User talk:The Banner
Vandal complex 1 airport disruption
In general, the common thing between the IPs is this: Removes links to other Greek airports even when referenced. Removes maintenance templates (source requests) from Thessaloniki Airport and from links to this airport. Also removes random links from other Greek airports. Has the opinion that suspended routes to Russian airports are cut. Recently the IPs went into removing suspended destinations from other airlines as if they were already cut.
See also: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1110#46.17x_airport_article_disruption
Incarnation 1: 46
Tools
Blocked
- 46.177.193.213 -- 17 September 2023 -- 60 hour, disruptive editing
- 46.176.64.0/19 -- 21 September 2023 -- Range blocked for one year
Incarnation 2: 79.166
Tools
Blocked
- 79.166.199.229 -- 2 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 79.166.223.18 -- 14 October 2023 -- 1 month -- disruptive editing, likely LTA
- 79.166.207.247 -- 19 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
Incarnation 3: 5.55
Tools
Blocked
- 5.55.241.52 -- 1 October 2023 -- 48 hours -- block evasion
- 5.55.181.143 -- 5 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 5.55.128.0/17 -- 18 October 2023 -- 1 week -- IP-hopping airport disruption
- 5.55.188.2 -- 30 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 5.55.227.171 -- 5 November 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 5.55.240.0/20 -- 7 November 2023 -- 1 year -- airport vandal
- 5.55.0.0/16 blocked for a year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Incarnation 4: 89.210
Blocked
- 89.210.176.141 -- 3 October 2023 -- 3 days -- block evasion
- 89.210.210.193 -- reported, not blocked despite clear vandalism and block evasion.
- 89.210.194.160 -- 8 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 89.210.135.124 -- 9 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 89.210.200.216 -- 11 October 2023 -- 72 hours - block evasion
- 89.210.153.138 -- 13 October 2023 -- 3 months - disruptive editing, likely LTA
- 89.210.201.133
- 89.210.192.0/20 -- 14 October 2023 -- 6 months -- Long-term disruptive editing on airport articles
- 89.210.164.28 -- 15 October 2023 -- 72 hours - block evasion
- 89.210.216.104
- 89.210.128.0/17 -- 23 October 2023 -- 6 months -- Long-term disruptive editing on airport articles
Incarnation 5: 141.255
Tools
Blocked
- 141.255.50.104 -- 30 September 2023 -- 1 day -- block evasion
- 141.255.32.164 -- 28 October 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 141.255.32.0/19 -- 2 November 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 141.255.42.159 -- 28 November 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 141.255.36.244 -- 4 December 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 141.255.51.70 -- 14 December 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
Incarnation 6: 77.69
Tools
Blocked
- 77.69.75.138 -- 29 September 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 77.69.78.191 -- 30 September 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
- 77.69.66.31 -- 21 October 2023 -- 72 hours -- block evasion
- 77.69.64.0/20 -- 16 December 2023 -- 1 month -- range block
Incarnation 7: 78.87
Tools
- 78.87.160.0/19 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
- Blocked six months. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- 78.87.160.0/19 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
Blocked
- XB12345 -- 4 Augustus 2022 -- perm block -- Disruptive editing; failure to communicate, e.g., respond to all the warnings on their Talk page
- 78.87.186.2 -- 19 September 2023 -- 7 days -- disruptive editing, possible block evasion of 46.177.193.213
- 78.87.167.153 -- 23 September 2023 -- 14 days -- disruptive editing, block evasion of user:XB12345
- 78.87.182.87 -- 7 October 2023 -- 1 week -- block evasion
Incarnation 8: 2A02:587
Tools
- Inactive 09:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Incarnation 9: 79.103
Tools
Incarnation 10: 62.74
Tools
- 62.74.26.214
How to report
