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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 142.26.194.190 (talk) at 15:46, 19 November 2010 (→‎Cast List). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Add Cecil and Garland?

They can be seen in the magazine scan. Faythoffenrir (talk) 10:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cecil and Gralnd been put under new characters. They are not new. I suggest either not including them or making a new table for recurring/continued characters. - The Spellweaver 17:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cast

The seiyuu, and VAs, for Dissidia 012 should be expected.

  • Garland: Kenji Utsumi (Jp), Christopher Sabat (Eng)
  • Cecil: Shizuma Hodoshima (Jp), Yuri Lowenthal (Eng)
  • Kain: Kōichi Yamadera (Jp), Liam O'Brien (Eng)
  • Lightning: Maaya Sakamoto (Jp), Ali Hillis (Eng)
  • Cosmos: Sumi Shimamoto(Jp), Kathleen McInerney (Eng)
  • Chaos: Norio Wakamoto (Jp), Keith David (Eng)72.184.129.252 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Apparently JD Cullum confirmed Kuja's return, saying that he's finished voice work for Duodecim. Yellow Mage (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warrior of Light

Enough for confirmation? http://blog.jp.square-enix.com/tgs10/2010/09/13153955.html --84.250.23.231 (talk) 05:53, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

unfortunately, i didn't find anything about warrior of light mentioned, but merely mentions to look forward to tokyo game show 2010, and that is a sample image, anyways i think we should wait until then.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, you do see his helmet on the teaser site though :P It'd be strange for S-E to not include him considering Garland and Cecil are staying too xD --84.250.23.231 (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's in the game and (spoiler), apparently betrays the Warriors of Cosmos, but doesn't quite join Chaos's side. 142.26.194.190 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Original Cast

One of the referenced pages on the wiki article (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/15/flying_get/) says everyone from the original cast returns. --84.250.23.231 (talk) 09:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tifa Lockhart

There have been accounts that Tifa Lockhart of Final Fantasy VII will be making (or has already made) an appearance at the Tokyo Game Show, as shown here. Of course, given the nature of the ambiguous nature of the source, maybe we should wait for a more reliable source before adding anything. --User:Immblueversion (talk) 19:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Several places and sites including Famitsu have said she's seen in the trailer that was not openly visible (i.e., the one on Youtube) --84.250.61.217 (talk) 19:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cast List

There used to be a list of new playable characters similar to the one in the Dissidia Final Fantasy article. Where'd it go? 207.216.200.81 (talk) 04:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:GAMECRUFT. The guideline states that cast lists as a separate section are discouraged in game articles. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You guys have a lot of work ahead of you getting rid of them, then, 'cause a lot of the game articles, especially for the crossover games like Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds, have playable character lists. 207.216.200.81 (talk) 01:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would consider restoring the playable character table as well. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wait... first you say they're "gamecruft" and then you say you want the DDFF character table back? I'm confused. Do you want it back or not, 'cause if you do, then go ahead and add it back in. I'm all for it. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 15:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Naming

Dissidia duodecim title

it seems like the knaji shows "Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy". so shouldn't we put that as the main title? the current one sounds really off.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The official English title is given as DISSIDIA 012 [duodecim] FINAL FANTASY, without any hyphens or colons designating Final Fantasy as a subtitle. For that matter, the official English title for the original is also DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY, with no colon. Wikipedia policy dictates that you can't use stylized text for the titles of articles, however. Dissidia 012 duodecim Final Fantasy is probably a fair rendering until an official English localization is announced.
As for the furigana (pronunciation), which is simply "Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy", that's less important than the actual written title. See Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, which is pronounced "Kingdom Hearts Three-Five-Eight Days Over Two". WtW-Suzaku (talk) 08:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well the title goes more like Dissidia [duodecim]012: Final Fantasy. as for colon. it will depend on english reviews whether it should or not. i personally think it should stayed with colons. just look at Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus. though the dashes look really inappropriate.Bread Ninja (talk) 09:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Check Square's official websites and press releases. Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus are officially "CRISIS CORE -FINAL FANTASY VII-" and "DIRGE of CERBERUS -FINAL FANTASY VII-" in English, whereas Dissidia is officially "DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY". Colons are used instead of hyphens for subtitles on wikipedia due to manual of style, however Dissidia Final Fantasy has no subtitle.

