Talk:Sexual selection

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Female intrasexual competition

Female intrasexual competition is a potential candidate for merging with this article (which already has a section titled "Male intrasexual competition"). That article has a list of sources, however parts of it is also human-centric which doesn't seem fitting here. —Srid^🍁 21:33, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

On second thought, this may not be a proper candidate for a merger due to being human-centric. That said however this article could make use of a 'Female intrasexual competition' section that cites reliable sources (example: [1]). —Srid^🍁 21:37, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Well yes. The human-centricity is a problem, as I said in my edit comment. Much more serious is the fact that the FIC article doesn't seem to be evolutionary biology as currently presented, so a merge would be inappropriate. The current SS article does in fact discuss the female aspect but with good secondary sources this side of the article could be expanded. The Rosvall article is a suitable review (if a bit old now) and is appropriately skeptical of some of the glossier claims. Chiswick Chap (talk) 22:00, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Given the current size of that article and that it's focused on humans, I'm not seeing that a merge is a good idea. It is worth seeing just how much the literature focuses on female intrasexual competition with regard to non-human animals. Some non-human and human material can be covered here at the Sexual selection article, and include a hatnote pointing to the Female intrasexual competition article. The title of the Female intrasexual competition article could be changed to "Human female intrasexual competition" until its expanded to include non-human animal material. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:15, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

As it stands now, the female intrasexual article has enough to stand on its own feet without the merging, I must concur. Also, that is solely about humans, while this article is about both human and non-human creatures, and we don't want to add a big block of material that will be too big for a human section when it can have its own page. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 05:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Kategorien

There has been some confusion about this article's subject area. The topic is purely biological - in fact, evolutionary biology - and has no connection to issues of gender equality and human cultural developments: we have plenty of articles on those subjects. Therefore, there is no need in this article for categories relating to purely human areas; indeed, any such categorisation or discussion of those matters is off-topic for this article in evolutionary biology. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Sexual selection by males?

Most of the content of this article seems to be working from the assumption that sexual selection only works in one direction, with females selecting for traits in males. While this is almost always the case, there seem to be a number of exceptions where it is the males doing the choosing and the female traits that are being selected for. This is hinted at in the 'Sexual dimorphism' section where it mentions the reversal of normal roles in phalaropes. The intro section is good, in that it doesn't restrict the phenomenon to female selection, but most of the rest of the article implies that it only works in this direction.

For some info about possible exceptions: https://academic.oup.com/cz/article/64/3/321/4992021

I think it might be good to include some additional information in the article indicating that it is possible for sexual selection to work on female traits.