* {{Vandal|...}} Block evasion and vandalism. Exactly the same edits as other IPs in other IP-ranges in this complex. In general, the common thing between the IPs in this complex is this: ''Removes links to other Greek airports even when referenced. Removes maintenance templates (source requests) from [[Thessaloniki Airport]] and from links to this airport. Also removes random links from other Greek airports. Has the opinion that suspended routes to Russian airports are cut. Recently the IPs went into removing suspended destinations from other airlines as if they were already cut.'' See also: [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1110#46.17x airport article disruption]]. Block evasion of the blocked user "XB12345" (perm block) and the ranges 46.176.64.0/19 (blocked 21 September for 1 year), 5.55.240.0/20 (blocked 7 November 2023 for one year), 78.87.160.0/19 (blocked 7 November 2023 for 6 months) and 89.210.192.0/20 (blocked 14 October for 6 months). See an overview of the IP-complex at [[User_talk:The Banner#Vandal complex airport disruption]]. ~~~~
Target articles
Since 1 October 2023:
- 12x
- Santorini (Thira) International Airport -- moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (79.166), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (141.255), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (141.255), removing Olympic Air, adding unsourced claims (141.255), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, adding unsourced start date (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (78.87), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (141.255), unsourced changes from year round to seasonal (77.69)
- 11x
- Stockholm Arlanda Airport -- removed airline, removing destinations & source requests (89.210), removing destinations & source requests (89.210), removing destinations & source requests (89.210), removed airline, removing destinations & source requests (79.166), removed airline, removing destinations & source requests (5.55), removed airline, removing destinations & source requests (141.255), removed SkyUp as if suspended flight is cut, removing destinations & source requests (5.55), removed multiple airlines as if suspended flight is cut, removing destinations & source requests (5.55), removed multiple airlines as if suspended flight is cut, removing destinations & source requests (141.255), removed multiple airlines as if suspended flight is cut, removing destinations & source requests (141.255), removed multiple airlines as if suspended flight is cut, removing destinations & source requests (77.69)
- 10x
- Heraklion International Airport -- removing random destinations, adding unsourced end date (89.210), removing random destinations, adding unsourced end date (5.55), removing random destinations, adding unsourced end dates and start dates, removing HiSky (79.166), removing random destinations, adding unsourced new destination (77.69), removing destinations Aegean Airlines, adding unsourced destination, removing HiSky (89.210), removing random destinations, removing HiSky (141.255), removing random destinations, removing HiSky (5.55), removing random destinations, removing HiSky (141.255), removing random destinations, removing HiSky (5.55), unsourced change from seasonal to year round (141.255), removing random destinations, adding unsourced start date, removing HiSky (141.255)
- Mykonos Airport -- moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (79.166), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (141.255), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing multiple airlines, moving sources from Norwegian Air Shuttle to another airline, added unsourced start date (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air (78.87), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, removing Olympic Air, adding unsourced start date (141.255)
- Rhodes International Airport -- removing destination Tui Airways (5.55), removing source and destination from Tui Airways, adding Tui-source to Transavia (78.87), removing random destinations, removing source and destination from Tui Airways, adding Tui-source to Transavia (5.55), removing random destinations, removing source and destination from Tui Airways, adding Tui-source to Transavia (79.166), removing source and destination from Tui Airways (77.69), adding unsourced destinations, removing source and destination from Tui Airways (89.210), adding unsourced destinations, removing references, adding airline not flying on Rhodes (141.255), removing sources destination, adding unsourced destinations, adding unsourced start date (5.55), removing sourced destination, removing random destinations, moving year-round destination to seasonal (141.255), removing and then readding destination (141.255)
- 9x
