per aboveBabbaQ (talk) 11:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support – in principle, but both article title and blurb must specify that it was a fuel tanker truck that exploded. In Eng.-lang. usage, the phrase "fuel tanker" may refer to a ship or an airplane. Ready notation therefore removed. – Sca (talk) 14:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted, adding "Truck" per Sca.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Masem (talk • contribs)

Thanks User:Masem. Can someone post the credits ? --DBigXrayᗙ 17:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

done by User:Ammarpad --DBigXrayᗙ 18:58, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) (Posted to RD; no consensus to post blurb): Jeffrey Epstein

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Jeffrey Epstein (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ American financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (pictured), facing numerous charges of child sex trafficking, kills himself while in U.S. federal custody. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In United States federal custody while facing numerous charges of international sex trafficking, Jeffrey Epstein (pictured) dies of an apparent suicide.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (pictured) kills himself in US federal custody during an ongoing international sex trafficking investigation.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (pictured) dies of an apparent suicide while in U.S. federal custody, facing numerous charges of international sex trafficking.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ American financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (pictured) dies of an apparent suicide while in U.S. federal custody, facing numerous charges of international sex trafficking.
News source(s): NY Times, ABC7 NY, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Pudeo (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article seems to be in order because it has been in the spotlight recently so most of it has been under scrutiny. --Pudeo (talk) 13:13, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Not because of the person but the situation around him, this may be blurb-appropriate, somehing like "While facing numerous charges of sex trafficking, Epstein commits suicide while in a New York jail." or something like that. --Masem (t) 13:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment - He's definitely noteworthy enough for RD but, as pointed out above, the case around him was very notable. --2A00:23C4:3E0F:4400:65B5:3AF9:D9B7:A502 (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment, I also believe this individual "deserves" a blurb. A period for this indivual. --CoryGlee (talk) 13:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Updated into a blurb. Obviously gigantic story that will capture the media attention for days if not weeks Also, support alt-blurb 3 blurb. 5.44.170.9 (talk) 14:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Comment – Note that Epstein is a convicted sex offender. He was convicted of soliciting underage girls. We can't say "alleged pedophile" because he has already been convicted of a crime that in layman's terms is tantamount to pedophilia. He is a convicted pedophile facing new charges. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 14:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support for 'Recent deaths' section. Störm (talk) 14:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb, a local case with limited repurcussions. Should be published as ITN RD if there are no other issues.--DBigXrayᗙ 14:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The trafficking case involved notable figures from all over the world including, allegedly, Prince Andrew, Duke of York.[3] --- Coffeeandcrumbs 14:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose any blurb that says committed suicide. Suicide is legal in New York and is also not a federal crime. Support altblurb. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 14:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • "Committed suicide" is standard language in the US. We know in other countries suicide is a crime and we'd have to be more careful on wording, but in the US it's standard terminology. --Masem (t) 15:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

    Masem, NOT TRUE. Many U.S. media are consistently saying "died by apparent suicide".[4][5][6][7][8] The NYTimes is the only source I found that says committed suicide. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

    It is true, from my admittedly anecdotal experience, that "committed" suicide is the most common phrase used for that action. 23:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  Consider the source: The NYT remains the No. 1 newspaper in the U.S. and arguably the world. Further, "commit" doesn't necessarily denote a criminal act. – Sca (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Patently untrue, I don't know of a single person in even the UK that reads the NYT at all, an American option here would be WaPo, but even that's uncommon; it's not even the most circulated or bought newspaper in the US, actually, let's not base an argument on clear hyperbole Kingsif (talk) 12:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Clearly, you should widen your circle of acquaintances. – Sca (talk) 14:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• PS: Note that the hed on the AP story now says, "Officials: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in jail cell," while that on the NYT page one promo says, "Jeffrey Epstein Hanged Himself in Jail, Officials Say." – Sca (talk) 16:42, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  This article in NYTimes used to say committed suicide less than an hour ago. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 16:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  I believe the reason why the media is mostly using "apparent suicide" rather than "committed suicide" is because there are doubts circulating as to whether Epstein actually died by suicide. For example: [9] Thus, the usage of "apparent suicide" in this circumstance would not necessarily disprove the usage of "commit suicide" in cases where the manner of death is certain. NorthernFalcon (talk) 07:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  • ITN has been over the "committed suicide" phrasing before, and I'm fairly certain it was agreed that it's fine. I'm not sure objections based on such wording should be counted, given past consensus. Kingsif (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    • With significant objection. Also see sources cited above. Consensus can change. Can you offer a reason not to use altblurb. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
      • Probably that at this point in time, the cause of death is suspected suicide, the investigaton is not yet complete. (He was supposed to be under suicide watch, so there are several questions floating around). --Masem (t) 15:52, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
        • Hence the apparent. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
          • "Died of suicide" is too wishy-washy, IMO; "killed himself" is the best (assuming it's true and reliably sourced that he did, of course) as I've said before. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb – Subject was of scant general significance; notable mainly for the lurid details of his past – support RD only. – Sca (talk) 15:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Here's the rub - the way the case was going, with this week revealing a number of high profile individuals that were claimed to be involved with Epstein's sex trafficking, there was a likely high chance we would have posted the results of the conviction - this is a high-profile trial even if it only "local". The fact that the individual decided to end his involvement via suicide - well, he won't be convicted, but there will continue to be ongoing investigation, and the case remains of high importance. Hence why a blurb makes sense here. --Masem (t) 15:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

