Talk:San Joaquin Valley

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Statement accuracy

Several statements in the article do not seem accurate, at least in the northern San Joaquin Valley. For example:

The "San Joaquin" river is "mostly dry in [its] lower reaches" -- Since the 1930s, have the San Joaquin's lower reaches ever run dry?

"Oil derricks and pumps" "can be found in varying densities throughout the valley." -- Are there any producing oil derricks or pumps in the northern San Joaquin Valley?

"Landholdings are considerably larger than those in the Midwest and South, usually on the order of thousands of acres." -- Landholdings in the Midwest and Great Plains have become increasingly large. Also, this phrasing does not take into account that most land holdings are small or modest, even if a large percentage of the total acreage is in large holdings.

"Methane and other noxious gases" -- Methane is a greenhouse gas, but it is not quite a noxious gas.

"Among well-populated areas, the San Joaquin Valley is perhaps the most conservative in California." -- During the last quarter of the twentieth century, Orange County was generally considered the most conservative well-populated area of California. The San Joaquin Valley was usually considered to be a swing area.

-- Jasper 07:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okies and Arkies

My father was born in Oklahoma and traveled to the San Joaquin Valley. Speaking with my father and grandmother gave much insight to their plight to survive.

My issue is with the terminology used to describe these proud people who survived against all odds. Many times living in squalid conditions, camped in remote locations, with only ditch water and fruit from the trees to survive.

Okie and Arkie are considered insults, much like the "N" word to black Americans.

Please consider revising.

Oklahoman and Arkansan would be acceptable.

A citation or reference is needed for the statement that the majority of cases of coccidioidomycosis occur outside the San Joaquin Valley area. Armona (talk) 19:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find a reference to it yet after a search through e-medicine and the CDC website, so I took it out for now. I'll look through my textbooks. When I find the reference, I'll go ahead and put it back in with the reference, unless I'm wrong about it.--Beezer137 (talk) 01:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Sorry, I saw the template, but think there are a few statements that stood out that we should start the sourcing effort on. Ufwuct (talk) 17:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a very poorly cited article. The "ethnic" section is almost totally un-cited, it also is written in language unacceptable for an encyclopaedia. I'm flagging it for revision/deletion. Dsh6640 (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

San Joaquin Valley / Central Valley (California)

There is a lot of duplication and overlap between San Joaquin Valley and Central Valley (California), which are effectively the same thing. I suggest merging. Fig (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The articles may be similar but the San Joaquin Valley is distinct from the Sacramento Valley in demographics and population. Hydraulically the Sacramento Valley has exponentially more water (and less domestic demand) than the San Joaquin (which is parched and overextended) which itself has a separate basin (Tulare).

EPA Brought-on drought

Should there not be a small section about the drought due to the EPA protecting the Delta Smelt? It is very important because it effects the agriculture so much that this country might experience a famine soon. --Azemocram (talk) 02:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]