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Ancient Egypt Files

Jeff,

I am a middle school social studies teacher. I just want to thank you for the wonderful work you've done. You have made my job much easier and dramatically improved what I can present to students. -- comment added by Sedris

Images

Hi Jeff,

I'd like to publish 6 of your pix in a children's educational book - how do you feel about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Picres (talk • contribs) 08:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, you can use the images. Good luck. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 14:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Imagemap template

Hi Jeff, sorry for the delay in reply. Thanks for the good view of the imagemap and I note that you have spotted the problem with getting an enlarged picture. Many people still click on the main picture despite the tooltip advice not to. I think many are not aware that there is a button to the right of the caption that allows you to access the full size image. I have modified the template to give more advice and I am thinking of how to make it operate more as people expect without tooltip advice but it is tricky Victuallers (talk) 21:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting, in all my time on WP I never noticed that little button before. Actually, it makes me wonder why the developers put it in, since it takes up room in every caption but normally it would seem to add no value. Like you say, it needs some thought. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 01:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Jeff, Thanks for creating the figure of the gram negative cell wall. I've put it in a lab writeup (duly attributed) for my biochemistry lab students.--Christopher King (talk) 15:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear it was useful. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 17:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Your vector graphics.

Hello Mr. Dahl,

I was enjoying seeing your images of Ancient Egyptian dieties...since I am Egyptian myself I was wondering if I could use your images on some projects? Only I don't know how to get the images off the site and know nothing of vector graphics.

Are your images available for general use...I thought they were, butwant to double check with you. And if they are, how do I download your library of Egyptian dieties?

Please get back to me at your earliest convenience.

Kindest Regards, Abdallac (talk) 12:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like the images. They are free to use, just cite the source. To download an image, right click on it and copy the image or save to your computer. There's no way to download the whole collection at once, but they are all listed on my user page. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Using one of your images

Hi Jeff, I was hoping that I might be able to use your photograph of the Edwin Smith papyrus in a book I'm about to publish. Is this okay? In particular though I was wondering if you took the image yourself? Could you possibly email me at thom.van.dooren (at) gmail.com. Thanks for your wonderful collection of images and other resources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.128.23.182 (talk) 01:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian god images

They're very popular. I really like them because it's often very difficult to get a decent photo of the god you want to illustrate. I just noticed, though, that the images of goddesses show them with was-scepters just like the male gods. According to Wilkinson's Complete Gods and Goddesses, most female deities carried staffs shaped like papyrus stalks; he mentions that Hathor "was one of the few goddesses to be depicted carrying the was sceptre" (p. 144). I know nothing about drawing SVGs and don't have time to learn at the moment. If you have the time before I do, could you correct the goddess images (except Hathor's) to show papyrus staffs? You can see examples in this reproduction of a relief of Isis, and these statues of Sekhmet. Thank you. A. Parrot (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, unfortunately; I looked through Wilkinson and did a Google search, but didn't find any genuinely Egyptian color images. I just assumed the staff was green, but the Egyptians could color papyrus a lot of different ways, and green was only one of the more common options. Green is the real color of all papyrus plants I've seen in pictures, in the Cyperus papyrus article and elsewhere. One Egyptological book describes the staff as "a young papyrus plant", and the green plants pictured in the article are mostly short (and therefore young). So green is still my best guess.
While looking for examples, I looked at Wilkinson's entries on the different goddesses. The goddesses that are mentioned or shown carrying was scepters are Hathor, Neith, Satis (Satet), and Serket, and the ones listed or depicted with papyrus staffs are Amaunet, Anukis (Anuket), Isis, Mut, Bastet, Sekhmet, Tefnut, and Weret-Hekau. I think there was some fluidity as to which goddess could be depicted with which staff, because when searching the Internet I found images of Hathor with a papyrus staff, and of Isis and possibly Maat with was scepters. Still, it's best to adhere to the sources as closely as possible. A. Parrot (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Next time I go to the library I think I can get a good black-and-white source image. I'm thinking there must be some "rule" as to when a goddess was depicted with one or the other scepter, even if that rule is very obscure or unusual. From what I have seen, the tomb and temple scenes are never random and everything seems to have some purpose. Some of the more scholarly books even explain these subtle details of the scenes, so the information is probably out there somewhere. Once I get the source image from the library, drawing it and updating the images should be an easy fix. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 19:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment of Anaerobic digestion

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"New" Method of transporting Obelisks

Dear Jeff,

I have just edited the Ancient Egyptian Technology article.

The changes reflect my Dad's applications (and patents)of the physics of particulates (the ones you can make a pile out of, not air or water-borne). Your comments/revisions are needed to make this an effective part of the whole article.

To see You Tube videos of these "particular" applications, you can go to my site that sells the school workbook activities teaching these principles (I do not wish to commit a self-interested crime here, but it is more efficient than just putting "spryem" in for a search at You Tube). To get to the site, just plug in "particularconcepts.com" in your search engine (NOT the ".org" site!).

