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Mangled paragraph
The following revision from 2016 appears to have mangled two paragraphs in the game discussion, resulting in a nonsense sentence.
Revision: (cur | prev) 00:22, 4 January 2016 2601:602:c102:31f0:b8e8:af8b:215:9b11 (talk) . . (11,254 bytes) (-1,021) . . (undo)
Nonsense sentence: "New York responded with a drive in which a 30 yard run ball to Newman who then passed it back to Strong for a touchdown. "
Diff the 4 Jan 2016 edit against the previous revision, and you see a much better description of the game action. I suggest reverting the edit in question, which does not appear to provide any value. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.5.48 (talk) 05:15, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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- This was withdrawn. Dicklyon (talk) 14:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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- 1933 NFL Championship Game → 1933 NFL championship game
- 1934 NFL Championship Game → 1934 NFL championship game
- 1935 NFL Championship Game → 1935 NFL championship game
- 1936 NFL Championship Game → 1936 NFL championship game
- 1937 NFL Championship Game → 1937 NFL championship game
- 1938 NFL Championship Game → 1938 NFL championship game
- 1939 NFL Championship Game → 1939 NFL championship game
- 1940 NFL Championship Game → 1940 NFL championship game
- 1941 NFL Championship Game → 1941 NFL championship game
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- 1943 NFL Championship Game → 1943 NFL championship game
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- 1954 NFL Championship Game → 1954 NFL championship game
- 1955 NFL Championship Game → 1955 NFL championship game
- 1956 NFL Championship Game → 1956 NFL championship game
- 1957 NFL Championship Game → 1957 NFL championship game
- 1958 NFL Championship Game → 1958 NFL championship game
- 1959 NFL Championship Game → 1959 NFL championship game
- 1960 NFL Championship Game → 1960 NFL championship game
- 1961 NFL Championship Game → 1961 NFL championship game
- 1962 NFL Championship Game → 1962 NFL championship game
- 1963 NFL Championship Game → 1963 NFL championship game
- 1964 NFL Championship Game → 1964 NFL championship game
- 1965 NFL Championship Game → 1965 NFL championship game
- 1966 NFL Championship Game → 1966 NFL championship game
- 1967 NFL Championship Game → 1967 NFL championship game
- 1968 NFL Championship Game → 1968 NFL championship game
- 1969 NFL Championship Game → 1969 NFL championship game
- List of NFL Championship Game broadcasters → List of NFL championship game broadcasters
– NFL championship game is not a proper name, quite often lowercase in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 05:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Some data – Books n-grams show less than half capitalization, not the "consistently capitalized" that MOS:CAPS specifies. Dicklyon (talk) 05:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment no opinion on the facts yet, but I did want to note that the more appropriate wording from MOS:CAPS is found in MOS:SPORTSCAPS and says
Specific competition titles and events (or series thereof) are capitalized if they are usually capitalized in independent sources
. Note the difference between this wording and theconsistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources
(emphasis from source) wording quoted in the nomination....usually capitalized
seems to be a lower bar to clear than the nominator's rationale. Withholding my opinion for now to hear the discussion from my Wikipedia colleagues. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)- What would be rationales for a lower bar for sports? We should consider WP:5P5:
—Bagumba (talk) 03:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)The principles and spirit matter more than literal wording, and sometimes improving Wikipedia requires making exceptions.
- What would be rationales for a lower bar for sports? We should consider WP:5P5:
- Comment - I've notified WP:NFL of this RM. GoodDay (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Clear proper noun, even if un-creatively named so it's difficult to distinguish from a mere descriptive phrase. You know how one makes such a distinction? Capitalization of proper nouns. oknazevad (talk) 12:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per MOS:SPORTCAPS. Clear and obvious proper name if you do the research and don't always focus on ngrams which fail to tell the whole story. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Hey man im Josh. Blatantly obvious that this is a proper noun. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Dicklyon's decapitalization agenda. O.N.R. (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support—is it boosterism that motivates those who want to cling to overcapping? Sorry, but this is a no-brainer in modern English: all of the important styleguides in the US and the UK say to minimise unnecessary caps. In what way are the caps "necessary"? It really is a stretch to call it a proper name, and considerable numbers of reliable sources out there are keeping up to date by not capping. Tony (talk) 06:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose — concurring with Hey man im Josh and also on a quick search, the NFL's official site appears to prefer the capitalized "Championship Game" for these games. To me, "colloquial usage is mixed capitalized/lowercase and the governing entity prefers capitalized" strongly says that Wikipedia should prefer capitalized. Krinn DNZ (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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