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March 1

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Wikipedia categories named after schools in Bangladesh

Nominator's rationale: All contain only an eponymous article and alumni category. All alumni categories are in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Alumni by secondary school in Bangladesh. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Archelaus I of Macedon

Nominator's rationale: The main article has been moved to Archelaus of Macedon following a technical request, Special:Permalink/1207061825 with the following rationale: Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator: There is no Archelaus II (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Archelaus_II_of_Macedon), consequently the regnal number for this page is unnecessary. Also, the majority of modern historians do not assign a number to Archelaus. – robertsky (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: it's likely that the distinction is one used by modern historians, not ancient ones. However, even if only a minority of scholars use "Archelaus I" and "Archelaus II", or the distinction is made only occasionally, due to "Archelaus II" being better known as "Aeropus II", the distinction is useful when context is unavailable—as it is for the titles of categories, which necessarily can't indicate which of two kings called "Archelaus" are intended, or whether both are included. If you have to visit the category or its contents in order to find that out, then perhaps the title isn't clear enough. So the current names may be preferable. It may be worth revisiting the move of "Archelaus I" to "Archelaus", but that's a separate discussion. P Aculeius (talk) 13:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename as nominated for now. The categories can always be renamed again, but given nobody has formally objected to the rename of the article this seems like a fairly clear C2D case. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:22, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Egyptian cricketers

Nominator's rationale: This category doesn't make any sense! It is a nationality category, yet none of those populating this category were Egyptian. They are all British officials who happened to play for a scratch team representative of Egypt. So can we keep the category as a team category? Not really, as we don't categorise teams who played minor matches (the Egyptian team played no first-class matches). So it makes little sense to keep this category, as it is misleading. AA (talk) 14:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Syrian Turkmens

Nominator's rationale: The previous nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 13#Category:Syrian Turkmen appears flawed to me. The individual biographies should be moved down into the existing set category subcat Syrian Turkmen people. The topic category should be renamed back to match the main article Syrian Turkmen, which already uses that term as a plural without adding "s", for Syrians of Turkish origin. IIUC, "Turk-men" is already a plural, referring to people of Turkish origin, whereas "Turkmens" are people from Central Asia. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pinging previous participants Place Clichy, Omnis Scientia, HouseBlaster. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support nom. If this is the best way to categorize this group of people then I have no objection. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: closely related article Iraqi Turkmen is a lot more detailed on how the term Turkmen/Turkoman/Turcoman came to describe this group in Iraq and Syria, instead of just Turk. That article does use the plural Turkmens, although inconsistently. Note that the etymology comes from the transcription of an Arabic suffix, and not from English man/men as in e.g. Norseman/Norsemen. Neither article suggests that Turkman is the singular. The associated category is Category:Iraqi Turkmens. Article Turkmen Mountain consistently uses Turkmen for the singular and Turkmens for the plural. I agree with moving biographies though, which I did as it does not require CfD. There are plenty of articles about ethnic groups which use the singular or the adjective as a title, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here. Place Clichy (talk) 00:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Place Clichy's explanation is very plausible. Other European languages preserve "men" in their translation of Turkmenistan while men is not the plural of man in those languages. I suppose in English "men" in Turkmenistan is also unrelated to the plural of man. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Educational institutions in Koyra Upazila

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. A dual merge is not needed since both pages are in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Schools in Khulna District. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Artificial neural networks

Nominator's rationale: Artificial neural network has been moved to Neural network (machine learning), so the category should move to match. Also, if I'm not mistaken the title should be singular since this is articles related to the concept of neural networks and not articles about specific neural networks. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Neural circuits

Nominator's rationale: The pages related to computational and biological neural networks have recently been rearranged to clarify the terminology. The articles now use "neural network" and "neural circuit" to mean two different things, and there is now a page for Neural network (biology). Since this category is a subcategory of "Neural network" and contains pages like Cultured neuronal network and Large-scale brain network, it seems logical that its main article should be Neural network (biology) and not Neural circuit. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Female political office-holders

Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency. By far most subcategories in this tree use "women" but there are also still a few using "female", especially in the top of the tree. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion in which merging in opposite direction was successfully opposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional prison escapees

Nominator's rationale: There's too much overlap between fugitives and prison escapees. While prison escapees was the older category, I'm not sure it matters where they escaped from, just that they're a fugitive. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 14:14, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Iraqi coppersmiths

Nominator's rationale: Because these categories are so small, I suggest renaming coppersmiths to the parent category (Iraqi metalsmiths) and merging. Mason (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tolkien fandom

Nominator's rationale: No clear scope. A mix of biographical and non-biographical articles against WP:COPSEP, along with a few WP:SHAREDNAME articles, some fanfiction, some WP:OCASSOC, etc, really not sure what is going on here. Doesn't seem to be WP:DEFINING. WP:TNT. --woodensuperman 10:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Burmese Rakhine people

Nominator's rationale: rename, Rakhine people are naturally living in Myanmar so adding Burmese is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Quantum Leap

Nominator's rationale: The category is used for both TV series. Gonnym (talk) 08:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-Zionism in South Korea

Nominator's rationale: Currently empty, but it's because I removed the only two pages that were in it. Neither page had anything in the body to support the idea that they're actively anti-zionist. toobigtokale (talk) 08:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People of Karen descent

Nominator's rationale: merge, only one or two articles in each of these categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Karen refugees

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Thai people of Karen descent

Nominator's rationale: rename, for the subjects of these articles it is not just that their ancestors were Karen, rather they are Karen people themselves. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Burmese Chin people

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer since all Chin people are from Myanmar. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - not strictly correct rationale, there can theoretically be pages about an Indian Chin or an American Chin person but none currently exist/ those can be subcategories later. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 14:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chin Leaders

Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category, "Chin leader" is not a defining characteristic of it (it concerns a Baptist minister), and the article is already in Category:Burmese Chin people. If kept, rename to Category:Chin leaders. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - agreed with the vague definition of a "leader" per nom. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 14:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:South Korean female idols

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT & WP:OVERLAPCAT. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 04:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:L'Osservatore Romano

Nominator's rationale: There is no need to have a category for only one single article. Veverve (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As of relisting, the contents are L'Osservatore Romano and Category:L'Osservatore Romano editors‎ (which itself has three members).
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Indian superhero films by decade

Nominator's rationale: Extremely redundant, as the categories 1980 superhero films, 1990s superhero films, 2000s superhero films and 2010s superhero films and Indian superhero films exist. We don't have similar categories for American superhero films, even though there have been countless since Iron Man 2 (2010). Kailash29792 (talk) 04:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:17th-century Japanese botanists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 03:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Japanese bands

Nominator's rationale: Redundant with Category:Japanese musical groups. Xfansd (talk) 02:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Xfansd! I am the one who created the category "Japanese Bands". I did try to search for "Japanese Musical Groups", but I believe I typed it wrong and couldn't find it, that's why I created "Japanese Bands". Knowing now that "Japanese Musical Groups", I do believe that "Japanese Bands" should be deleted. I apologize. Macacaosapao (talk) 03:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rhodesian diarists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of Inca royalty descent

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection, as far as I'm aware, we don't have other categories at the intersection of royal decent and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish people of Mapuche descent

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 01:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mapuche farmers

Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. There's only one redirect in here, and it's already in the potential merge targets. Category:21st-century farmers Category:21st-century Mapuche people. Mason (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mapuche police officers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a small category of one redirect, which isn't very helpful for navigation. They're already in Category:21st-century_Mapuche_people Mason (talk) 00:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Topical history overviews

Nominator's rationale: What makes something a topical overview? This category doesn't have clear boundaries. Relevant recent CFD: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_February_22#Category:History_of_computing_topical_overviews Mason (talk) 00:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American people by populated place

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag all of the subcategories as described above.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting twice in a row so that the automated tagging will work (it tags for the current UTC date, and it is a royal pain in the rear to do previous days). This discussion has only been truly relisted once.
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Support alter merge per Aiden Mason (talk) 00:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]