If you do the You Tube "spryem" route, the "Particular" Engine is the most appropriate in regards to my edit, although the "Particular" Turning Tower shows how you get an Obelisk from horizontal on the ramp, to a vertical position (without too much stress on the brittle granite). The "Particular" Wall is the most dramatic, but serves only to explain how you can support a ramp or turning tower with a retaining wall system.

I figure if this article covers kites with pulleys (the latter I am pretty sure the Ancient Egyptians did not have), my addition would be just as welcome? My readily given apologies if I have done anything to offend in either the changes, or in referring to my Dad's new technology, or in mentioning that there is a workbook for sale. If you can modify my changes or information to not offend, I would greatly appreciate it (as well as the court artist now referred to in the article, who I think has gotten a bum rap for a couple thousand years).

Best Regards.

Elsie Spry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spryem (talk • contribs) 15:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elsi, I'm not Jeff but I'm afraid I've removed your edit. You haven't offended, you are simply one of many new editors who don't quite get how Wikipedia works. Basically we are an encyclopedia based on what reliable and verifiable sources have to say about a subject. We have our own meaning for these terms, so you need to read WP:RS and WP:Verify. We report a wide range of views but they must be 'significant', basically they must be discussed in 'reliable sources'. See WP:NPOV. Until your dad's ideas are discussed, I'm afraid they don't belong here. Jeff may have something to add to this. I'll put a useful menu of links on your talk page. Dougweller (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Dougweller, that's a great reply. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Image logo Net Neutrality

Hey Jeff. An image you vectorized about 2 years ago is under scrutiny for removal. I don't believe is right for an image that has been on an article for over 2 years to be suddenly removed. (And also given the fact that the editor that removed it has been antagonizing me for a period of time already) Especially when the community has accepted it for this length of time. Please voice your opinion here Thanks. --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't know anything about the net neutrality movement, I just vectorized the logo. The debate seems to be over whether the logo should be in the template. I don't have an opinion on that. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 12:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Thoth graphic

Hi Jeff.
I really admire the effort you put into making all of those Egyptian vector graphics, so thanks for your toils. I've remixed a picture of Thoth for use as part of a resource site I'm putting together for some fellow students, and credited you, bottom right. I just thought it would be best to tell you.
I hope you don't think my logo is a butchery of your great work! Thanks,
--SteGriff (talk) 21:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty neat Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hapy/Sm3 'Union of North and South'

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your drawings. Can you tell me did you have an original for the Hapy/Sm3 - is it the Rameses Luxor temple? Regards. Apepch7 (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. It is from the side of the base of one of the big statues out front of the Luxor Temple. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 16:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Software

Dear Jeff,

Phenomenal graphics, congratulations! Which software did you use to make them?

-Jane —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.46.220 (talk) 15:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like them. They are all done in Inkscape, which is a free vector editing software. It totally revolutionized the way I work with drawings. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 16:24, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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RosettaStoneAsPartOfOriginalStele.jpg

Hello there:

I just wanted to say "thank you" for your efforts in creating the vector images of various gods and goddesses of Ancient Egypt. I ended up using several in the reconstruction I put together of the original stele that the Rosetta Stone was originally part of. You can see the image on Wikimedia Commons at: [1] if interested.

I also have a question for you: I used Adobe Illustrator to do the work, and when I tried exporting the image to SVG, I got an error message from WMC saying that the MIME type did not match the file, with the result that it was not uploaded. In the end I exported it as a JPG instead, but would still prefer to upload an exported vector graphic. Any suggestions?

Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 13:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saw that you worked in Inkscape, and tried exporting the image through that instead. I did some additional tweaks and everything looked fine in Inkscape, but the end result uploaded to Wikimedia Commons is less than perfect (see: [2]). Any chance you can lend some help in this area? Captmondo (talk) 16:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


OK, I think I see the problem. Nice work by the way, and glad to see my drawings are getting used! It looks like the slashes in the drawing, to indicate lost or defaced text, are entered as text characters. This means that when they are rendered by various browsers or other software programs, the default fonts/sizes may be used instead of the font you have on your computer. This behavior would have the advantage of lower file size and normally might not be a problem, but the disadvantage in your case is that you don't get reproducible output. Converting the text to paths would probably solve this problem but the file may be very big. Let me take a look at a few things. Also, when saving between illustrator and inkscape I have had a few problems like you mention. One thing that helps is to save as plain SVG. Also, cleaning the defs in inkscape may help. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 16:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the file size should not be a problem if the text is converted to paths, so that would be the way to go. A few other things that could improve the drawing: The wings at the top is a bitmap image with a white rather than transparent background. Since you have illustrator I assume you have photoshop; the white bg is easily removed in photoshop by selecting the white pixels and erasing, leaving the black lines with transparent bg. I originally drew the Egyptian god images in color quite a while ago, when I didn't know as much about vector drawing as I do now, so converting them to line drawings is somewhat problematic. I created the image at right by changing the fill colors to white and black strokes, but that can't be applied to all of the image elements because in some cases it is the strokes which create a fill color. And even then, the image isn't transparent. I would like to have good line drawings with transparent bg but I think I might have to do a lot of tweaking. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 18:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tips! I am currently busy at the moment defending the Rosetta Stone FA nomination, but when the dust settles I'd like to properly fix the SVG in the way you suggest. Will let you know of any progress I make. Cheers, and thanks again! Captmondo (talk) 01:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any interest in peer reviewing the Rosetta Stone article?

