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On 5 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Edward IV. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Unhelpful statement

The article currently states Edward "remains the only king in English history since 1066 in active possession of his throne who failed to secure the safe succession of his son." It's not literally true, and there are too many caveats that you would need to add to this statement to make it helpful. Anna (talk) 14:14, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Error incorrectly describing Edward's actions pre-Towton

It may seem like a minor nit-pick, but the article claims Edward was 'crowned' in London before moving on to Towton to confront Anjou's force. This is not true, Edward was appointed King, but was not crowned such until after Towton. It is actually a moderatly important detail that ought to be remedied. Spudkinned (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, vox populi, vox dei etc. SN54129 15:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image

Which image should be used in the infobox?

A (current)
B
C
D (needs cropping)

Each have their merits. A is high resolution and was painted c. 60 years after Edward's death. B was painted alongside the painting used as Richard III's lead image, and is near-contemporary, but low-resolution. C is a copy, and is high-resolution. D is contemporary, and consistent with Edward V's lead image. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer C, because there is more definition to the face: there are areas of light and shade which shape the face whereas A and D are basic line drawings. C is more in scale whereas A and B have a large head on a small body, which is probably not life-like. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above. 2601:743:203:A100:FCFF:770F:E5BB:C797 (talk) 01:32, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Elizabeth I listed as his daughter?

This appears to be a protected emtry, so I can’t just jump in and delete the foolish line. 76.119.2.225 (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She's not. That's a different Queen Elizabeth. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It would be much less confusing if the infobox listed her under the article title as Elizabeth of York. Deb (talk) 11:11, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The way she's been listed is consistent with how the other queens consort have been listed on their parents' info boxes. Keivan.f^Talk 11:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't make it right. Deb (talk) 12:07, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that making it less confusing for the unwary should override strict consistency or uniformity in this matter. Mrmedley (talk) 13:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Edward I of England which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 17:46, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]