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[[:Glossary of musical terminology]] → {{no redirect|Glossary of music terminology}} – Per [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:PRECISE]], and to be consistent with [[:Category:Wikipedia glossaries|so many other]] "Glossary of {{var|subject-noun}} terminology" lists. The terminology is not "musical" (an instrument, a talent/skill, a production might be); it is simply about music. I would, however, not move to this "Glossary of music", because this in fact about a {{em|terminology}}, i.e. a rather pre-defined and consistently applied system of terms, not random words and phrases that pertain to the subject (contrast [[Glossary of blogging]]); and because "Glossary of {{var|subject-noun}}" by itself is often confusingly ambiguous (e.g. [[Glossary of computer science]] is clear, while "Glossary of computer software" could easily imply some kind of software list or software-category list to some readers, and the article is sensibly at [[Glossary of computer software terms]]). "Music" is one such case, and "Glossary of music" would seem to mean an index of genres/styles to too many readers for us to use that. That is to say, we do not impose CONCISE as the cost of PRECISE and RECOGNIZABLE. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 11:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
[[:Glossary of musical terminology]] → {{no redirect|Glossary of music terminology}} – Per [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:PRECISE]], and to be consistent with [[:Category:Wikipedia glossaries|so many other]] "Glossary of {{var|subject-noun}} terminology" lists. The terminology is not "musical" (an instrument, a talent/skill, a production might be); it is simply about music. I would, however, not move to this "Glossary of music", because this in fact about a {{em|terminology}}, i.e. a rather pre-defined and consistently applied system of terms, not random words and phrases that pertain to the subject (contrast [[Glossary of blogging]]); and because "Glossary of {{var|subject-noun}}" by itself is often confusingly ambiguous (e.g. [[Glossary of computer science]] is clear, while "Glossary of computer software" could easily imply some kind of software list or software-category list to some readers, and the article is sensibly at [[Glossary of computer software terms]]). "Music" is one such case, and "Glossary of music" would seem to mean an index of genres/styles to too many readers for us to use that. That is to say, we do not impose CONCISE as the cost of PRECISE and RECOGNIZABLE. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 11:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why not just [[musical terminology]] or [[glossary of music]] if "concise" is the guiding principle? [[Special:Contributions/216.8.143.101|216.8.143.101]] ([[User talk:216.8.143.101|talk]]) 13:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why not just [[musical terminology]] or [[glossary of music]] if "concise" is the guiding principle? [[Special:Contributions/216.8.143.101|216.8.143.101]] ([[User talk:216.8.143.101|talk]]) 13:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Because [[WP:CONSISTENT]]; we have a convention for how to name glossaries, a specific kind of stand-alone list article. While there is some content-related variance (is it an article on a terminological system? on non-systemic jargon or slang? A more specialized kind of term-definition list?), we do start them with "Glossary of". Why not to use "Glossary of music" was already covered above in some detail; please read RM nominations before responding to them. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Because [[WP:CONSISTENT]]; we have a convention for how to name glossaries, a specific kind of stand-alone list article. While there is some content-related variance (is it an article on a terminological system? on non-systemic jargon or slang? A more specialized kind of term–definition list?), we do start them with "Glossary of". Why not to use "Glossary of music" was already covered above in some detail; please read RM nominations before responding to them. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
::{{xt|Glossary of music}} would also tie in with [[:Category:Glossaries of music]]. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 13:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::{{xt|Glossary of music}} would also tie in with [[:Category:Glossaries of music]]. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 13:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::See above. Note also that [[WP:CONSISTENT]] doesn't {{lang|la|per se}} apply as a guideline between categories and articles (only to mainspace), but that [[WP:CFD#SPEEDY]] applies an adaptation of it, to move categories to be consistent with article titles when feasible. It does not operate in the opposite direction. There is no principle by which we rename articles to better agree with category names, which are often – as in this case – more general due to the broad nature of their contents. Not all of the articles in the category are similar in type nor in title, and it might not even be feasible to make them all have exactly corresponding titles due to their content and structural dissimilarities. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::See above. Note also that [[WP:CONSISTENT]] doesn't {{lang|la|per se}} apply as a guideline between categories and articles (only to mainspace), but that [[WP:CFD#SPEEDY]] applies an adaptation of it, to move categories to be consistent with article titles when feasible. It does not operate in the opposite direction. There is no principle by which we rename articles to better agree with category names, which are often – as in this case – more general due to the broad nature of their contents. Not all of the articles in the category are similar in type nor in title, and it might not even be feasible to make them all have exactly corresponding titles due to their content and structural dissimilarities. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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Concerto

Shouldn't 'concerto' be included on the 'Glossary of musical terminology' page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.246.252.101 (talk) 02:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and it has been added. (It was a curious omission, since so many other entries already referred to the term.) As a general matter, if an entry seems obviously missing, just go find a source and add it. WP:Be bold!  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 January 2020

Glossary of musical terminologyGlossary of music terminology – Per WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE, and to be consistent with so many other "Glossary of subject-noun terminology" lists. The terminology is not "musical" (an instrument, a talent/skill, a production might be); it is simply about music. I would, however, not move to this "Glossary of music", because this in fact about a terminology, i.e. a rather pre-defined and consistently applied system of terms, not random words and phrases that pertain to the subject (contrast Glossary of blogging); and because "Glossary of subject-noun" by itself is often confusingly ambiguous (e.g. Glossary of computer science is clear, while "Glossary of computer software" could easily imply some kind of software list or software-category list to some readers, and the article is sensibly at Glossary of computer software terms). "Music" is one such case, and "Glossary of music" would seem to mean an index of genres/styles to too many readers for us to use that. That is to say, we do not impose CONCISE as the cost of PRECISE and RECOGNIZABLE.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just musical terminology oder glossary of music if "concise" is the guiding principle? 216.8.143.101 (talk) 13:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Because WP:CONSISTENT; we have a convention for how to name glossaries, a specific kind of stand-alone list article. While there is some content-related variance (is it an article on a terminological system? on non-systemic jargon or slang? A more specialized kind of term–definition list?), we do start them with "Glossary of". Why not to use "Glossary of music" was already covered above in some detail; please read RM nominations before responding to them.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Glossary of music would also tie in with Category:Glossaries of music. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
See above. Note also that WP:CONSISTENT doesn't per se apply as a guideline between categories and articles (only to mainspace), but that WP:CFD#SPEEDY applies an adaptation of it, to move categories to be consistent with article titles when feasible. It does not operate in the opposite direction. There is no principle by which we rename articles to better agree with category names, which are often – as in this case – more general due to the broad nature of their contents. Not all of the articles in the category are similar in type nor in title, and it might not even be feasible to make them all have exactly corresponding titles due to their content and structural dissimilarities.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  09:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]