Hello there:

Another user and I have been working extensively on the Rosetta Stone article. It has undergone extensive revisions in the past month and I am looking for potential reviewers who can ensure that it will be able to pass Feature Article review. Since you have been active in the past on articles having to do with Ancient Egypt, I thought I should call on you to give it a once over.

Hope you can help. Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 01:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jeff, and CaptMondo... I did my first work on Egy. hieroglyphs with the Rosetta Stone, before I moved to the Amarna Letters, (I'm the one who did the Amarna letters cats: authors, cities, and officials categories,...made the Articles, and at the end googled all the photos to add to articles, with an Ext Link to see some of the real deals-(had to identify one on Google-the backside of Hannathon-difficult..the only word I saw on the back side (though in pristine condition)-was Ha na t n-(about half the line of cuneiform characters))).
When I did the Rosetta Stone, I did (2) half-lines for lines 1-14, sychronizing the Hieroglyphs, with the Greek translation(made 28 pages)-(I learned the text corpus stuff from that).... so I got kinda intimate with the details, like the putting of the rebels: "on stakes" (the Wood /stick hieroglyph- Branch (hieroglyph)...(Examine the gold (hieroglyph)-its nice, or the last I did: the Cross-ndj (hieroglyph)) and you know in commons, if you want to be AMAZED, or astounded, check on the replacement for the "incense pot" with the two Photos in commons that show the METEOR (one uses the stair-single (hieroglyph) the other is a stele-(click to the HIGH RES-its amazing the Meteor is at the foot of the Ibis bird, where the incense pot is) of immense import...by a 'chief of the artisans'..)... anyhow, I'll look at the articles latest-(R. Stone), and may also give you both comments... (And I worked on Canopus, Egypt and the Decree of Canopus... (so... I'm....).. I'm trying to say hello to you Jeff.. my buddy at work (about 3 years ago) ...saw the DIVING flag-(on your User Page), when he looked over my shoulders, so I know how talented, and multi-interested you are !...)-(and I hope you've seen List of Egyptian hieroglyphs by common name: M-Z-(or A-L, thanks to using 'our' Spanish cohort's knowledge, applied)... (from HOT desert Arizona-SonoranDesert).. (so both of you fellows, enjoy)..Mmcannis (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

are you backish?

You seem back, may I prevail upon you when you have time?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not fully back but have a little time to check things out. Did you have a project in mind? I should probably stick to working on purely free images though. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Four, in descending order of importance and doability for you, and we appreciate all you can do!

purely free image

  • female start, bad hair
    female start, bad hair

We don't need all the badges and numbers, just the shirt/pants/hat and a female version.

If you have time, we need:

Please leave the uniform parts a neutral white so we can color them as the need calls

Also, please don't give them Polish naming. "File:WikiProject Scouting Girl Guide.svg" and so on is better.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anything special, uniform specific, about how the pants/shirts should look? Otherwise I'll do a similar plain white versions with generic looking long sleeve/pant of these and they can be put together paper-doll style. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 01:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo! Nothing specific as they change color patterns, badge patterns and so on by country.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

just because this oldie might pique your interest

--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Finity symbol

Hey Jeff, Would it be possible to make an svg from the spiral at Horus' hat (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Horus_standing.svg ) The image would be used as the main "finity symbol", ie the antagonist of the "infinity symbol (lemniscate)", already made and available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity Thanks in advance, KVDP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.227.62 (talk) 07:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Ancient Egyptian Vector Art

Hi Mr Dahl,

Firstly I would like to thank you for your wonderfully detailed Ancient Egyptian images, they are a joy to view.

Secondly I would like to use your images for my personal non-profit website as well as on printed t-shirts etc. The tshirts etc are not for my profit but include a $2.00 donation to the Sunshine Charity in Luxor (for disadvantaged luxor children).

I can provide you with further proof and details of my intentions should you wish it.

Once again thanks for your images, they really are great and i've learned so much in the course of reading wikipedia.

Yozz3r Yozz3r (talk) 14:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Egyptian Vector Art

Sorry posted twice.

I understand you are busy, but I would be grateful for a reply as I am nearly ready to go live. This request is genuine and I will provide necessary proof if your require.

Regards and keep up the good work :)

Y. Yozz3r (talk) 15:01, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for ht evector images of Egyptian Gods

Hi Jeff, I was very glad to find your vector images here online. I´m searching for a complete family tree of the heliopolitanean Cosmogony and I found all of the the 9 needed gods apart from Tefnut, Geb, and Nut. You never drawed them? Or I just didn´t find them? Whould be greatissimo the have all the nine of them in one stile. Thanks a lot for an answer! Greetings from Germany! Dermias

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