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Each week a Collaboration of the Week will be picked using this page. This is a specific topic which either has no article or a basic stub page, the aim being to have a featured-standard article by the end of the week, from widespread cooperative editing.

The project aims to fill gaps in Wikipedia, to give users a focus and to give us all something to be proud of. Anyone can nominate an article and can vote for the nominated articles. Every Sunday, the votes are tallied, and the winner will be promoted for a week to potential contributors.

Previous winners can be found at /History.
Removed nominations can be found at /Removed.

Collaborations
Artikel
Science and technology
Miscellaneous

Selecting the next Collaboration of the Week

The next winner will be selected on Sunday, October 24, 18:00 (UTC).

Voting

Please vote for as many of the following candidates as you like. Please add only support votes. Opposing votes will not affect the result, as the winner is simply the one with the most support votes (see Approval voting).

Only registered users should vote.

To enter your votes, simply edit the appropriate sections by just inserting a new line with "# ~~~~". This will add your username and a time stamp in a new numbered list item.

Tie-breakers

In case of a tie, voting will be extended for 24 hours. If there is still a tie, the candidate that was nominated first wins.

Nominations

New nominations can be made at any time and should be added at the end of this page. Please use the template.

If the page you are nominating already exists, please add {{COTW}} to the top of its talk page. This expands to: Template:COTW

Considerations for nominations

  • Please only nominate articles which don't currently exist or are stubs. (Two paragraphs or less of information or fewer than 1,000 characters)
  • Giving reasons as to why an article should become the COTW may assist others in casting their vote.
  • Can the wider community easily contribute to the article? Or is it something only a small number of people will know about?

Pruning

For pages nominated on or after 1 September 2004, the nomination will be moved to /Removed if it has not received 5 votes after 7 days on the list, 10 votes after 14 days, 15 votes after 21 days, and so on. Previously, the pruning limit was 4 votes per week, and the old limit will continue to apply to pages nominated before 1 September 2004. Please see the talk page for discussion of this change in pruning policy.

Candidates for next week

2004 Summer Paralympics

Nominated August 14; needs 44 votes by October 30 (minimum 4 votes per week)