- Oslo Airport, Gardermoen -- removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines (5.55), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines (89.210), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines (89.210), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines (5.55), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines (141.255), removing Nordwind Airlines as if the suspended flights are cut, removal of source request, removing destination (5.55), removing multiple airlines, removing suspended destinations as if cut, removing sourced destinations, removing random destinations (5.55), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines, moving sources to different airline (5.55), removing source request, removing destination, removing multiple airlines, moving sources to different airline, removing multiple airlines (77.69)
- 8x
- Chania International Airport -- removing source request, removing sources, adding unsourced claims (89.210), removing source request, removing destination, removing airlines, removing sources (89.210), removing source request, removing sources (141.255), removing source request, removing sources, removing destinations (78.87), removing destinations, removing sources (5.55), removing source request, removing sources, removing destinations (141.255), removing destination (141.255), removing source request, removing sources, removing destinations (141.255)
- Karpathos Island National Airport -- removing Finnair (89.210), removing Finnair (5.55), removing Finnair (89.210), removing Finnair (89.210), removing Finnair (89.210), removing Finnair (141.255), removing Finnair (5.55), removing Finnair (5.55)
- Munich Airport -- removing destinations and sources (89.210), removing destinations (79.166), removing destinations and sources (141.255), removing suspended destinations as if cut, removing random destinations (5.55), removing suspended destinations as if cut, removing random destinations (5.55), adding unsourced destination and start date (141.255), moving source from one destination to another one, adding unsourced destination (141.255), removing suspended destinations as if cut, removing random destinations (77.69)
- New Paros Airport -- moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (89.210), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (79.166), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, adding unsourced start date (141.255), adding unsourced start date (5.55), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines (78.87), moving destinations from Olympic Air to Aegean Airlines, adding unsourced start date (141.255)
- 7x
- Athens International Airport -- removing destinations Aegean Airlines (89.210), adding unsourced destination (78.87), removing suspended destinations as if they were cut, unsourced addition of airline, removal of multiple airlines (79.166), removing suspended destinations as if they were cut, unsourced addition of airline, removal of multiple airlines (141.255), removing suspended destinations as if they were cut, unsourced addition of airline, removal of multiple airlines (5.55), adding unsourced destination (141.255), adding unsourced destination (141.255)
- Ikaria Island National Airport -- removing Aegean Airlines (78.87), removing Aegean Airlines (78.87), removing Aegean Airlines (141.255), removing Aegean Airlines (5.55), removing Aegean Airlines (5.55), removing Aegean Airlines (141.255), removing Aegean Airlines (77.69)
- 6x
- Kavala International Airport - removing random destinations, removing source requests (79.166), unexplained removal of destination Condor (79.103), unexplained removal of destination Condor(79.103), unexplained removal of destination Condor (62.74), removing random destinations, removing destinations with source requests (141.255), removing Finnair, removing destinations with source requests (77.69)
- 5x
- Katowice Airport -- adding unsourced end date Wizz Air (79.166), adding fake end date Wizz Air (89.210), adding fake end date Wizz Air (77.69), removal of destination Wizz Air (141.255), random removal of destinations (5.55)
- Thessaloniki Airport -- removal Airseven and Tus Airways, removal destinations (141.255), removal Airseven and Tus Airways, removal destinations (141.255), removal Airseven and Tus Airways, removal destinations (78.87), removal Airseven and Tus Airways, removal destinations (78.87), removal of start date, removal of destinations with source requests (5.55)
- 4x
- Dortmund Airport -- adding unsourced end date (89.210), adding unsourced end date (77.69), adding unsourced end date and then removing destination as being ended (141.255), removing destination (5.55), removing destination with source request (5.55)
