Talk:John Smith (missionary)

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Requested move 18 April 2015

It has been proposed in this section that John Smith (missionary) be renamed and moved to John Smith (missionary, born 1790).

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John Smith (missionary) → John Smith (missionary, born 1790) – WP:PRECISE -- this is insufficiently precise to determine the topic of the article. There are multiple missionaries named John Smith, and being a missionary is common in Mormonism -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Support as per nom. Greg Kaye 12:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose Who else at John Smith might you expect to have this title? Precisely because missionary work is so commonplace in the LDS church, I wouldn't expect to see biographies of them with such a disambiguator. Mitt Romney (missionary)? Thomas Monson (missionary)? Given WP:TITLECHANGES, this seems like a solution in search of a problem. --BDD (talk) 16:53, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The preacher that founded the motorcycle club mission is obviously a missionary, evangelizing to outlaw bikers. And because it is so common in the LDS church, "missionary" cannot be used alone. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An evangelist and a missionary are not the same. And my point is that because so many LDS members are missionaries, it's rarely a defining characteristic of them, suitable for disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He goes forth amongst the outlaw bikers to preach about god, that being his mission, so is a missionary, the same as the LDS members preaching to the gentiles. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 00:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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