Support

  1. Ambi 12:33, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  2. Tom- 16:36, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  3. Mpolo 16:42, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
  4. Neutrality 19:18, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  5. Conti|✉ 19:31, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
  6. PlasmaDragon 23:38, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  7. Lockeownzj00 07:27, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  8. Farside 19:59, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  9. Tothebarricades.tk 03:54, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  10. TPK 05:21, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  11. Lyellin 09:27, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)
  12. dpol 14:28, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  13. RickK 04:57, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
  14. zoney ▓█▒ talk 12:51, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  15. Burgundavia 08:36, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
  16. [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 23:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  17. Average Earthman 10:31, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  18. Ludek9 15:25, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  19. [[User:Bodnotbod|bodnotbod » .....TALKQuietly)]] 16:03, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC) - could be an opportunity to put other sources to shame?
  20. • Benc • 18:00, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  21. Graham ☺ | Talk 03:27, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  22. Dysprosia 05:58, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  23. Theresa Knott (Nate the Stork) 13:31, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  24. user:zanimum
  25. Weasel
  26. Ravn 20:43, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  27. Revth 03:18, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  28. Cwoyte 08:08, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
  29. Jayjg 16:32, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  30. \ wolfenSilva / 19:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  31. Martewa 11:15, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  32. Alex Krupp 02:20, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
  33. func(talk) 03:23, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  34. violet/riga (t) 18:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  35. Scottbeck 16:13, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  36. Guus 19:57, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
  37. Shorne 03:38, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  38. Radagast 01:01, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
  39. AlexR 01:35, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  40. Valentino 16:39, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  41. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC) (bandwagon)
  42. Bearcat 04:30, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  43. Matthewmayer 19:33, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Peter9 20:02, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC) This user is a probable sockpuppet, having made only two edits, one to this page and one to the page being nominated. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 16:40, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
Dragan 20:08, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) This user is a probable sockpuppet, having made only three edits, all to this page. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 16:40, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
Query: How can you tell? -Litefantastic 23:54, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The page titled Special:Contributions/Sverdrup will display a complete edit history for the user Sverdrup. This link is available from every user page, and every user has a link to their Contributions page in the bar at the top. ✏ Sverdrup 00:05, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • Substub. Shame, Wikipedia, shame. Ambi 12:33, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Agfh! Fix it! Tom- 16:36, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Def needs fixing- even more so since TV Coverage is slim to non-existant. Lyellin 09:27, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Who cares? The paraolympics don't have a hundredth of the political and cultrual impact of the regular olympics, and there are a lot of other issues which need covering that are a lot more important. EastNile 16:54, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • More important? I suppose you'd prefer for politically and culturally unimportant disabled people to be shut up in institutions.
    • I'd sooner cover this than the "regular" Olympics, which are a nauseating festival of commercialism and idiotic patriotism. Shorne 03:38, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • This is a major topic that needs to be followed as extensively as the Olympics are. RickK 04:57, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
  • Didn't even realise they were on at the same time, I thought they were scheduled differently. This is different from the Special Olympics though, isn't it? zoney ▓█▒ talk 12:51, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • They're not on at the same time, the 2004 paralympics is the 17th to 28th of September. As for not being important, the BBC is showing an hour and a half of coverage per night, so at least one major broadcaster views it as being of some importance. Average Earthman 10:31, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Let's support the under-recognised for once! -- user:zanimum
  • it hasnt even begun yet! why don't you wait until at least a couple months after it's finished to promote it? it doesn't make sense to work it up when there will be much more to add later on. --Jiang 09:52, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Erm, today is the 12th, Jiang. The Paralympics start on the 17th, and end on the 28th. This is currently third or fourth in line, which means it's almost definitely going to end a week or two after the Paralympics conclude, which is perfect. If it had been nominated any later, it would've actually got to be COTW so late that it would be practically useless, as they would have been over so long before that all the interest would have passed. Ambi 10:29, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • People are voting on its current status. There is no guarantee or indication that no one will be interested on the article as the Paralympics are held and the article could very well be improved and not need to be the COTW to be unstubbed (not a stub at the moment and reasonable length for an article on a future event). This would be a waste. I really don't see the logic behind the claim that people will lose interest later on and therefore make this unsuitable for COTW - the point of COTW is to get people's attention. If the article already gets people's attention (like to summer olympics), when why make it the COTW? In this context, my comment really does appear to make a whole lot of sense. --Jiang 11:03, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't all this effort go into Paralympic Games rather than a single event? The 2004 games article is really just a child article of the Paralympic Games parent, and the parent needs help. Filiocht 13:18, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • While I agree that the Paralympic Games article needs work, so does this one. It really needs the attention, and it would help set a standard that could then be used for all previous Paralympics. Ambi 13:29, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Do not count sock puppets. --Jiang 10:42, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Neutrality, you have voted for this twice. I removed the second one, sorry. - Taxman 17:16, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • I have to comment: every Olympic year, it drives me crazy that the Olympics get virtually unavoidable media coverage, while most people don't even realize the Paralympics exist. The Globe and Mail even had an editorial pointing out that after all of Canada's handwringing about our athletes' disappointing Olympic performance this year, hardly anybody even noticed that we won 72 medals at the Paralympics. Seventyflippingtwo! Much agreed: a topic that needs to be so much better known than it is. But far be it from mainstream media to celebrate the achievements of the disabled, right? Bearcat 04:30, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Culture of Spain

Nominated August 17; needs 48 votes by November 9 (minimum 4 votes per week)

