Talk:Atlantis
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Alan Cameron quote
The quote "It is only in modern times that people have taken the Atlantis story seriously; no one did so in antiquity" is contradicted in the previous paragraph and in the ancient reception section. How come it is still here?Halbared (talk) 13:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Denmark hypothesis
Guys, I am not anything like an expert on this subject, but thought this might deserve some mention. Some years ago, on Talk of the Nation, there was an episode in which some linguists traced the point of origination of the Indo-European language family to the vicinity of the Oder River. In the location hypotheses of Atlantis article, a summary mention is given to the Denmark solution proposed in a scholarly work. Taking what little I know of languages, "at" is an Indo-European term for "not" and equivalent, and "lant" means "land". "Atlant" could well have been a word meaning "landless", "nomad," or similar. This would be a reasonable term to describe people who had been forced from their land by the rising sea levels at the end of the Ice Age. Add an "s" ending, like the Greeks did to all male names, and you get something sounding like "Atlantis". In effect, this would seem to possibly identify "Atlantis" as the original home of the proto-Indo-Europeans. Unfortunately, I don't myself study the field enough to know if this has been put forward in RSs, but if it has I think it deserves to be mentioned. John Carter (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Cultures Claiming Relation
Can we add a blrub/comment on the Berber people of northern Morocco claiming to be descended from Atlantis? Having been there, and being a quarter berber, I'm familiar with the stories they tell, but I don't know if there's any documentation/sources concerning these stories being told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.240.162 (talk) 22:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Dating of Timaeus
Hi - not necessarily about Atlantis itself, but surely the writing of Timaeus cannot be said for sure to be 360BC? Even if so, should this not be referenced? AJCottrell (talk) 23:04, 23 December 2009 (UTC)AJCottrell
Proclus
Re your Atlantis item.
Proclus/Proklos was NOT a Christian historian, but a Pagan philosopher, a neo-Platonist. 77.250.218.217 (talk) 18:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC) Han Kloosterman.
Technologically advanced?
Weren't Atlantians technollogicaly advanced?--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 21:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- It's possible. Americans are technologically advanced compared to Haitians.Halbared (talk) 13:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Depends on who you ask. Remember that there were no real Atlanteans, they're mythical. It's a staple of recent depictions that Atlantis was a technologically advanced society; this isn't in Plato, although some features of his account may have inspired the idea of advanced technology. --Akhilleus (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't say so. Some documents say that Plato might of visited Atlantis himself.So,change of thought now?--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 23:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- What documents? given he never made such a claim himslef?Slatersteven (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Another example is from Otto Muck, an Atlantis searcher, said that the Mayans were colonists of Atlantis, and he used the Mayan calender to pinpoint the exact time of the natural disasters: around noon on June 6th, 8498 BC.--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- How could Plato have visited Atlantis, given he lived between 428/427 BC – 348/347 BC ? Just to be as a speculative "fringe" support to Maya "theory"; http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?search_string=turkey&search_type=any&ss=1 Logos5557 (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
New Modern Source for 'Further Reading' section
Shirley MacLaine's 2001 book entitled 'The Camino: A Journey of the Spirit gives a detailed account of Atlantis gleaned from vivid past-life experiences she had while on her pilgrimage on the Camino de Santiago.
I realize it's not a 'scientific' account, but we're talking about Atlantis here. Also 1.past-life experiences and 2.Shirley Maclaine's spiritual acumen are documented well enough that I think it deserves mention.
Does this fly with the rest of the wiki folk? Isoughtajam (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Not with me. Dougweller (talk) 16:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Might be a place for it in a mysticism section. But certainly not as fact.Slatersteven (talk) 23:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Atlantis in Mediterranean?
I read somewhere that sometime in the last 10,000 years the Straits of Gibraltar opened an let the ocean flow in, filling a vast valley. So, would it be possible for Atlantis to have been flooded because of that event? 69.255.136.19 (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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