- Helsinki Airport -- removing destinations Sunglass Airlines (89.210), removing destinations Sunglass Airlines, adding unsourced end date, making NyxAir flights seasonal without source (89.210), removing destination of Tui Airways (89.210)
- Leipzig/Halle Airport -- removing Pegasus Airways, moving source to a different airline (5.55), removing multiple airlines (89.210), removing multiple airlines (79.166), removing multiple airlines (141.255)
- Stuttgart Airport -- removing destination (89.210), removing destination (89.210), unsourced move from destination from year round to seasonal (5.55), removing destination (141.255)
- 3x
- Ben Gurion Airport -- removing airlines with suspended flights, removing suspended flights, moving sources to another airline, random removal of destinations (89.210), removing airlines with suspended flights, removing suspended flights, moving sources to another airline, random removal of destinations (141.255), removing multiple airline, moving sources to different airlines than intended, removing suspended destinations as if cut (5.55)
- Berlin Brandenburg Airport -- removing random destination Sundair (5.55), removing random destination Sundair (78.87), removing random destination, removing random destination Sundair (77.69)
- Bratislava Airport -- adding unsourced destination (89.210), adding unsourced destinations and airline (141.255), adding unsourced destinations and airline, random removal of destination (141.255)
- Corfu International Airport -- removing source request (5.55), removing destination with source request (141.255)
- Eindhoven Airport -- removing destination way before end date (77.69), unsourced change destination from seasonal to year round (5.55), unsourced change destination from seasonal to year round, removing random destinations (77.69)
- Kos International Airport - removing Sunclass Airlines and moving source to another airline (5.55), removing random destination, removing Sunclass Airlines and moving source to another airline (141.255), removing random destination, removing Sunclass Airlines and moving source to another airline (141.255)
- Leoš Janáček Airport Ostrava -- removing Aegean Airlines (141.255), removing Aegean Airlines (141.255), removing Aegean Airlines (141.255)
- Lyon–Saint-Exupéry Airport - removing sources and making seasonal/charters year-round destinations (89.210), moving year-round destinations to seasonal and the other way round (141.255), removing sourced destinations (141.255)
- Kalamata International Airport -- removal of Neos airline (141.255), removal of Neos airline (141.255), removal of Neos airline (141.255)
- Ljubljana Airport -- removing airline, removing sourced information (89.210), removing airline, removing sourced information (141.255), adding unsourced start date, removing airline, removing sourced information (77.69)
- Sofia Airport -- removing Windrose Airlines, moving source to a different airline (5.55), removing suspended destination as if it is cut (89.210), removing suspended destination as if it is cut, moving source to a different airline (5.55)
- 2x
- Angads Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (78.87), random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Burgas Airport -- removal of destinations with source requests, removal of destinations and airlines with source requests (5.55), removal of destinations and airlines with source requests (5.55)
- Charles de Gaulle Airport -- removal of suspended destinations as if cut (5.55), removal of random destination (5.55)
- Cologne Bonn Airport -- removing destinations Freebird (5.55), removing destinations Freebird (141.255)
- Djerba–Zarzis International Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (78.87), random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Enfidha–Hammamet International Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (78.87), random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Josep Tarradellas Barcelona–El Prat Airport -- removing airline, moving source to a different airline (89.210), removed destination with source request (5.55)
- Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden Airport -- removing destinations and sources Enter Air (89.210), removing destinations and sources Enter Air (78.87)
- Kraków John Paul II International Airport -- removing random destinations, removing suspended destinations as if cut (5.55), removing random destinat5ion (141.255)
- Lemnos International Airport -- removing destinations Aegean Airlines (89.210), adding unsourced destination (141.255)
- Leonardo da Vinci–Fiumicino Airport -- removing airlines (89.210), removing suspended flights (89.210)