Support

  1. Sarge Baldy 10:48, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Peregrine981 13:16, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
  3. Donar Reiskoffer 14:16, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  4. Tothebarricades.tk 21:26, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  5. TPK 05:21, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  6. Johnleemk | Talk 14:40, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  7. Lockeownzj00 20:59, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  8. Farside 09:17, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  9. Tuf-Kat 22:45, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
  10. zoney ███ talk 00:41, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  11. Taxman 00:55, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
  12. —siroχo 02:54, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
  13. LUDRAMAN | T 09:25, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  14. Austin Hair 09:45, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
  15. Stereotek 09:20, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  16. Burgundavia 08:36, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
  17. [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 23:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  18. Davodd 17:10, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
  19. Bmills 12:16, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  20. Jonik 19:50, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  21. Isomorphic 00:23, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  22. Conti|✉ 18:25, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
  23. J3ff 07:22, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  24. Deus Ex 18:08, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  25. Lexor|Talk 07:21, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  26. Jpittman 00:13, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  27. Confuzion 11:44, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  28. Jayjg 14:25, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  29. --Martewa 11:15, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  30. The bellman 04:58, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  31. Maurreen 07:33, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  32. Revth 02:18, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  33. Leonus 17:40, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  34. func(talk) 10:36, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  35. Mpolo 15:54, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
  36. Graham ☺ | Talk 14:41, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  37. Montréalais 17:16, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  38. Shorne 03:40, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  39. gadfium 21:16, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  40. NeoJustin 00:13 Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
  41. ManuelGR 19:56, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  42. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  43. Chris Edgemon 10:18, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  44. KNewman 16:44, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  45. RJH 19:04, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  46. McMullen 02:06, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • Wow. Just wow. Sarge Baldy 10:48, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • my homeland! Lockeownzj00 20:59, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • We don't have a Culture of Spain article? Oh dear. Isomorphic 00:23, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • I decided to create an outline in the article. There are a great many articles I linked to and a couple good external links that could make this a very easy collaboration project. Feel free to move the outline to a subarticle if that is considered better. - Taxman 03:52, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Note: There is an article (actually a number of them) on music of Spain, which should be linked to/summarized here. Tuf-Kat 07:58, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
    • So noted in the outline. Thank you - Taxman 17:25, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
  • God knows it could stand some work. - Montréalais 17:16, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • ¡Claro que sí! Shorne 03:40, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Culture of Greece

Nominated August 24; needs 40 votes by November 2 (minimum 4 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Jiang 20:32, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  2. LUDRAMAN | T 21:31, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  3. Farside 21:59, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  4. JamesTeterenko 22:36, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  5. Warofdreams 01:02, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  6. Sarge Baldy 01:06, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
  7. Lockeownzj00 19:23, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  8. Tothebarricades.tk 21:27, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  9. TPK 07:39, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  10. [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 23:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  11. ALoan (Talk) 13:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  12. Conti|✉ 13:11, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
  13. Davodd 17:19, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
  14. dcljr 06:26, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  15. Linn
  16. Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 20:13, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)
  17. [[User:Sverdrup|User:Sverdrup]] 10:18, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  18. J3ff 07:25, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  19. zoney ▓   ▒ talk 13:35, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  20. Average Earthman 10:24, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  21. Straal 11:22, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  22. Mgm 17:57, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
  23. Tuf-Kat 07:56, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
  24. --Martewa 11:15, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  25. Revth 02:18, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  26. func(talk) 10:44, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  27. Leonus 16:25, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  28. An mo 22:32, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  29. Maurreen 23:19, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  30. Graham ☺ | Talk 14:41, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  31. GuloGuloGulo 21:01, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  32. Shorne 03:44, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  33. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  34. NeoJustin 00:44, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  35. KNewman
  36. RJH 19:04, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  37. McMullen 02:04, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Philipdl71 01:22, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Possibly a sockpuppet, only two edits, both are votes here. --Conti|✉ 16:25, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)


Comments:

