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Former good articleJoseph James DeAngelo was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 7, 2018Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
April 30, 2019Good article nomineeListed
June 21, 2019Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 13, 2019.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the suspected "Golden State Killer" was actually born in New York?
Current status: Delisted good article

Merger proposal

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Merge. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:05, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Visalia Ransacker here. DeAngelo pled guilty to the murder of Claude Snelling and is thus the Visalia Ransacker. There is no reason to have a separate article for one of his "personas"; if one of his personas was notable enough to have its article, it would be Original Night Stalker or East Area Rapist. Ribbet32 (talk) 22:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. The suspected crimes of the VR are extensive (120+), with nearly all lapsing due to various statutes of limitations, and unless you can find better sources to support that he has pleaded guilty to all of these crimes currently associated with that suspect, then a separate page including that uncertainty is indeed warranted. JabberJaw (talk) 23:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
He has pled guilty to the central crime of the case, the murder of Claude Snelling, and attempted abduction of his daughter. If there was more than one person involved, then the "Visalia Ransacker" as a lone offender didn't exist, and it'd just be a string of burglaries committed by numerous individuals.--RM (Be my friend) 02:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I find it very telling that after 18 days, no-one here has been able to cite any sources or WP policy whatsoever to substantiate the faulty rationale behind the recommended move of this page - e.g. a court document or similar detailing a conviction or admission of guilt for each/all of the 120+ crimes. Yes, the VR case is very very complex, and I recommend reading the entire article. Anyway, IMO every one of the inferences made here in support of it fails the most basic Wikipedia:No original research scrutiny. JabberJaw (talk) 12:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That seems a little pedantic to me. Not every single possible EAR incident is confirmed to be DeAngelo either. JJARichardson (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's bogus, as various reputable sources recognize DeAngelo was the Visalia Ransacker. [1] [2] [3] [4] None agree with your fringe POV that California needs to suspend the rule of law and retroactively abolish the statute of limitations to try DeAngelo for every single ransacking. Ribbet32 (talk) 18:32, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Given the nearly consensus expert opinion of the identity of the individual(s) responsible for the crimes (and I hate to present this as a "gotcha!") your interpretation is closer to what would be defined as original research, a fringe hypothetical that does not meet the requirements for how Wikipedia is organized. SIADmander (talk) 21:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The separate article is outdated following DeAngelo's conviction for the Snelling murder and should be merged into the greater timeline. The EAR was also connected to many "suspected" but unconfirmed incidents. JJARichardson (talk) 00:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support He's confessed to the Snelling murder which is the central crime of the Visalia Ransacker and related crimes that the statute of limitations makes them unable to charge him for. --WGFinley (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It's ridiculous to have two articles for the same person. He's pled guilty to the Snelling murder. This should have been merged after the plea, I don't understand how this is even debatable.--RM (Be my friend) 02:03, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • We know that DeAngelo was caught from being murderous, and he did a dangerous thing to everyone. Visalia Ransacker is DeAngelo, so it is true. The people and I are victorious against criminals, so my vote is: Support. Rdp060707 (talk) 06:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I agree with you. I mean, he does confirm that he's the Visalia Ransacker and that he's responsible for the murder of Claude Snelling. So, yeah, both articles should merge since his admission to all the bad things he did. Emotioness Expression (talk) 10:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The "copyright problem" is due to vandalism by an IP address. The ugly template needs to be removed ASAP. JJARichardson (talk) 14:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no copyright problem, that blog copied our wiki article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.191.199 (talk) 15:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also as the wiki markup in the vandalism shows it wasn't copied from the blog anyway, but from the corresponding wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.188.75 (talk) 15:34, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"His employment history in the 1980s is unknown"

Maybe we should look further into his employment. Emotioness Expression (talk) 09:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I second this, however we don't know where to start. Balkanite (talk) 14:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 1973-August 1976, Exeter P.D.

forensic analyst Sgt. In charge of forensic evidence locker. Under lock and key for Exeter P.D. during Donna Richmond's murder. 174.255.0.234 (talk) 06:20, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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