- Nantes Atlantique Airport -- removing destinations Transavia (89.210), removing destinations Transavia (89.210)
- Perugia San Francesco d'Assisi – Umbria International Airport -- adding unsourced end date (78.87), adding unsourced end date (78.87)
- Poznań–Ławica Airport -- adding unsourced destination (141.255), adding unsourced destination and start date(141.255)
- Tangier Ibn Battouta Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (78.87), random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Timișoara Traian Vuia International Airport -- removing destination (79.166), removing destination {141.255)
- Tunis–Carthage International Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (78.87), random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- 1x
- Billund Airport -- removing destination Sunglass Airlines (89.210)
- Bremen Airport -- removing airline and adding source to another airline (89.210)
- Brindisi Airport -- removing airline and adding source to another airline (141.255)
- Brno–Tuřany Airport -- unsourced addition of destination Smartwings (5.55)
- Dresden Airport -- removing Tailwind Airlines (78.87)
- Genoa Cristoforo Colombo Airport -- adding unsourced end date (78.87)
- Göteborg Landvetter Airport -- removing destination Sunglass Airlines (89.210)
- Houari Boumediene Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Hurghada International Airport -- removing Finnair and adding source to other airline (77.69)
- Kaunas Airport -- removing random destination (77.69)
- Larnaca International Airport -- removing destination Tus Airways (89.210)
- Lille Airport -- removing random destination (77.69)
- Luton Airport -- removing random destination (77.69)
- Malmö Airport -- removing destination Sunglass Airlines (89.210)
- Mytilene International Airport -- random removal of destination (5.55)
- Nador International Airport -- random removal destination Tui Fly Belgium (5.55)
- Örebro Airport -- removing destinations Jttime (77.69)
- Orio al Serio International Airport -- removing airline (5.55)
- Patras Araxos Airport - removing a destination (79.166)
- Pisa International Airport -- removing SilverAir (correct) but moving the source to another airline (5.55)
- Podgorica Airport -- removing sourced destination (89.210)
- Rotterdam The Hague Airport -- removing destination (78.87)
- Savonlinna Airport -- removing airline, adding unsourced end date (89.210)
- Skiathos International Airport - removing Smartwings (5.55)
- Stavanger Airport -- removing destination Sunglass Airlines (89.210)
- Tbilisi International Airport -- unsourced changes from seasonal to year round and vice-versa (77.69)
- Trondheim Airport -- removing destination Sunglass Airlines (89.210)
- Václav Havel Airport Prague -- removing destination Smartwings (5.55)
- Zvartnots International Airport -- adding unsourced destination (77.69)
Vandal incarnations of airport disruption
Incarnation 1: 2A00:23EE. Does not like British airlines
Tools
- 2A00:23EE:1790:3C63:7CF2:8493:A7DE:7D23
- Targets
- Glasgow Airport -- adding end date with fake source
- Bristol Airport -- random removals of destinations, removal of sourced information
- Melbourne Airport -- removal of sourced information of Bamboo Airways
- Frankfurt Airport -- removal of sources, adding unsourced end dates to Bamboo Airways
- Bamboo Airways -- removal of destination with fake end date
Incarnation 1a: 2A00:23C8. London-based?
Tools
- 2A00:23C8:9C02:3601:416A:D0F3:32D7:55DF
- Targets (since 1/12/2023)
- Air Malta -- removing sourced information (2A00:23C8:9C02:3601)
- Alghero–Fertilia Airport -- removes valid destination (2A00:23C8:9C02:3601)
- Birmingham Airport --removal of sources (2a00:23c8:9c02:3601)
- Budapest Ferenc Liszt International Airport -- unsourced addition of destination, unsourced addition of end dates, unsourced addition of end dates, removal of sources (2a00:23c8:9c02)
- Burgas Airport -- removes valid destination (2A00:23C8:9C02:3601)
- Debrecen International Airport -- unsourced addition of destination and start date (2a00:23c8:9c02)
- Gdańsk Lech Wałęsa Airport -- removes valid destination (2A00:23C8:9C02:3601)
- Glasgow Airport -- adding a false claim (2a00:23c8:9c02:3601)
- Wizz Air -- removing sourced information (2A00:23C8:9C02:3601)
Incarnation 2: 86.30. Likes unsourced information
Incarnation 3: 79.101. Likely Serbian
Tools
Incarnation 4: 81.200 Likely German or Austrian
Tools
Incarnation 5: 86.30.110.239 The Glasgow games
Tools
Incarnation 6: 125.165.105.30 Asian
Tools
- 125.165.105.30
- User:Dennislyh????