  • We can do better than a substub for the cradle of Western Civilization, can we? --Jiang 20:32, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • I think this is the most important of all the culture of... articles which have been nominated. Warofdreams 01:02, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • I second that sentiment. :) Mgm 17:57, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Note: Music of Greece exists and should be linked and summarized at culture of Greece, though the issue of ancient vs. modern Greece is likely to come up -- I reckon most people looking for info on Greek culture aren't looking for pop singers, rappers or rembetiku. Tuf-Kat 07:56, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement

Nominated September 3; needs 45 votes by November 5 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support

  1. • Benc • 21:06, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  2. Tuf-Kat 21:15, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
  3. FZ 21:38, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  4. Tom- 22:02, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  5. Conti|✉ 22:58, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Ambi 00:28, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  7. Farside 08:36, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  8. TPK 11:28, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  9. Linn
  10. Burgundavia 10:00, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
  11. Graham ☺ | Talk 16:41, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  12. Thue | talk 19:49, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  13. G Rutter 09:25, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  14. PFHLai 10:24, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)
  15. LUDRAMAN | T 18:44, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  16. PedanticallySpeaking 20:02, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
  17. Alarm 16:02, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  18. pir 08:47, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  19. Jonik 09:17, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  20. Matthewmayer 16:55, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  21. Cyopardi 17:52, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  22. J3ff 07:27, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  23. ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  24. Ravn 20:45, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  25. [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 09:30, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  26. Maurreen 04:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  27. Fpahl 10:12, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  28. Jayjg 14:27, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  29. Aramgutang 02:52, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  30. Bobblewik  (talk) 18:16, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  31. func(talk) 03:20, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  32. Stormie 05:10, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
  33. Liblamb 20:15, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  34. Bsktcase 05:51, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  35. Tom Verbeure 02:38, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  36. Thepedestrian 04:11, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  37. gadfium 21:12, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  38. Sayeth 15:22, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
  39. SimonP 23:25, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
  40. KNewman 20:20, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  41. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  42. NeoJustin 02:17, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  43. ✏ Sverdrup 11:45, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

History of Asia

Nominated September 21; needs 25 votes by October 26 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. ✏ Sverdrup 15:09, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  2. Conti|✉ 16:10, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
  3. PlasmaDragon 17:10, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  4. Thue | talk 19:52, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  5. SimonP 21:59, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Graham ☺ | Talk 23:29, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  7. Sarge Baldy 00:10, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
  8. Davodd 01:40, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
  9. Ambi 08:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  10. Fpahl 09:54, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  11. Filiocht 14:30, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  12. Isomorphic 15:04, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  13. --Jiang 19:39, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  14. Hurricane111 06:21, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  15. Fuelbottle | Talk 21:47, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  16. J3ff 06:30, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  17. Felix Wan 21:50, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  18. func(talk) 03:13, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  19. The bellman 12:19, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  20. Lexor|Talk 11:25, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  21. pir 23:03, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  22. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • This is a different kind of project; the article is just a list, that points to all the articles we have in this huge topic. This COTW should aim to make a featured article in best Summary style available. Compare to History of Europe, History of Africa. ✏ Sverdrup 15:09, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Actually this would need a bit more than just summary of the articles currently indexed. There's a hole where the history of Central Asia should be, for one thing. That area may be a backwater now, but you can't tell the story of Asia without a good discussion of the steppe nomads (Huns, Sarmatians, Mongols, etc.) Isomorphic 15:04, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • It seems like this topic doesn't have enough unity to make a good article. Maurreen 23:38, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree with Maurreen. This is a terribly broad topic, only a bit narrower than History of the world. Shorne 03:47, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • But still, that is an article. History of Asia is currently just a list. ✏ Sverdrup 15:44, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • A good summary on a topic this big is hard to write, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful. Broad overviews are useful for providing context, and for finding holes in the current coverage. Not only that, but this is the sort of topic that collaborative editing is perfect for: the information is widely available, but needs lots of processing to make it into a good article. Isomorphic 17:41, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • I think a super-brief overview would be good, but I think that expanding History of East Asia, or other smaller regions, would a better investment of the effort. I brought up East Asia as an example because of the intricate cultural exchanges and influences (and many wars), all of which in turn allow one to write a cohesive history of that particular region. Bringing up the steppe nomads would be appropriate in an article titled History of Central Asia, or History of West Asia, for example. In addition, many cultures have sprung in different parts of Asia, and for long periods of time have nothing or little to do with each other. One can discuss the Indus valley civilization and history almost independently of the history of the east asian civilizations. Julius.kusuma 23:00, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I think a series of Asian regional histories would probably be a better investment of resources, if possible. A general History of Asia is a massive topic, which may well be utterly impossible to cover adequately in a single article. Bearcat 04:35, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

