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December 24, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 21, 2011. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Ania Bien's 1986 photographic installation on the Hotel Polen in Amsterdam, which was destroyed in a fire that killed 33 people, included images alluding to the Holocaust?
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"Derelict"?

The hotel is called "derelict" just before the fire happened, but it was active enough to attract a large group of Swedish tourists and at least two American tourists. I understand that it no longer qualified as a luxury hotel, but "derelict" seems perhaps too strong a word. Perhaps "run down" or "dilapidated" or some other translation of the Dutch term? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:26, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, dilapidated is a better word. I am sometimes struggling with English words and Google Translate is no help then. Thanks! S_peakF_ree ^(talk)_(contribs) 01:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to discuss the connotations of English words with me at any time. It is truly a pleasure to collaborate with you and the other editors here on this article, sad though the topic is. I hope that it will be only the first of many. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:47, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair-use files

Per WP:FUC, it is preferable for us to cut down on the number of fair-use files in this article. Defending the image of the firetruck under FUC 8 would be difficult, although I think the picture of the building itself and the fire from the air may be easier to write a FUR for. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK I have removed the image of the firetruck, it's not that vital to the article. The other ones should stay though as they are needed to depict the hotel and the fire. If you see any other problems please let me know. Thank you. S_peakF_ree ^(talk)_(contribs) 11:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is looking better. I'd suggest strengthening the fair-use rationales for the remaining pictures. I'm pretty bad at writing them myself, so maybe a look at some featured articles could help you out. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

See: Talk:Hotel Polen fire/GA1. S_peakF_ree ^(talk)_(contribs) 20:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish victims

User:SpeakFree asked on svwp for additional information from Swedish sources. Though a study of original Swedish newspapers from the period probably would be rewarding there seems to be little information that has entered the internet. Here however is an article published by the Swedish daily paper Aftonbladet from 1998 which lists the five large fires involving Swedes and includes the one at Hotel Polen. According to this source the number of Swedish victims was 17. /FredrikT (talk) 12:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! I'll put that in the article. S_peakF_ree ^(talk)_(contribs) 15:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]