He may be important to whatever other cases may arise from this situation, but posting his death as an RD is sufficient for the record. – Sca (talk) 16:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Wikipedia is (in theory at least) meant to be an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or a gossip magazine. Similar to Sca's comment above, the only reason this is deemed to be newsworthy is because of the nature of the allegations against him. It's extremely likely that most other people in the finance sector are not deemed to be worthy of a blurb upon their death. Chrisclear (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support RD only This guy is notable enough to warrant ITNC RD and I see no CN tags on his article. Multiple sources have reported his death. However, I see little hope of us ever getting the blurb correct and I'm not sure that his death warrants a blurb anyway. pbp 15:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Ready for RD RD is a no brainer. The article is in good shape including solid referencing. Weak Support for blurb. Although there is a sensationalist element to this story, his death does seem to meet the criteria for a blurb at WP:ITNRD. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support AltBlurb The circumstances around his death are sufficient in my view to warrant a blurb. I don't think it's being gossipy to acknowledge that. As Masem said, this was a significant trial implicating multiple high-profile individuals, and the death of the central figure seems significant. Regardless, his death should be posted as an RD if not as a blurb. Cwilson97 (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support Alt Blurb Epstein may not seem like a hugely significant figure, but this story goes beyond him. Lepricavark (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support altblurb 2 Deserves a blurb, Epstein shouldn't be in bold if the story is not just the death but also how big the case was and the connected relevance (i.e. he wouldn't get a blurb on his own, don't make him the target). Kingsif (talk) 15:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • No objection except for the spelling of paedophile. That is not common spelling in the U.S. Also see concerns by Masem of not clear cut that he killed himself. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    • I added Altblurb3 which combines the best of both altblurb and altblurb2. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 16:05, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support one of the altblurb: This isn't just a death, this is a major development in an ongoing news story. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:03, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support blurb Clearly. The death, rather than his life, is indisputably the story, and it is front-page news internationally. This is a significant development in his already-notable case. Davey2116 (talk) 16:22, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support blurb - Just RD? What the hell. STSC (talk) 16:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this enlightening comment. – Sca (talk) 16:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb – Specifically altblurb. This is a major news story. Kurtis ^(talk) 16:33, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Blurb discussion open. Spencer^T•C 16:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support AltBlurb 3 per others. Clearly meets level of significance, and has implications outside of the U.S. Spengouli (talk) 16:41, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

"Clearly" is one of the two most overused words in the English language. – Sca (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this enlightening comment. :) Spengouli (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

"Inconceivable!" --Masem (t) 16:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb. He might only have been a name in US politics until a short while ago but now his death is prominently reported around the world. Here are some examples: Süddeutsche Zeitung (Germany) (third item on their homepage), Le Monde (France) (first item on their homepage), Corriere della Sera (Italy) (fourth item), The Guardian (UK) (top news story). Regards SoWhy 17:04, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I think "prominently" is pushing it a bit. Its coverage on Le Monde is now at a par with a story about a provincial hospital. On Corriere it is not even the top ranking US story, and is ranked behind this important bit of world news. This is really a US story only, and not a particularly prominent one either. —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Not to mention this bit of world news. – Sca (talk) 22:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb. There has been a significant creep towards blurbs for RDs. These should be really exceptional. His criminal record is hardly enough to justify treatment as a world leader, and there are plenty of other financiers. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

