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Mexico

I can't find a source that Mexico has applied (but I see a lot of internet buzz). I see Mexico was deleted a few days ago for this reason, but it is back today. what is going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fogonthedowns (talk • contribs) 02:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Wrong concept

BRICS is not an international organization, cause it has no any juridical identity. BRICS, in the same way than BRIC, is just the name that a group of countries receives due the share of common characteristics.

I'm gonna correct this mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.219.44.179 (talk) 13:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I edit also the mistake about the join of South Africa to the BRIC group. It is NOT any official or formal join, cause it is not a Organization. It just can be that South Africa is being considered as part of the reality that is describeb by the BRIC concept.

BRIC is just a concept for describing a group of countries that share a set of common characteristics, not a organization, not a institution, not a formal association.

So, therefore, South Africa cannot oficially join anything that officially doesn't exist. South Africa can be invited (as it was) to a meeting celebrated by the members that participates in this definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.219.44.179 (talk) 14:09, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite obvious that you have not actually read this article or the BRIC article. BRICS is a real organisation that was founded as a response to the BRIC theory. Try doing some reading before adverising your ignorance to the world. Roger (talk) 17:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Expand the intro

The introduction section needs to be expanded with a few lines explaining what BRICS is and how it came to be established as a response to the Goldman Sachs BRIC thesis. A simple statement just saying it is an international organisation is inadequate. Roger (talk) 09:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with you, the BRIC theory has been written about in the BRIC page and sufficient mention of the page can be seen in this page, so it should not be necessary. Rishab (Talk) 13:22, 19 January 2014(UTC)

Why are we not to confuse BRICS With BRIC but can do vice versa? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.95.101 (talk) 15:27, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't throw BRICS at PIGS

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/201192292011236419.html Nor was Russia; Moscow, via Arkady Dvorkovich, President Dmitry Medvedev’s chief economic adviser, stated flat out the Europeans must come up with a clear strategy for rescuing the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland and Italy, Greece, Spain) before Moscow starts buying more eurozone bonds.

Sounds like a plan for inaction to me, but it's worth looking into after the BRICS meeting at the G20 next week. Hcobb (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

potential resource

Is Indonesia Bound for the BRICs? How Stalling Reform Could Hold Jakarta Back by Karen Brooks, November/December 2011 99.19.44.155 (talk) 14:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

The reference section is a bit of a mess, showing many links twice. I'd fix it myself but I don't really know how. nagualdesign (talk) 16:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With the possible exception of Russia

In the first paragraph it stated that "with the possible exception of Russia, the BRICS members are all developing or newly industrialized countries, but they are distinguished by their large, fast-growing economies". The source for that Russia is an exception is a link to the Russian MFA website that "Russia along with other developed countries reaffirmed the pledges to provide aid to developing countries". Grammatically, it doesn't state that Russia is not a developed country. For example, when a guy says: "me and the other guys will go to the restaurant", this doesn't mean that the speaker is not a guy. A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:39, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly – the point is that the source considers Russia to be a developed country, whereas the other BRICS countries are unquestionably developing countries. – Michaelmas1957 (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


the $100 billion fund

there isn't anything about the fund, which is probably the first material step taken by the BRICS to showcase their importance in today's world. Something should be there.. http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/10/11/g20-brics-fund-idINL6N0I13N720131011

Does it actually exist yet?
If I had a dollar for every time a BRICS government announced about a big investment, I'd have enough cash to, um, make some big investments of my own. bobrayner (talk) 14:35, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It should be created by March, according to Brazil's Finance Minister Guido Mantega...

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/10/10/us-brazil-economy-mantega-idINBRE9990WR20131010 Rishab (talk) 10:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GDP (PPP) calculations

Total of GDP(PPP) for BRICS does not equal the sum of the individual countries because the source includes more accurate numbers which are truncated in the infobox for space. The actual number from the source are (source):

Brazil 2,466.567
China 13,623.255
India 5,031.678
Russia 2,640.737
South Africa 608.804
Total 24371.041

I originally put 34371, but that was a typo. Thank you to 217.74.224.150 for catching that. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:25, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. bobrayner (talk) 12:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Statement of the Governor of the Russian Central Bank

In the Developments section, a statement of the Governor of the Russian Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, is reported in quotation marks: "BRICS partners the establishment of a system of multilateral swaps that will allow to transfer resources to one or another country, if needed"

However in the same phrase it is also quoted the conclusion of the article where this statement was extracted: "If the current trend continues, soon the dollar will be abandoned by most of the significant global economies and it will be kicked out of the global trade finance. Washington's bullying will make even former American allies choose the anti-dollar alliance instead of the existing dollar-based monetary system."

