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White Zinfandel

• I noticed that the White Zinfandel article was changed to a Low importance and I feel that it was an inappropriate change. Just to elaborate on my reasoning, based on sales volume the wine has given profits to wineries that have been able to produce other great "connoisseur" wines. It is still the highest volume sold wine in America and that states much for its importance to the industry. Many may not enjoy it's flavor, but that doesn't make it unimportant, thats just POV. In addition White Zinfandel has been produced in California since the grape was introduced in the 19th century, commercially it is a new product but that doesn't make it a new wine or any less important. I just wanted to get a consensus before I changed the article back to what I feel should be High importance.--Christopher Tanner, CCC 05:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)tanner-christopher

While I personally think it is a dreadful wine, it is none the less a very popular one in the US and the history of the style plays a large role California Zinfandel production. I can see an argument for "high importance" but at the very least it should be mid. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 10:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I've switched it to Mid, as the Zinfandel grape is of much more importance than a "style" of wine made from the grape. Thanks for the input and for the others who did so on the article. --Christopher Tanner, CCC 13:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)tanner-christopher

FWIW I'd say it fails the 'international relevance' test for a High importance, and as you say it definitely deserves to be at least one step below Zinfandel itself.FlagSteward 14:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

User:AlexNewArtBot

This bot searches works with the Wikipedia:New articles by topic page to categorize New pages listings. Currently there is no wine category. Would there be any value in setting one up? I really can't estimate how many new wine pages crop up on a given day but at the very least I can see a benefit in ensuring that it is tagged and assess by the project. Any other thoughts? Agne^Cheese/^Wine 10:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't see why not FlagSteward 14:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Domaine de la Romanée-Conti merge

As part of my attempts to try and sort out some of the High priority Stubs, I've proposed the merger of Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, Romanée Conti and La Tache - I don't think there's enough to be said about the two vineyards that doesn't also belong in the winery article. I've left open the subject of the name - my preference would be Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, but I wonder if the average Wikipedian might not expect to see Romanée Conti. See Talk:Domaine_de_la_Romanée-Conti FlagSteward 12:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC) I'll go ahead with this as noone's objected FlagSteward 14:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, we seem to be having some objections. I've upgraded the DRC article a bit to give a better idea of the direction it could be going in, would anyone else care to comment on the Romanée Conti and La Tache articles as merger candidates with Domaine de la Romanée-Conti. For me it's a no-brainer, so I'm surprised at the opposition. FlagSteward 01:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

The Miszabot thing seems to work pretty well, might I suggest that the archive frequency is extended to 8-9 days, to allow people who only say come here at weekends to see what's happened during the week? FlagSteward 14:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I would personally like to see it moved back up to 7 days. The project does get a flurry of activity from time to time but the talk page doesn't get that overwhelming with an extra 2 days. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Wine on the Front Page!

Thanks to the Bethling for nominating Chaptalization for a DYK which is now on the Main Page. The increase traffic on a wine related article is always a plus for the project. I know when Charles Heidsieck was on the front page, a flurry of edits happened which greatly improved the article and helped to eventually get it to GA. Hopefully the same will happen to Chaptalization. I encourage all wine project members to be mindful of DYK's especially when we create a new article or substantially improve a stub. If you are shy about nominating yourself, put a mention on this project page and another a wine project member will take a look and see if there is a nice "hook" for nominating. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

To Do list

How does the To Do list work? It feels like it could do with some updating - for instance, Expand links to the stub list, but some of the articles there had got up to B status. I didn't want to tread on any toes by removing them completely, but I thought it more appropriate to move eg Rioja to the 'To GA' list. Does Expand include Stubs and Starts, or just Stubs? Is there scope for an 'Improve' list of Starts and leave Expand to cover only Stubs? Should the lists of Expand/to GA/to FA only feature Top Priority articles at this stage?

I think we should certainly add "Discussion of the grape article template" as an urgent matter, as once we've got that nailed that will allow us to really go stub hunting on the grape varieties - there doesn't seem much point in starting that until we've got a template that everyone's happy with. I guess going 'live' with Template:Infobox_grape_variety would also be part of that process. FlagSteward 13:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• In regards to the "To-do" list, don't fret about treading on anyone toes. Feel free to boldly update it whenever you feel like it.Agne^Cheese/^Wine 11:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• OK, the To-Do list now has all the Top articles in the appropriate sections, plus the more pressing High stubs. I've also taken the liberty of bunging all the Top Start articles into WID nomination, as there's some real biggies in there like Chardonnay, which gives useful perspective on some of the existing nominations. FlagSteward 11:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)