This isn't a case of a death of someone at the top of their field. The blurb is proposed because the death, rather than the person himself, is newsworthy (as per the death blurbs criteria at WP:ITNRD; if the person's death itself is newsworthy for either the manner of death or the newsworthy reaction to it, it may merit a blurb). Davey2116 (talk) 19:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I like the use of the word "may" there. I presume you are not suggesting that suicides are intrinsically "newsworthy" so you must be referring to the reporting of it. I must admit I do not see this at all. It is true that there has been a fair bit of rather bland coverage, but there has hardly been a "newsworthy reaction". —Brigade Piron (talk) 09:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb of any kind. This is a case of what-might-have-been. If he had stayed alive and his criminal case proceeded, he might have named a lot of powerful and rich people who were his "clients" and that could indeed have had major repercussions, in the U.S. one beyond. But with Epstein dead, none of this is going to happen. Also, I find the phrasing "apparent suicide" highly objectionable. There has not been any suggestion in any of the RS reporting the story that his death was anything other than suicide. Calling it "apparent suicide" casts doubt on this fact. We should not be promoting or worse yet, creating, conspiracy theories around his death. Nsk92 (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

On the contrary, it has not been confirmed as suicide at all. Hence we must say "apparent" or somesuch, if we have a blurb in the first place. I would lean towards not having one.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The term "apparent suicide" is used in many RS reporting on the death (e.g., NBC News, WaPo, CBS, WSJ, etc.). Davey2116 (talk) 19:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb - we post blurbs based on real world significance, not on sensationalism. An accused rapist killing himself is not blurb-worthy. -Zanhe (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Actually the criteria for death blurbs are listed at WP:ITNRD. This appears to meet that criteria. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:41, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Zanhe, when the accused rapist is tied to Trump and Prince Andrew, he's not just "any old" rapist. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb it is still the #1 news article on BBC.com, and it is of international news significance as well. Here in Finland they ran it as a segment in the evening TV news. It is certainly a bigger news story than what's the current top ITN now, Toni Morrison dying of old age, in any case. --Pudeo (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  [10] --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb per Zanhe, Sca et al. Sensationalized trivia. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb per above. And for the record I believe "committed suicide" is fine, it's totally standard usage and doesn't imply a crime at all. Although in this case it's complicated because the suicide is not confirmed. Best to stick to RD.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
  • [11], [12], [13], and [14] all disagree with you about the use of the term. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. It briefly hit the headlines, yes, but there's no substance in any of the stories beyond "he committed suicide and also he was convicted of these things"; no sense that the death itself is widely significant. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  Vanamonde93, it's being investigated by the FBI. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  I don't see the fact that it is a suspicious death making it a death of global significance. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb as I am hearing a lot of Jeffrey Epstein in the news. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 19:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb An RD is significant enough. While this is the news section, Wikipedia is not a sensationalist tabloid. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support blurb: obvious international significance, and its newsworthiness is only amplified by the "he ran into my knife ten times" nature of his death. Sceptre (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  Support blurb I was thinking of "Who said anything about sabotage?!" but YEAH. It's CBALL to say imply unproven facts, but that doesn't mean we have to be so obtuse as to pretend this was a regular old pedophile who offed himself. Also, "committed" should be avoided because it is quite likely he was murdered. "died by apparent suicide" is factually true. GreatCaesarsGhost 20:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb given Epstein's high status. Altblurb II (which I slightly modified to use American spelling) is the best, IMO. "Dying of suicide" isn't as direct as "committing suicide", and since the latter seems to have some objections "kills himself" is the best. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb just another criminal avoiding justice? The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 22:03, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, you can't libel the dead. – Sca (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Don't have strong opinions on whether the blurb should be posted or not, but could we not use "convicted pedophile"? As explained in the lead of pedophilia, pedophile is not the same as child molester (nor do I see pedophile being used by WP:RS); "convicted child sex abuser" or "convicted child sex molester" works better, although RS generally seem to refer to alleged child sex abuse. Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:15, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  I'm not seeing anywhere in the article that he was "convicted" of a crime called "child molesting" either - if we want to headline a person about their past crimes, we should ensure that the headline matches the article. (The article may need improving if this is lacking). — xaosflux ^Talk 00:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  That his victims were children should be in the blurb, but putting "child sex offender" can mean that he was a sex offender who was also a child. "Sex offender of children" works but is clunky, IMO. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb Discussion of his testimony and impact on high ranking individuals is speculation, nevertheless clearly significant story with international impact as evidenced by being lead story on UK news media. 2A00:23C5:508F:3E01:A46A:4F7A:3702:2CF (talk) 22:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support blurb Meets notability for Wikipedia:ITNRD. MarvellingLiked (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Comment: Per concerns raised above, since pedophilia is not a crime and one cannot thus be "convicted" of it, I have edited all blurbs that contained that phrase to "convicted child molester", which is a crime. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alternative blurb 3. Cause of death itself is a major story, so meets notability for Wikipedia:ITNRD.--Tdl1060 (talk) 02:16, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb. Per the supports, the circumstances surrounding his death are obviously suspicious and are causing a huge media frenzy. Merlin^sorca 02:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support blurb. And “commit suicide” is fine as it is standard usage and does not equate to “criminal act.” Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Comments. I'm fine with the "commit suicide" verbiage, it is a common phrase. As far as the "child molester" phase, this isn't used in the article at all. The article does say he has an actual conviction of "procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18", and that he was a registered "sex offender". I'd support more a blurb that used this phrasing that is already in the article lede (American financier and convicted sex offender). That, or improve the article to better support that headline first. Procuring appears to have a different definition then molestation according to their articles as well. — xaosflux ^Talk 04:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Literally is also common verbiage but we don't use that either because it is ambiguous and misused. "Commit suicide" is "outdated, largely inaccurate and stigmatised phrase."[15] --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
  • We can use "American financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein (pictured) kills himself while in U.S. federal custody, facing numerous charges of child sex trafficking." --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:58, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
    • @Coffeeandcrumbs: That wording looks good. Like Xaos, I was also concerned about whether the charge he was actually convicted of can be called child molestation, but didn't have time to look into that in my original comment. I've added that as alt blurb 5 (with slight rewording to fix grammar issues). Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb per Captin Eek, TRM, etc. (And 'commit suicide' is perfectly acceptable English). - SchroCat (talk) 05:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The phrase ‘committed suicide’ should not be used because it implies criminality, thereby contributing to the stigma experienced by those who have lost a loved one to suicide and discouraging suicidal individuals from seeking help.[16] by World Health Organization --- Coffeeandcrumbs 05:58, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Coffeeandcrumbs, do you really think that this story is all about avoiding stigma? —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
      • Huh? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 09:20, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
        • @Coffeeandcrumbs: Well, It appears you brought up several links to stories and thinkpieces to show that 'commit suicide' is like a wrong grammar, obsoleted phrase or like we're 'committing' a serious grammatical gaffe by using the phrase. I think it's time to challenge that narrative. 'Commit suicide' is perfectly correct English. Period. Individually commit means to to carry into action deliberately and suicide means the act of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally: that's from American dictionary. No amount of thinkpieces and language engineering can change these meanings. Not in this decade and not even in this century. No one, not even United Nations (or any one for that matter) can prescribe overnight 'commit suicide' is wrong. So please spare us more links. We know there are attempts to dissuade its usage for some reasons, but we also know it's correct English with unambiguous meaning. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

