Talk:Antisemitism in Islam
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Rotarians and freemasons are also hated because they think that because they like casino goings, they must be Jews
... and therefore are hated this heavily thereof. Jew hate. Also, GIDAs hate Merkel not because she is a christian believer, but because she is a Jew. This is though a strange reason why a christian believer should be hated is because the christian believer in question is a Jew. --82.207.238.34 (talk) 16:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Changing lead
The lead reads "Antisemitism in Islam refers to scriptural and theological teachings in Islam against Jews and Judaism, and the treatment and persecution of Jews in the Muslim world."
Should we change this to "Antisemitism in Islam refers to theological teachings among Muslims against Jews and Judaism, and the treatment and persecution of Jews in the Muslim world." 73.73.127.102 (talk) 02:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- That lead would border on racism so I suggest we leave it as it is. AlbrechtVonWallenstein (talk) 14:53, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Misleading title
The first reaction when I read this title is "Oh Islam is by essence judeophobic". Like its a clearly defined section and part of it. Chapter 5: Be Judeophobic. It is totally wrong. I understand there are not a lot of experts in Islam in Western society but guys this is a science website. When we don't know something we ask to experts. Proven experts. (I am not an expert but apparently I know more than the initial author of the article / title about the pure theological part of this religion).
I am also very disappointed by the lack of accuracy and scope in this article that makes it extremely misleading to the point it leads people into thinking something wrong: Islam has judeophobic views.
So yes, first of all, we should say judeophobic instead of antisemitic. Because as you mentionned it semitic means something totally different.
It mixes 2 different problems:
- The relationship between Islam and Judaism (the pure theory of the religion)
- The relationship between muslims and jews (the social nature of people)
Islam as a religion has no hate against Judaism. Its only stance is that the teachings of Moses and following prophets until Jesus have been corrupted by the sons of Israel with edits and inserts of things that were not there initially. That's all. So it just says "This judaic religion is irrelevant because we lost the original content and it is crippled by lies". There is no hate in Islam against people solely because of their religion.
Now indeed there is judeophobic people who identify as muslims and use Islam as a way to justify their hatred as being legit. But the same goes for all communities. Jewish people hating muslims based on their religion... Atheist and christians, so on and so forth. There is no new info there.
So what's the point of this article anyway ? It feels totally irrelevant.
I see 3 options:
- delete it (I saw it was proposed yet rejected, I need to read the argument why I am curious to see what was useful in it)
- modify the title to speak of judeophobia in countries with a majority of muslims (and then we will need to do the same for every single religion ??? Next islamophobia in Israel, in France...)
- modify the the title to mention just the relationship of obsolescence between Islam and Judaism (sure why not, that could be interesting)
Anyway I am all ears because honestly this is a mess.
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