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Requested move 19 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 21:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


– This is a list article specifically focused on launches, not about spaceflight in general. As a result I think the title should be changed to make its scope more clear. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 20:19, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Where are all List by Rocket family, List by Spaceport etc?

Guys, I loved checking statistics about what types of rockets are performing better, which country is leading in spaceflight etc. Now that we divided a year into two part we don't see all the information other that the schedule of flight. Lets fix it.

Thanks, Yerlan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erlan 77 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • How hard would it be to mirror the tables and graphs related to the Orbital launch statistics in this article having the graphs and stats for the first half of the year and the 'Space Launches 2021 (July-December) eventually being populated with data relative to the launches in the second half of the year? AmigaClone (talk) 19:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You would need to duplicate everything, and I don't think it's useful. The yearly statistics are easier to compare because they cover the same time range. They also have a bit less fluctuation from random scheduling events. The article already links to 2021 in spaceflight very prominently in the introduction (which is literally the only thing it has besides the lists). --mfb (talk) 02:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SpaceX Starship tests

Why aren't the test flights of SpaceX's Starship prototypes being mentioned among "Suborbital flights"? They don't go to space but nonetheless are important tests of a spacecraft. Maybe in a new section like "Spacecraft flight tests without reaching space". 212.186.15.63 (talk) 18:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be counted as a suborbital flight they have to (or intend to) cross the Karman line. See Timeline of spaceflight. There have been exceptions like for the Crew Dragon in flight escape mission. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 19:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, they would have to cross the mesopause, but as I wrote one could establish a section "Spacecraft flights without reaching space". It's a pity important tests like these aren't listed. 212.186.15.63 (talk) 07:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We have this discussion about as often as we have spaceflight-relevant flights that don't cross the Karman line (and don't intend to). I generally prefer inclusion as they are relevant to the topic. A third table would work I think. --mfb (talk) 10:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I wrote, I mentioned that we could make exceptions. I don't agree including them but since the consensus so far is to, I will support it. To be clear I said Karman line because Timeline of spaceflight (which this page is associated with) says so. Perhaps its time to amend it and add "or major tests key to spaceflight". Cheers. (but yeah sry i missed your last comment; its not the first time "this" was discussed) OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 14:18, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The timeline article explicitly allows exceptions: "Significant test flights of spaceflight systems may be listed even if they were not planned to reach space." (I added that in December). --mfb (talk) 05:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Welp. Time to add Starship SN's then. Thank mfb an IP for bringing this up. OkayKenji (talk) 05:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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