          Ammarpad, I have never claimed it was "wrong grammar" or "grammatical gaffe". I am claiming it is IGNORANT, offensive, disparaging, and inaccurate to say that someone "committed suicide". It is an outdated and stigmatizing turn of phrase. Most importantly, ITS USE IS NOT NECESSARY! You have a perfectly accurate and acceptable alternative. Epstein killed himself. Simple, accurate, grammatically correct, use of active voice, and not a euphemism. Insisting on using "committed suicide" is POV pushing. The BBC story used to say "apparently commit suicide" and now says "apparently kill himself". We are quickly becoming the last legitimate place on the internet that uses this ignorant term. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

          That's simply not true. And as there's some debate over whether or not he was on "suicide watch", I don't think this terminology is going away any time soon from many mainstream reliable sources. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 19:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

          A quote does not count. I will email NYTimes and I guarantee you they will change this. They have done several corrections in the past 48 hours. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb significance of this compared to, e.g., ongoing Romanian / Hong Kong / Russian protests which involve tens of thousands of people over a long period of time is very minute indeed. Banedon (talk) 06:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. "In general, if a person's death is only notable for what they did while alive, it belongs as an RD link." Suicide is a quite common response to imprisonment and serious criminal accusations. It's still the case that his death is newsworthy because he was a rich man accused of loathsome crimes. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 07:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Suppport alt blurb (I) Contrary to some opposes above, the suicide itself is also now a story with federal inquiries, including the FBI.[17]—Bagumba (talk) 07:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  The FBI handle lots of cases in a year, but that doesn't particularly raise them to the threshold required for ITN. This is a local-interest story, and while his death was unexpected it's not hugely significant on a global scale.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:43, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  Shrug. Please do not ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one.—Bagumba (talk) 09:48, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb, big international story and definitely blurbworthy. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 13:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

In this case, "big" = relentlessly hyped because prurient. – Sca (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Please consider striking this. Prurient means titillating or appealing to lustful or sexual desire. By saying this is hyped because it is prurient, you are suggesting we're all secretly getting off on stories about kids getting raped. That the crimes are of a sexual nature is true, that doesn't mean interest is likewise derived. The key points of curiosity here are 1) a rich person getting away with crimes because they are rich, and 2) connected to powerful people 3) who may themselves be complicit, 4)despite the crimes being of the sort that are not typically swept under the rug. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

This user does not reply to 'users' who do not exist. – Sca (talk)

• Comment The template appears to support only up to four altblurbs, and since no one seems to be supporting the original blurb I moved the former Altblurb V to the main "Blurb" parameter. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 15:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Kommentar – FYI, four European Wikis – German, Dutch, Spanish and Norwegian – list Epstein under 'recent deaths,' but none include him in their versions of ITN. – Sca (talk) 15:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  But the Chinese one does, and this is all WP:OTHERSTUFF.—Bagumba (talk) 15:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

One must wonder at the relevance of the Epstein tale to Chinese society. – Sca (talk) 15:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

One must wonder at the relevance of Solomon P. Sharp to Chinese society. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Comment I stress this part from ITN guidelines about deaths: For deaths where the cause of death itself is a major story (such as the unexpected death of a prominent figure by homicide, suicide, or accident) or where the events surrounding the death merit additional explanation (such as ongoing investigations, major stories about memorial services or international reactions, etc.) a blurb may be merited to explain the death's relevance.. There is definitely an allowance for this story, due to the unusualness of the death (in the midst of a major story, and now with several questions being raised of how he did it when he was to be on suicide watch). It can still be opposed, but I think most supporting are not doing this in recognizing Epstein as a transformative leader. -Masem (t) 16:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Nearly 5,000 Americans committed suicide in custody in 2014 (1) and it is probably higher now. Is that unusual? —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

How many of those 5,000 Americans have substantial ties to many important people, including a sitting US President, a former US President, and a member of the British Royal Family? 331dot (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb per User:Masem and User:331dot above. Ionmars10 (talk) 23:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support alt 3 blurb - in the news, unusual death, significant alleged criminal activity. starship.paint (talk) 03:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• Boldly reopening. I see 25 votes supporting a blurb and 15 opposing one. How the f*ck is this not a consensus? 5.44.170.9 (talk) 04:10, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• That percentage would not pass an RFA, and in any event consensus is not a majority vote; the discussion above resulted in significant opposition that did not appear to be assuaged in the course of the discussion. Having said all that, I have no position as to whether the discussion should be extended. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 9

Portal:Current events/2019 August 9

August 9, 2019 (2019-08-09) (Friday) Business and economy The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has given waivers to 31 small oil refineries, freeing them from obligations to blend biofuels into their gasoline. (Reuters) The International Monetary Fund finds that China's currency, the yuan, has been "broadly stable" against other currencies over the last year. The yuan is pulled down by market pressures due to the slowing economy. Suggesting little intervention by China's central bank, the IMF position is at odds with the designation of China by the U.S. as a currency manipulator. (AP News) Disasters and accidents A landslide in south-eastern Myanmar kills 59 people. (BBC News) A massive power failure affects most of the northwestern and southeastern United Kingdom and London, leaving thousands of homes, various train lines, and parts of Newcastle International Airport without power. (Reuters) Law and crime Canadian tourist Kristian Lee Baxter, who had been held in Syrian detention since 2018, is released in Lebanon. (BBC News) Le Parisien claims French ex-head of security Yves Bonnet brokered a secret deal with Fatah in the 1980s offering immunity in exchange for no further terror attacks in France. (The Guardian) Politics and elections Deputy Prime Minister of Italy Matteo Salvini presents a vote of no-confidence against Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Miriam Rivera