U.S. embargo against Cuba

Nominated September 22; needs 35 votes by November 10 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Gentgeen 07:46, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  2. Ambi 08:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  3. Fpahl 09:53, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  4. Eric B. and Rakim 09:56, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  5. Conti|✉ 10:27, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Confuzion 11:38, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  7. Sarge Baldy 13:39, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
  8. Graham ☺ | Talk 14:48, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  9. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 04:26, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
  10. JamesTeterenko 19:44, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  11. Jonik 12:18, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  12. Tothebarricades.tk 18:55, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  13. J3ff 06:29, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  14. Davodd 19:40, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
  15. Jeff8765 15:08, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
  16. Joyous 02:36, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
  17. func(talk) 03:12, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  18. Stormie 05:10, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
  19. The bellman 03:33, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  20. PedanticallySpeaking 15:30, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
  21. Bsktcase 05:51, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  22. pir 23:03, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  23. Maurreen 23:39, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  24. GuloGuloGulo 21:43, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  25. ZayZayEM 08:20, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  26. Shorne 03:28, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  27. Sayeth 15:49, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  28. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  29. NeoJustin 01:57 Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  30. KNewman 16:42, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  31. Oska 07:46, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
Philipdl71 01:25, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Possibly a sockpuppet, only two edits, both are votes here. --Conti|✉ 16:25, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • A very contentious issue in U.S. forign relations doesn't even have a stub. This title might not be the best, feel free to suggest others. Gentgeen 07:46, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Is "against" the most common preposition used? maybe "on", "of" or "towards" may be better--Confuzion 11:38, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • "Of" is the much more common one for every reference I have ever heard. - Taxman 04:02, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
        • Google Test:
          • "U.S. embargo against Cuba": 3,740 hits
          • "U.S. embargo on Cuba": 2,770 hits
          • "U.S. embargo of Cuba": 1,910 hits
          • "U.S. embargo toward Cuba": 8 hits
          • "U.S. embargo towards Cuba": 16 hits
          • ""Cuban embargo": 12,000 hits
[[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 04:26, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
I support the simpler Cuban embargo with the other topics as redirects. - Davodd 19:44, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
Support that as a title. Do any other nations have an embargo of Cuba? If so, the article could also deal with them. Warofdreams 14:06, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I would also support that title. It's less likely to promote edit warring. - Taxman 17:38, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • I disagree. The embargo is perpetrated by the US. To call it a Cuban embargo IMO expresses a US-centric view. I doubt that it would occur to a Cuban to call it a Cuban embargo. While the shorter expression "Cuban embargo" is of course often used as a shorthand, especially inside the US, the above Google statistics are misleading (no criticism intended -- thanks for producing them!). Compare:
    "US embargo" Cuba: 30,400 hits
    "US trade embargo" Cuba: 7,200 hits
    "US economic embargo" Cuba: 3,320 hits
    "US economic sanctions" Cuba: 2,850 hits
Of course we should redirect "Cuban embargo" to the page, but IMO using this as a title would be POV. Fpahl 21:05, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Following WP convention, it should be "U.S." instead of "US" since Americans use the periods. :-) Davodd 23:32, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the reminder :-). I follow that convention on article pages, but I would have thought that I can write how I'm used to on a talk page? BTW, it's people from the U.S. who use the periods. ;-) Fpahl 08:41, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Support what Fpahl said about the title. It is a U.S. led embargo of Cuba and should be titled as such. Oska 07:46, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

