Talk:Garry's Mod

Sandbox S&Box

I think Sandbox should have its own article, as the small paragraph on this page does no do it justice 162.255.201.201 (talk) 19:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

There isn't enough information in secondary sources for it to be notable yet. IceWelder [✉] 19:09, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge of 2022 Garry's Mod hacking incident into Garry's Mod

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Consensus was to merge. Redirected by Sergecross73 & merge completed by Elijahandskip. Elijahandskip (talk) 14:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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Not sufficiently notable for a standalone page. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

No. KingGhostIV (talk) 03:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support: This shouldn't be a stand-alone article, but since a speedy deletion request originally failed, it is clear the information might be notable enough for Wikipedia, so a merge would be appropriate. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:04, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
• The mischaracterization of the event as a "hack" aside, this was just one frustrated developer and who bricked his own addons. Barely noteworthy to include here, not at all for a separate article. Should be a speedy close as merge. IceWelder [✉] 09:19, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support Fails WP:EVENT, a mod creator sabotaging their mods would generally be too niche for a standalone article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:54, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

  no 86.16.249.173 (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

  Badgering each person who wants to get rid of the article with a contextless "no" will not advance your argument. It's not a vote, responses are weighed based on their merits. Sergecross73 msg me 20:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

IceWelder, I tried to literally find everything I could, and I legit thought it was a hack (I was very stupid) KingGhostIV (talk) 01:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support - even disregarding the fact that it's written like a transcript of a rambling YouTuber gushing about internet culture rather than an encyclopedia entry, there's just no need to split this out to its own article. A sentence or two at the parent article is more than enough. Sergecross73 msg me 20:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

No other hacking incidents have been mentioned on Garry's Mod. I think Garry's Mod should include more notable incidents before incuding this relatively minor incident. Owen250708 (talk) 07:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Such as? IceWelder [✉] 07:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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Notability of "Glue Library incident"

I don't think this incident is relevant or noteworthy to include in this article. Garry's Mod has fundamentally always been vulnerable to "attacks" like the "Glue Library incident" and this incident in particular was in no way influential to the game as a whole. It was not the first of its kind and it definitely isn't going to be the last either given the nature of how easy it is to update mods on the Steam Workshop, which are automatically updated every time the game is launched.

An example of a significantly more influential and notable incident was the "cough virus" incident, which also received attention from PCGamer.com and actually influenced the future of the game as a whole. Additionally, the cough virus actually had the potential to cause serious damage to the computers and servers it was running on, as it was exploiting an RCE vulnerability and therefore could run native code.

I think the "Glue Library incident" has been sensationalised by the younger portion of the community due to its "creepy" nature; there are plenty of YouTube videos dramatizing it. There's no need for this article to follow suit.

In my opinion I do not think "hacking" incidents such as the "Glue Library incident" or even the "cough virus" mentioned above are relevant for this article. Trolling incidents are a fundamental part of games with user generated content, so maybe this particular incident would have a better place in a more general article about user generated content or trolling. Additionally, as far as I am aware there have been no widespread security incidents in Garry's Mod on the scale of the "cough virus" that have caused any serious damage to personal computers or servers, which I feel would make it relevant enough to include in the article. So considering that nothing of this kind has been mentioned elsewhere in the article, including a section on the "Glue Library incident" really does not seem to fit.

Additionally, I see no reason for the 2022 Garry's Mod hacking incident redirect to exist either. It implies that there was only one notable "hacking" incident in Garry's Mod in 2022, and the incident in question was not even a "hacking" incident to begin with. 2A01:4B00:BC01:B100:B967:8F18:F8D5:3414 (talk) 14:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree with both the content and redirect arguments; on the former due to WP:UNDUE and the latter because the title is severely misleading. However, when I had previously launched a discussion on the redirect, it resulted in the redirect being kept. Note sure about the cough virus' notability; if its only this one short news piece, it would be less than Glue Library got, and the article says it was patched within an hour. IceWelder [✉] 15:46, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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