Article: Miriam Rivera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing. Transgender TV personality. Death announced on 9 Aug. DBigXrayᗙ 14:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Comment @DBigXray: please find a way to remove the COPYVIO deleted YouTube ref. Subject appears to be notable but I would also avoid refs to The Sun tabloid. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind feedback. I have removed the Youtube refs. Sun is not being used for anything controversial. --DBigXrayᗙ 06:01, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Comment. The article is adequate but has almost nothing on the modelling/reality television aspects which are presumable the source of notability. Seems a rather big gap.—Brigade Piron (talk) 09:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - good enough for RD now.BabbaQ (talk) 12:19, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Ready. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 06:04, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Paul Findley

Article: Paul Findley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): State Journal-Register, Military News, Seattle TimesKko updated =
Credits:

• Nominated by Boothsift (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 BoothSiftTalks 05:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support Article has good sourcing and he was known for his anti-Zionist views. (Nonstopmaximum) 08:09, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:05, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - per sourcing.BabbaQ (talk) 17:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. Sam Walton (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

August 8

Portal:Current events/2019 August 8

August 8, 2019 (2019-08-08) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Kyrgyzstan's security forces storm the compound of former President Almazbek Atambayev on the outskirts of Bishkek for the second time after a failed overnight raid left one officer dead. Atambayev and his loyalists are "putting up severe armed resistance", according to President Sooronbay Jeenbekov. Atambayev is detained, ending a two-day standoff. One officer was killed, while 80 people were injured. (Reuters) (BBC News) War in Catatumbo The Human Rights Watch breaks a report on violence around the Colombia—Venezuela border since the Colombian peace process, announcing that there has been an ongoing War in the Catatumbo region since early 2018. (The Guardian) (Human Rights Watch) Disasters and accidents Floods hit the states of Karnataka and Kerala in India, resulting in 11 dead and 43,000 people being evacuated. (Gulf News) Health and environment Dengue fever outbreaks The Department of Health of the Philippines declares a national dengue epidemic in the country, as cases spike to 622 deaths. (Gulf News) Law and crime Uruapan massacre Jalisco New Generation Cartel massacres 19 people, hanging 9 of their desecrated bodies from a bridge in Uruapan. (The Guardian) Politics and elections Matteo Salvini, Italian Deputy Prime Minister, announces the collapse of the coalition government with the Five Stars Movement, opening the possibility of holding a snap election. (Politico) Marek Kuchciński, speaker of the Sejm in Poland, announces his resignation after admitting the use of a government jet for 23 personal flights. (Euractiv)

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RD: Ernie Colón

Article: Ernie Colón (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 60+ yr career comic artist across DC, Marvel and others. Unfortunately article has a ways to go sourcing wise. Masem (t) 22:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Weak Support While the article is of reasonable length and covers the career. The lead needs to be expanded. --DBigXrayᗙ 07:28, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose no justification for uploading a non-free image within moments of this individual's death. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support Overall ready for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 12:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine on the whole. Sam Walton (talk) 07:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rosie Ruiz

Article: Rosie Ruiz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Tdunsky (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Marathon runner (allegedly...) who got famous by cheating her way to winning the Boston Marathon Tdunsky(Talk) 15:06, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape. --Jayron32 15:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose This happened on July 8, not August 8 and therefore I think this is rather stale. Rockphed (talk) 18:37, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

  If the death was not announced until now, it's eligible. – Ammarpad (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

  The article had it on 8/1 (uncited, but the details are accurate) and again on 8/5 (this time with the ref). Running Magazine had it on the 5th. This is stale. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  No, that's not stale. Your dates are both within last week in August. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose an unref para in there. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support I removed the unreferenced paragraph, rationale is in my edit summary. If someone disagrees please ping me, otherwise the article is fully referenced now. Kees08 (Talk) 01:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support This is ready. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 06:00, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Fabrizio Saccomanni

Article: Fabrizio Saccomanni (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): EuroNews, Corriere del Ticino
Credits:

• Nominated by Boothsift (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 BoothSiftTalks 22:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 07:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support This is ready. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 11:42, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Saudi Arabia loosens travel restrictions on women

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Article: Women's rights in Saudi Arabia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Saudi Arabia loosens travel restrictions on women (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In a royal decree, Saudi Arabia loosens travel restrictions on women
News source(s): NBC, New York Times, Guardian, Jerusalem Post, Zeit
Credits:

• Nominated by Boothsift (talk · give credit)

 BoothSiftTalks 06:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose Even if true, a totalitarian dictatorship like Saudi Arabia taking one incrimental step in women liberation all the while killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, Syria, and across the world (as well as in their own country) doesn't deserve a mention on the third most popular website's main page next to anything mentioning positive change there 5.44.170.9 (talk) 08:02, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose Law isnt passed until August next year. This is just a stament of intent at this point and changes nothing. This should be brought up if the law is actually passed85.159.132.48 (talk) 08:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose as premature. Unless this gains sufficient notability to justify its own article, I would likely oppose its renomination as well. That said I would gently remind those who may be unaware that we do not weigh nominations based on any political criteria. Nor do we encourage politically pointed commentary in our discussions. Please see... WP:RGW and WP:NOTFORUM. And lastly, while we may discuss to our hearts content, we ask that editors actually vote only once (even if your IP changes). -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Ad Orientem: The two IP addresses are the same person? --BoothSiftTalks 17:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

While I can't be sure (hence my decision not to strike the latter vote), there are some remarkable similarities in their style of commentary. So yes, I strongly suspect they are the same person. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Not the same person.... and no idea how you would come to that. I am unfamillier with how to format pages so i copy whoever is above me, still learning and my work computer wont let me log into my account. Pleasae assume good faith85.159.132.48 (talk) 08:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose for now, without prejudice when/if it actually becomes law. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:31, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Even if this were significant enough to post (I am ambivalent on that), it has now fallen from headlines. It was first reported late July and most mainstream media by August 1. Nothing substantial thereafter. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – In the global scheme this administrative change would be of only passing significance. Sca (talk) 15:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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August 7

Portal:Current events/2019 August 7

August 7, 2019 (2019-08-07) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan 7 August 2019 Kabul bombing A car bombing by the Taliban kills 14 and injures over 150 in Kabul, Afghanistan. (CNN) Disaster and accidents The death toll of the heat wave in Japan rises to 57, while 18,347 others are hospitalized. (Japan Times) Law and crime 2019 California stabbing rampage A Garden Grove, California, man stabs and kills four people and wounds two others in a two-hour crime spree at a series of Orange County locations. Both injured victims are expected to survive. The motive of the 33-year-old suspect, who was arrested at the last scene, appears to be robbery as well as "anger and hate." (CNN) (AP via KESQ-TV) Politics and elections 2019 Argentine general election Sources from the Brazilian government reveal that Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro suggested U.S. President Donald Trump visit Argentina in order to back the re-election of President Mauricio Macri. (La Nación) Cyntoia Brown is released from prison after serving fifteen years for killing Johnny Allen in 2004. (NY Times)

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RD: Kary Mullis

Article: Kary Mullis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://mynewsla.com/education/2019/08/08/nobel-winner-kary-banks-mullis-who-revolutionized-dna-research-dies-in-o-c/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/kary-mullis-unconventional-nobel-laureate-who-unlocked-dna-research-dies-at-74/2019/08/12/e6391612-bbed-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html
Credits:

• Nominated by Sentausa (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Lewis Penrose (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Updated, reliably sourced, of sufficient quality sentausa (talk) 14:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

• It's very close, but the last sentence of "Personal views" about being called an AIDS denialist 100% needs sourcing, and the awards need sourcing. Should not be hard to get this up before it slips off as stale. --Masem (t) 14:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Suicide Blast in Afghanistan