This is misleading because it leads the reader to think that the second quoted text is also part of the statement of the Governor though it is not.

--99.246.50.162 (talk) 05:34, 3 August 2014 (UTC) Luca[reply]

Criticism section

How is the statement "In 2012, Hu Jintao, who at the time was President of China, described the BRICS countries as defenders and promoters of developing countries and a force for world peace." a criticism? Shouldn't this be removed? Snow333 (talk) 14:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it doesn't sound critical, but I don't think it should be removed from the article altogether. Instead, to promote non-POV, I renamed the section to "Reception". 129.67.156.156 (talk) 14:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of 'Literacy'

It would be interesting to establish how the CIA determines the levels of literacy in the world.

To state that South Africans have a 93% literacy level is highly questionable. There may be a narrow age band of citizens who are 93% literate, but to claim 93% for the entire country is irresponsible and appears to be a thumb-suck.

197.88.26.53 (talk) 08:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)Bruce Liddell[reply]

I don't is exactly falls into the scope of this article, but it is interesting nonetheless. There might be an article about it that we can link to. Aryamanaroratalk, contribs 20:54, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Millions or Billions?

Foreign-exchange reserves of the BRICS members are presented in the table in form: $<value> bn So I understand it is in Billions of US$ => China's assets are:
3,899,285,000,000,000 US$
(or even to 3,899,285,000,000,000,000 US$, because we have the unfortunate dual short/wide scale meaning of word 'Billion', so I would NEVER use 'bn')
After checking on another wiki page I would say it is in fact
3,899,285,000,000 US$
In other words it is in Millions of US$. I know people do not usually care about actual values behind numbers like these when reading daily news, but I think it should be fixed here. I do not know how about the other columns, I was not interested in them...
In any case I propose to write units into the header row and do not to repeat them in each table column cell. Thanks.

Eltwarg (talk) 22:26, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Greece "interested" in membership?

So let's get this straight - of the links provided, one is a dead link, and one links to an article that is Russia inviting a debt-ridden Greece to join BRICS. Not only does the article not contain any text to support the assertion that Greece is "interested" in joining, as we all know Athens has since come out saying it is *not* interested in interacting with BRICS and the NDB. Can we get a consensus on removing the mention of Greece as an interested party?

Describing Temer as president of Brazil

Rather than edit war on whether Temer should be described as president of Brazil, please contribute to Talk:President of Brazil#Should we replace Dilma Roussef with Michel Temer as the incumbent president? Yaris678 (talk) 14:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

bnjnjbh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.214.117.119 (talk) 08:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

head of BRICKS development bank?

India will be the first Head of BRICKS development Bank represented by the leadership of Mr. Kamath

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Geography

Is the geography section really needed? It doesn't seem directly relevant to the article's subject. पदाति (talk) 12:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GDP and export

BRICS is collaborating to augment export and import to maximize GDP in high potential developing countries to broaden the local basket to include many quality items for household and food consumption. First world income BRICS will provide a new first world life based on daily life quality, food quality and solidarity! Central supply units will equally distribute final products to BRICS countries based on initial agricultural merit! 94.225.153.245 (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GDP PPP entry for South Africa and Averages & Precision Comments

Minor edit: GDP PPP 2023 entry for South Africa was 990,030, which is in millions. Changed to billions. See List of countries by GDP PPP.

The Average entry in all columns are different from Total / 5. The GDP PPP average, for example, would be 10,234 instead of 8,119.9. Editing these entries may require further research into the original references. I have not done it.

Also, one should be aware of the excessive number of significant digits in some entries, which impacts clarity. For example, when listing values in hundreds of billions (using billion units), one should use integer numbers @ Llsouza (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chairman instead of President.

It would be accurate to call Mr. Xi Jinping Chairman instead of president because he is the chairman of the CCP as he leads the politburo in Beijing and there are no presidential elections in China. KamiSama502 (talk) 23:09, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He actually has that title but it's means something else than what most people imagine. It's actually is a different position he hold. A better title would be general secretary since that is his highest rank and is de facto the highest rank in the country similar to all of the "Marxist-Leninist" "socialist" governments out there. In quotations since if you had ever study ML theory or economics systems then clearly they are all capitalists. Mathsquare (talk) 03:11, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My edit of adding an map to show applicants and countries which has express their interest needs to look nicer

I made the map due to me wanting to visualize it and I am good with knowing where countries are and so it was easy for me especially since I already know how to us AI and inkscape but I am not sure how to marge it properly or the colors to really use. I just use blue since that was already in use. Perhaps it needs to be merged with the previous map but that is for current members only. Not sure to do. Mathsquare (talk) 03:08, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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