Civil war

Nominated September 28; needs 25 votes by November 2 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Alarm 09:34, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  2. Graham ☺ | Talk 11:42, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  3. PlasmaDragon 19:17, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  4. [[User:Eequor|η♀υωρ]] 22:52, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  5. [[User:Norm|Norm]] 17:01, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  6. Farside 21:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  7. Maurreen 06:00, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  8. Davodd 23:28, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
  9. Chopchopwhitey 01:57, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  10. pir 23:03, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  11. ZayZayEM 08:20, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. Donar Reiskoffer 14:28, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  13. ALoan (Talk) 12:10, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  14. Shorne 03:50, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  15. Thepedestrian 04:13, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  16. [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 07:40, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  17. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  18. NeoJustin 02:14, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  19. KNewman 16:41, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  20. RJH 19:05, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  21. [[User:Dmn|Dmn / Դմն ]] 13:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
24.91.21.253 02:40, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC) - "only registered users should vote" -- ALoan (Talk) 14:18, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • The most common form of war in modern times gets one paragraph and a list. There's a lot to be said about the development of the concept of civil war over the centuries. Also, the effect civil warfare tend to have on a country and its population, economically as well as socially, should certainly be covered.
  • Almost nominated this myself lst week. Davodd 23:28, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)


Caribbean Sea

Nominated October 4; needs 20 votes by November 1 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 22:32, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  2. pie4all88 23:02, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. [[User:Davodd|DAVODD «TALK»]] 23:32, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  4. Joyous 23:36, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  5. Graham ☺ | Talk 00:16, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Thue | talk 16:07, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. Taxman 17:18, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
  8. J3ff 23:07, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. Shorne 03:58, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  10. Sayeth 15:04, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
  11. Fuelbottle | Talk 21:25, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. ZayZayEM 09:04, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  13. Maurreen 21:45, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  14. Thepedestrian 04:14, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  15. Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  16. [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 07:42, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  17. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  18. McMullen 02:39, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  19. RJH 19:12, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • I'm surprised that the article is so small... --pie4all88 00:10, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Oooooo, pirates and hurricanes and slave trade and plate tectonics...Joyous 23:36, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
  • Great one. A lot of fun stuff that would be easy to research and add in. - Taxman 17:18, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
    • Though we need to be careful that if we keep two articles, Caribbean and Caribbean Sea, that we keep the subjects covered accurate to their topic. Both are qualified to be here btw. - Taxman 12:37, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
  • Count me in on this one. Sounds like fun. [[User:Davodd|DAVODD «TALK»]] 01:40, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Gang

Nominated October 7; needs 20 votes by November 4 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Rmhermen 14:02, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Shorne 14:57, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 15:49, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
  4. PlasmaDragon 16:03, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. J3ff 23:38, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 01:29, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
  7. Jeff8765 02:35, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
  8. Maurreen 03:47, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. ZZ 09:01, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  10. Tuf-Kat 09:06, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
  11. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 14:06, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  13. Sayeth 15:46, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  14. Jmabel | Talk 01:22, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  15. NeoJustin 04:49 Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • Miserably short, poorly organized. Americocentric (or maybe North Americocentric, if that is a word). Rmhermen 14:02, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
    • Recently launched WikiProject Countering systemic bias keeps a list of articles at which all cover their topics from a U.S. or developed world perspective only. "Gang" has now been added to this list. Anyone interested in this very common problem of Wikipedia articles is welcome to join the project. Alarm 15:55, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Needs "types of gangs," "gang structure," "history of gangs," difference between gangs, paramilitaries, organized crime, and terrorist groups. Also "gang activities," "list of notable gangs." [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 15:49, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
    • Gang weapons, too. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 00:39, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Anti-imperialism