Article: August 2019 Kabul bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A suicide bombing in Kabul, Afghanistan, leads to 14 deaths and 145 injuries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A suicide bombing in Kabul, Afghanistan, leaves 14 people dead and 145 injured
Alternative blurb II: ​ A suicide bombing near a police station in Kabul, Afghanistan, leaves 14 people dead and 145 injured
News source(s): BBC, NBC, New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Boothsift (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 BoothSiftTalks 18:44, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support. This number of victims is remarkable. Good to go. MSN12102001 (talk) 19:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
• We're going to need a standalone article on this before it can be ITN. --Masem (t) 19:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Masem: Someone else has made one. --BoothSiftTalks 22:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I see the article but it's far too short for ITN. And checking news -- coverage is surprisingly light. I mean, we have BBC and NYTimes covering it, but its not bringing up as many hits as I thought. We do need to consider that this region is unstable, there are similar bombings happening all the time, and the news tends to be weary of it, hence the lack of coverage. --Masem (t) 22:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Masem: I have added a bit to the article. --BoothSiftTalks 22:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose, still a stub. Spengouli (talk) 01:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Spengouli: The article has been updated now and it is currently start class. --BoothSiftTalks 05:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Support, good work. Spengouli (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support as long as we post mass shootings in the US, there should be nothing stopping us posting these terror attacks in other similarly-afflicted countries. Weak because article isn't pulling up any trees, but just adequate. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 07:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support It seems initially this was nominated without a standalone article, but now we have something and it looks presentable. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – Sketchy – 190 words of real text – and such bombings are virtually commonplace for Afghanistan 18 years after the ill-fated U.S. invasion. – Sca (talk) 15:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Sca: The number of mass shootings in the US has also increased in which there are 250 already in 2019 only. That is probably more than the amount of bombings in Afghanistan so far. --BoothSiftTalks 05:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose – That article just doesn't cut it for me I'm afraid. Gonna need quite the revamp until its eligible to be on the front page. jackchango talk 22:51, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – Article seems good now. Significat enough attack. jackchango talk 04:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

•  Comment: @Spengouli:, @Jackchango:, @Sca:, @The Rambling Man: I have updated the article. --BoothSiftTalks 05:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support Marking ready. Spencer^T•C 14:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support --- Coffeeandcrumbs 16:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - major lethal attack. Article is now in good shape. -Zanhe (talk) 18:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. Sam Walton (talk) 09:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Henri Belolo

Article: Henri Belolo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ghmyrtle (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing. Death announced on 7 Aug, died on 3 Aug. DBigXrayᗙ 11:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 07:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support per TRM. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: David Berman (musician)

Article: David Berman (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stones
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article. I am working to fix the sourcing with good sourcing. DBigXrayᗙ 06:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support Berman was an influential musician in the indie scene whose return from hiatus last month drew with significant press attention, including profiles in Pitchfork and the AV Club as well as a reddit AMA. The wiki article is well written, thoroughly sourced, and up-to-date. Diabolical Dr Ely 15:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Unsourced paragraphs. Also the "Beginnings" section is mostly unreferenced as the one source listed supports only a small portion of the section. Possibly the case further throughout the article but I am not going to check at the moment. Hrodvarsson (talk) 05:00, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose There are entirely unsourced paragraphs throughout the article. More references are needed--BoothSiftTalks 05:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose too much unref at this time. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 07:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed A lot of improvements have been done in the sourcing area to make it worthy for ITN RD. Requesting a review again. --DBigXrayᗙ 11:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support – Article issues appear to have been resolved. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 17:03, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted - Concerns above appear to have been resolved. Sam Walton (talk) 09:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks User:Samwalton9. Can someone post the credits? --DBigXrayᗙ 12:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Done by User:Samwalton9--DBigXrayᗙ 07:43, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Tardigrades on moon

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Article: Tardigrades (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tardigrades: 'Water bears' stuck on the moon after crash (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by 86.187.166.122 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The moon might now be home to thousands of planet Earth's most indestructible animals. 86.187.166.122 (talk) 21:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

• Comment In the unlikely event we post this, we need an actual reliable source; the one you've misleadingly labelled as "BBC" is actually Newsbeat which may technically be part of the BBC but is about as much a reliable source as a typical comic book. This story is considerably less of a story than it appears; although tardigrades do have the ability to enter cryptobiosis, they certainly won't have the ability to revive in a dry vacuum. The bacteria from Neil Armstrong's boot probably have a greater chance of lunar propagation. ‑ Iridescent 21:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not due to lack of reliable sources (e.g. CNN), but ITN-level significance not established. Cute picture, though! El_C 22:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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"That's one small stumble for Israel Aerospace Industries, one giant leap for moss piglets". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:20, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: J. Om Prakash

Article: J. Om Prakash (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing DBigXrayᗙ 16:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support - good to go.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose While well-referenced, the article has no sections and is too sparse in its coverage of the subject (the article and talk page still state that it's a stub); there is no lede/introduction; a good portion of the article consists of listing information in prose format (movies he produced and directed); and the longest paragraph currently in the article consists of just 3 sentences. Spencer^T•C 02:05, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed User:Spencer Thanks for the useful feedback, I have expanded the article since you last reviewed. May I request you to take another look if you can support this.--DBigXrayᗙ 07:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 07:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support Looks much better now. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 11:42, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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