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Oops
Hi! I can see you are on some horrible complex anti-vandal thing ... aaargh, well done and good luck to you! I just wanted to alert you to the fact that this edit also removed two legitimate edits from an editor who is not a vandal and whom I really love and respect as a true Wikipedia intellectual and terribly nice bloke, good egg, craggily handsome, kind to old people, small dogs etc etc ... er, me. I promise my fussy little edits were not vandalism! Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- And I apologize if I have messed up your Talk page layout! I just clicked "+" and hoped for the best! :) DBaK (talk) 10:26, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- If they love dogs, they can not be a good person. Only cat lovers are.
The Banner talk 10:49, 17 December 2023 (UTC) And yes, I did find a litter on my couch. Two have left now but the last one cornered me and forced me on gunpoint to adopt her. I did not stand a chance...
- I did say small dogs ... do they not get an allowance for that? It's like a cuteness-boost. And well done with the adoption! :) DBaK (talk) 12:27, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- If they love dogs, they can not be a good person. Only cat lovers are.
Steaua
So lets discuss here, how is that article separated from history section and why it has short description of "football club", which is wrong; You cant avoid as more users are notified as well as more languages covering same topic. 93.143.52.223 (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I am aware of your POV and canvassing. The Banner talk 20:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCSB
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSA_Steaua_Bucure%C8%99ti_(football)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_FC_Steaua_Bucure%C8%99ti — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:01, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have reported you for block evasion. The Banner talk 11:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Still you cant reply why 3 links dont prove there is no "fc steaua"... such shame 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw not evasion if dynamic ip is provided, prove. 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- It is block evasion, as you use a new IP to circumvent the IP blocked last night. The Banner talk 11:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Better lock this as always will have ways until provide reply on third fc steaua source. What will you do when its redirected?! 😁 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- You better accept that all mentioned entities are notable, just because of the row and the sourcing provided. Going on with edit warring, POV-pushing and personal attacks will not help at all, contrary. The Banner talk 11:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- It is block evasion, as you use a new IP to circumvent the IP blocked last night. The Banner talk 11:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw not evasion if dynamic ip is provided, prove. 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Still you cant reply why 3 links dont prove there is no "fc steaua"... such shame 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Ok please give one source, why page has no infobox/logo/league if team exists...thats all and simple quest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.89.189 (talk) 11:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- No, sorry. You claim that some entities do not exist, so per WP:ONUS it is up to you to prove that they never existed. The Banner talk 12:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
personal attacks
Hi Banner,
I know we have got off on the wrong foot on the talkpage of Black and Tans, but could you try to take some heat out of your comments? There are several places on the talkpage where you are straying into the territory of personal attacks. I know you feel frustrated that I do not feel that your opinion on the sources is valid according to our policies, but if you look at my edits you will see a consistent effort to compromise and achieve a consensus without RfC. An RfC will just burn up both our own and everybody else's time.
Anyway, sorry that some of my own posts there came over as excessively confrontational, I hope we can go forward in a more relaxed vein.
All the best Boynamedsue (talk) 19:50, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have requested several books from the library. Sources should be able to solve the dispute, conform WP:V. But yes, your legalese approach did turn the heat on. Just as your refusal to take my concerns serious. The Banner talk 21:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Merger discussion for FC Steaua București
An article that you have been involved in editing—FC Steaua București—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Dublin Airport new EI destinations
I see you reverted my edit to Dublin Airport because the source I cited wasn't "independent". I don't know how you can argue that an airline's website isn't a reliable source on a new route they are launching. News sites or other independent sources are much more likely to get the details wrong (they're getting the information from the airline's press relase anyway). It would be different for example, in the case of a company reporting on corporate strategy or public relations. They would of course not be impartial and therefore not a very reliable source. But this is just a new route launching - simple factual information. Secondary sources are less reliable in this case and likely to get details wrong. Let's have some common sense here. This is completely counterproductive. VG31 19:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)