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According to this German news articel https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/queerspiegel/gender-und-grammatik-das-pronomen-ist-frei-vom-koerper-aber-es-ist-nicht-frei-vom-geschlecht/25826376.html from 2020-05-13, Butler prefers singular they pronouns. The relevent part is in paragraph two: "Welches Pronomen bevorzuge ich? Butler lacht [...]. 'Es ist they', sagt Butler [...].", which translates to "Which pronoun do I prefer? Butler laughs [...]. 'It is they', Butler says [...]." I couldn't find an English source for this and the article also says that this is the first time Butler publicly stated this preference, so there might not be an English source. Anyway, I will change the pronoun (in accrodance with the Wikipedia rules on pronouns) and add a sentence on their pronoun preference. [[User:Spiegeleier|Spiegeleier]] ([[User talk:Spiegeleier|talk]]) 11:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC) |
According to this German news articel https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/queerspiegel/gender-und-grammatik-das-pronomen-ist-frei-vom-koerper-aber-es-ist-nicht-frei-vom-geschlecht/25826376.html from 2020-05-13, Butler prefers singular they pronouns. The relevent part is in paragraph two: "Welches Pronomen bevorzuge ich? Butler lacht [...]. 'Es ist they', sagt Butler [...].", which translates to "Which pronoun do I prefer? Butler laughs [...]. 'It is they', Butler says [...]." I couldn't find an English source for this and the article also says that this is the first time Butler publicly stated this preference, so there might not be an English source. Anyway, I will change the pronoun (in accrodance with the Wikipedia rules on pronouns) and add a sentence on their pronoun preference. [[User:Spiegeleier|Spiegeleier]] ([[User talk:Spiegeleier|talk]]) 11:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:Well, it's gibberish, but if you're going to do that, you still need at least to attempt to follow the rules of English. So where, for example, you've written 'where they have served, beginning in 1998'; you'll need to write 'where they has served, beginning in 1998' - JB may self-describe as 'they' but JB is still just one person, not multiple people. [[User:Mr Miles|Mr Miles]] ([[User talk:Mr Miles|talk]]) 18:22, 5 November 2020 (UTC) |
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Giving an Account of Oneself (2005)
In the section "Giving an Account of Oneself (2005)" the sentence "To take seriously one's opacity to oneself in ethical deliberation means then to critically interrogate the social world in which one comes to be human in the first place and which remains precisely that which one cannot know about oneself." needs to changed or attributed to Butler. It is not clear if this sentence is attributed to Butler or the author explaining an unnamed concept. The sentence in this section is superfluous, has no attribution, and lacks any citation to Butler or their work. This sentence should be removed in its present state. Rodkeys (talk) 05:15, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
European Graduate School
I like Judith Butler but I think it's important to briefly point out that the European Graduate School is unrecognized in Switzerland and essentially a degree mill, in that it literally takes people's money and pumps them out with Master's degrees after a summer course with the Who's Who of philosophers. Otherwise it looks like the European Graduate School is being used to lend authority to her, which is an indirect promotion of the school. So maybe something could be said like "at the unaccredited European Graduate School" or "at the controversial, unaccredited European Graduate School." Here's one of the EGS's professors on the EGS. Finsternish (talk) 06:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Maxine Elliot Professor what does it mean?
i've search the internet and i cannot find what this designation does. i found emeritus but not Maxine Elliot. what does putting a name like maxine elliot to a professor? made an undergrad think maxine elliot is JB actual nameMgdyason (talk) 00:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- In large/fancy academic institutions, there are professorship/leadership positions that have the name of a major donor or notable person attached to the position name. So my guess is that Maxine Elliott (perhaps this Maxine Elliott) is/was probably a large donor to the school/department. Sandtalon (talk) 05:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Singular They
According to this German news articel https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/queerspiegel/gender-und-grammatik-das-pronomen-ist-frei-vom-koerper-aber-es-ist-nicht-frei-vom-geschlecht/25826376.html from 2020-05-13, Butler prefers singular they pronouns. The relevent part is in paragraph two: "Welches Pronomen bevorzuge ich? Butler lacht [...]. 'Es ist they', sagt Butler [...].", which translates to "Which pronoun do I prefer? Butler laughs [...]. 'It is they', Butler says [...]." I couldn't find an English source for this and the article also says that this is the first time Butler publicly stated this preference, so there might not be an English source. Anyway, I will change the pronoun (in accrodance with the Wikipedia rules on pronouns) and add a sentence on their pronoun preference. Spiegeleier (talk) 11:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well, it's gibberish, but if you're going to do that, you still need at least to attempt to follow the rules of English. So where, for example, you've written 'where they have served, beginning in 1998'; you'll need to write 'where they has served, beginning in 1998' - JB may self-describe as 'they' but JB is still just one person, not multiple people. Mr Miles (talk) 18:22, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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