The official ordering of the title when on a single line will be revealed soon via press release, but so far I've seen it mostly as "DISSIDIA 012 [duodecim] FINAL FANTASY" on Japanese sites. It makes more sense that way, as the [duodecim] is clearly a pronunciation guide for the 012. WtW-Suzaku (talk) 10:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's still in the tile....for now, we should keep it to "Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy". and make sure no one moves the page.Bread Ninja (talk) 19:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And with the new official site, "DISSIDIA 012 FINAL FANTASY" is indeed confirmed. [1] WtW-Suzaku (talk) 20:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Should the page be Dissidia 012: Final Fantasy? Given that its predecessor is Dissidia: Final Fantasy.KiasuKiasiMan 03:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leave it alone for now. Until we the englsih game releases and adds the colon then we can add the colons if a number of courses use it.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Implied NA release?

Juding by the tweet from Rachael Leigh Cook, can we assume that NA is looking at a release as well? Zero Serenity (talk) 21:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We don't add implications, until it is confirmed then we can add it. Plus twitter should'nt even be used as a source. it's more of an external link but for her twitter page, i dont think it suits itBread Ninja (talk) 21:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now we have one: http://kotaku.com/5643944/square-enix-confirms-horrible-game-name-for-north-america -Zero Serenity (talk) 17:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then we can add it in.Bread Ninja (talk) 20:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


3rd Costumes Only Available Under Certain Circumstances

The only third costumes that were mentioned were an Aya costume for Lightning, and Cloud's Kingdom Hearts outfit. Both of which can only be obtained if you have The 3rd Birthday for the Aya suit and Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Final Mix for Cloud's KH costume. Source: http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/15/dissidia-duodecim-final-fantasy-due-in-spring-other-psp-games-unlock-aya-and-cloud-costumes/ 207.216.208.68 (talk) 03:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice find, but this doens't confirm much, only that their additioanl costumes, not the 3rd costume option.Bread Ninja (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Additional Material section only has info for Cloud's DLC costume, but not Lightning's. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prequel or Sequel?

The trailer kinda makes it ambiguous wherether Dissidia 012 is a prequel or sequel to the original game, with the Emperor saying that none of the warriors remember any of the prior conflicts between Cosmos and Chaos. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 20:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although technically a prequel, taking place in the 12th battle (first one being the 13th). an interviewer has called it a sequel. until further information changes, then we will change it to prequel.Bread Ninja (talk) 20:42, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't what the problem is. All prequels are sequels, but not all sequels are prequels. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 82#Second opinion on "prequels". Megata Sanshiro (talk) 09:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
that one is not as direct as the one in here. plus I was in it, so no need to remind me, that argument was never settled correctly. the main focus are the games while everything else complimenting it, although the anime released a couple weeks before the games, the anime was a series just like the games and was airing conccurrent with the video games, which still can be justified as a prequel.As of now the word "prequel" hasn't been used yet, and information can change.Bread Ninja (talk) 16:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"...revealing what occurred before the events of its prequel"? Any so-called sequel that reveals the events prior to the original story is a prequel. Dissidia 012 is the prequel to Dissidia. Just pointing out that the statement kinda contradicts itself. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 21:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. The original Dissidia is not a prequel. "Prequel" is a portmanteau of "previous" and "sequel". Fixed now. -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 19:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like i said, information can change. for now we odn't even know if that will be the main focus.Bread Ninja (talk) 21:19, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it reveals previous information, Dissidia 012 in no way has to be a prequel. It could simply happen after the first game and the characters find out about what happened before. I say we just go by what it has been officially declared, which is so far nothing.72.199.100.223 (talk) 08:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

that is basically what i'm saying. though announced as a sequel, we should keep it as is, until further information specifically state it as a prequel.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Information?

Check it out? Is this stuff we can use to update the article? http://kotaku.com/5674749/lots-of-new-looks-at-dissidia-012[duodecim]/gallery/ 142.26.194.190 (talk) 21:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vaan?

When and where was Vaan confirmed? There's no info on kotaku or any of the official wbsites, so take it down for now. 207.216.200.81 (talk) 02:56, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

All right. This addition of unsourced material is really getting out of hand. Just so everyone is clear, if you can not provide a reliable, published source about new characters (such as Vaan, Wakka, etc.), any addition these characters will be deemed as original research. Thank you for your cooperation. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 12:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might aswell rever everything that they've done to the point where it appeared most lively. it looks like this because of vandalism.Bread Ninja (talk) 18:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't there references when there was a table of new characters?Tintor2 (talk) 20:13, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think so. If there was, we should source them so this situation will not happen again. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I check, the old references were from the site Siliconera and I don't think it's reliable.Tintor2 (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thats odd because, i used siliconera a couple times as a source....Well maybe it can be put in the project discussion page. But either way, there has been alot of vandalism, and i mentioned it in the past.Bread Ninja (talk) 20:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vaan has been confirmed. Link: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/216/vaanddff.jpg. Although I don't know where we can source it to since I found the link of the Final Fantasy Wiki. 207.216.200.81 (talk) 22:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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