Talk:Confederate monuments and memorials

"Removal" vs. "Vandalism"

I submit that the "removal" section should be limited to removal by lawful authorities. Mob destruction of a monument should be categorized either as "vandalism" or given a separate category. I'm not aware of instances where a mob actually removed the monument it destroyed. John2510 (talk) 13:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

The definition of "remove" appears to include "get rid of; do away with; put an end to".[1] For example, we remove a stain from a garment but that doesn't mean we move the stain to a new place. So the word seems to cover both legally moving statues and illegally destroying them. Mobi Ditch (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• I agree with the distinction between lawful removal and vandalism. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Another simple solution would be to just say both: "removed or vandalized". For this article, it seems like the main issue is that they aren't there any more. Mobi Ditch (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Monuments and memorials of individuals associated with the CSA, but who may not merit inclusion

I recently created the page Sidney Lanier Monument and tagged it under Category:Confederate States of America monuments and memorials in Georgia. While Lanier was a private in the CSA, his connection to the CSA is much less notable than that of, say, Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson, and as such the classification of this, and other similar monuments to individuals not notably related to the CSA, is questionable at best. The lead for this article reads, "The following is a list of Confederate monuments and memorials that were established as public displays and symbols of the Confederate States of America (CSA), Confederate leaders, or Confederate soldiers of the American Civil War." [emphasis added], but I think maybe some sort of qualifier should be added to distinguish between monuments that are explicitly Confederate monuments and monuments of Confederate soldiers that have no relation to the Civil War, such as the Statue of John Stith Pemberton, which depicts a former Confederate officer, but has almost no relation to the Civil War and to nearly everyone would not be considered a Confederate monument or memorial. JJonahJackalope (talk) 17:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Renamed places, etc.?

Should we include places, roads, parks, etc. that have be renamed if they were formerly named for Confederate personages? For example, Kusilvak Census Area, Alaska was named for Wade Hampton III until 2015. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Belle Boyd

Hi-an item about Belle Boyd was removed from the Wisconsin section of this article. Belle Boyd was a Confederate spy during the American Civil War. She was on a lecture tour in the United States when she died suddenly while in Kilbourne City, Wisconsin (now Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin). There was coverage about her death and the Wisconsin Historical Society had some articles about Belle Boyd. I restored the item in the article and it is not trivia. There was coverage about her death and the gravestone being put up and dedicated. Thank You-RFD (talk) 18:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)