Talk:Kyriakos Mitsotakis

Selective Censorship

• @Botagozpope: Please provide proof that the following publications 1, 2, 3, 4 are slanderous and unreliable or cease attempting to selectively censor the article. In the meantime Mitsotakis' section at the Paradise Papers article remains absolutely undisputed and for a good reason.--Catlemur (talk) 09:23, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

@Catlemur: All four links you provided above state that the audit following the discovery of Mareva Mitsotakis’ offshore company among the Panama Papers list, found nothing objectionable and yet your entry fails to reflect this, leaving a shade of illegality that simply isn’t true. Please update your writeup to reflect exactly what is mentioned in the references you provided or remove the reference to Paradise Papers entirely. Botagozpope (talk) 05:00, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@Botagozpope: Grabowski is mentioned in the Paradise Papers not the Panama Papers for the exact reasons mentioned in the article. Nowhere did I say that her actions were illegal, you on the other hand have so far simply removed the entire section without providing any sort of alternative wording.--Catlemur (talk) 10:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@Catlemur: Yes, I meant to type Paradise Papers instead of Panama Papers. The reason why I removed the entire section is because it bears no relevance to Kyriakos Mitsotakis. Mareva may be his spouse, but the offshore company mentioned in the Paradise Papers leak is part of her business activities and legal in every way. She even makes reference to it in her public CV. It shouldn't be mentioned in Kyriakos Mitsotakis' wiki page along with any of her other business activities. Please remove this irrelevant section. Thank you.

• @Botagozpope: Bullshit. This affair is currently being discussed and investigated in Vouli. Since she is Mitsotakis' relative that implies that he might also be involved. Stop playing the fool please.--Catlemur (talk) 09:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

@Catlemur: About time you showed your true colours. Just admit that you are simply attempting to smear Kyriakos Mitsotakis by spreading misinformation and unsubstantiated accusations on Wikipedia. You assume that Mitsotakis might be involved in something that doesn't constitute foul play in the first place and you are attempting to implicate him only because Mareva Grabowski is his spouse. Josef Goebbels would have been proud. Now stop using the SYRIZA-funded media as your sole source of information and remove your totally unsubstantiated comment from Kyriakos Mitsotakis' page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Botagozpope (talk • contribs) 10:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

The section should be brought back.Greece666 (talk) 06:36, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Official website

Url https://nd.gr/mitsotakis-kyriakos is not an address of KM's official webpage. The specific url belongs to New Democracy party (nd.gr). Cinadon36 12:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Two recent editors of this article, Mareva Grabowski (talk · contribs) and Maria - Eva Grabowski (talk · contribs) have the same name as the subjects wife, and their user pages are almost identical.
The first has added links to User:Mareva Grabowski in the article, since deleted.
They have both declared a COI in editing the (currently non-existent) article Mareva Grabowski
However, neither has declared a COI with respect to this article, despite it being about their husband (assuming they are, who they say they are). - Arjayay (talk) 09:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Removal of COI

It seems extremely unlikely that Mareva Grabowski would post edits to her own husband's wikipedia article under her own name and there is absolutely no evidence that the user in question was her. I have therefore removed this COI tag. 215lax (talk) 04:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Disputed

The two last sub-sections in "Controversy" are highly problematic and biased. Both sectios have a large number of fallacies, unsubstantiated arguments and "fake sourcing". For instance:

• "the measures of the Mitsotakis government are 84.26% identical with a dictatorship". There is no such conclusion in the Oxford government report tracker (I already corrected the entry - a biased press release of a syndicate was used as a "source")
• "but Kyriakos Mitsotakis distanced himself from the statements of Mendoni characterizing her statement that Lignadis is a dangerous man as unfortunate". When did Mitsotakis himself make this statement? The sources used do not support the text.
• "Despite the efforts of Mitsotakis to keep a low profile during the lunch, a substantial group of local supporters and passerby gathered outside the entrance of the house, forming a large public gathering at a time when the country was at a national lockdown and social distancing measures were in place." No! There was no public gathering. The problem was the number of the persons who participated in the informal lunch at the balcony of the house. There was no gathering out of the house, and there is no source supporting that.

These are only some of the examples of the fallacies, fake news and misuse of sources in the sub-sections in question. It is clear that whoever heavily edited these texts does not care for the purposes of the encyclopedia, but only for the promotion of a certain agenda.Istoriodifis (talk) 11:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. These are some pretty egregious WP:BLP violations, and I have gone ahead and cleaned up the article. The material was added by Green Duke Italia (talk · contribs), which appears to be some kind of single purpose account with an axe to grind. Khirurg (talk) 03:36, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I fully restore the section controversies and criticism as it has been created by me and other users, the section has been corrupted by the user Khirurg (talk · contribs) obviously a cyberguard of Kyriakos Mitsotakis in Wikipedia. Green Duke Italia (talk)

Cyber-guards of Kyriakos Mitsotakis in Wikipedia

In recent days, some Wikipedia users have been systematically and professionally removing documented data about Kyriakos Mitsotakis while threatening other users who bring it back, the way they work seems professional especially today a user removed documented data for Kyriakos Mitsotakis 2 minutes after they went up, obviously they are cyber-guards and I call one of the administrators to take action against them. Threats and censorship I think have no place here, especially if they are directed.Green Duke Italia (talk)

GDI, it has been explained to you by at least three established users that your edits are in violation of the WP:BLP. As I can see by the history log and the talk page, they actually seem to be gross violations. Specific issues have been raised to you, and you have given no answers. In the meantime, you have also engaged in edit warring. Additionally, the so-called "other users who bring it back" are, actually, nothing more than a single-purpose IP (also edit-warring all day today) and you. Specific warnings and advice have been addressed to you with good faith in your talk page. Please read them carefully and abide by WP policies specifically pointed out to you. Thanks, Yannismarou (talk) 20:28, 1 June 2021 (UTC)