Nominated October 7; needs 15 votes by October 28 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Shorne 14:56, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. PlasmaDragon 16:04, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Fpahl 08:04, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Gadykozma 16:17, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Xed 18:26, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Maurreen 21:52, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. Thepedestrian 04:15, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  8. Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  9. RJH 18:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  10. Shane King 00:15, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  11. Warofdreams 17:04, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  13. KNewman 16:38, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • An important subject with many facets that deserves much more than a stub. Shorne 14:56, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Current article is ameri- and chronocentric --Xed 18:26, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree. The topic would seem more germaine to the collapse of colonialism and possibly the Soviet empire. Contemporary commentary is probably too myopic. Perhaps there should be a separate, more polemic topic titled "Anti-US-imperialism"? RJH 18:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Lebanese Civil War

Nominated October 9; needs 15 votes by October 30 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Penta 07:50, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. J3ff 15:45, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 16:51, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
  4. Fpahl 17:22, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. SimonP 17:43, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Shorne 19:23, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. Maurreen 21:55, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  8. Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
  9. Pyramide 18:50, Oct 13, 2003
  10. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  11. KNewman 13:03, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • A small yet important conflict, with a truly dinky article. (However, the list of major and minor players is great, and reflects well the "You've gotta have a scorecard to keep up with it" nature of the conflict.) -- Penta 07:50, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Indian reservation

Nominated October 12; needs 15 votes by November 2 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Tuf-Kat 18:42, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
  2. SimonP 18:47, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
  3. Shorne 21:10, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Maurreen 02:29, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Conti|✉ 12:47, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  6. jengod 20:07, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  7. Rmhermen 15:10, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  8. KNewman 20:18, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  9. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  10. NeoJustin 02:05 Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  11. Metahacker 02:49, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. Bearcat 04:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  13. GuloGuloGulo 20:34, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • There seems to be a separate article on Canadian Indian reserves which is much better. This article is rather terrible, and could use much more on what makes reservations legally special, the history of the institution, etc. Tuf-Kat 18:42, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
  • I thought Native American reservation was the generally accepted term these days? Not being from the USA I went into the article expecting it to be about Indien. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:13, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I don't think I have ever heard the term Native American reservation. They are called Indian Reservations and this article needs some help. NeoJustin 02:07 Oct 22, 2004
  • Oh, dear. That article definitely needs to be a lot longer and more detailed than it is. Bearcat 04:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Artificial limb

Nominated October 13; needs 10 votes by October 27 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. AlexG 18:52, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. PlasmaDragon 19:59, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Graham ☺ | Talk 23:11, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Shorne 16:46, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. gadfium 00:26, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  7. NeoJustin 00:45 Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  8. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:23, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • There's so much more that could be said on history, biology, medicine, psychology, and popular culture. AlexG

Economy of Europe

Nominated October 13; needs 15 votes by November 3 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. SimonP 19:51, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  2. PlasmaDragon 19:55, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Graham ☺ | Talk 23:11, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Shorne 16:45, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Maurreen 15:05, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Ravn 10:34, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. Xed 10:46, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  8. Wonderfool 10:20, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. NeoJustin 01:53, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  10. Spug 11:50, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  11. [[User:Dmn|Dmn / Դմն ]] 13:42, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • A massive topic but an important one, especially seeing how closely integrated the continent is. I have recently been working on Economy of Africa and it would be great to have a similarly constructed article for an economically very different continent to allow readers to compare and contrast the two. - SimonP 19:51, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • Perhaps work should also be done on Economy of Asia, Economy of North America, Economy of Australia, and Economy of South America? (Possibly even Economy of Antartica?)
  • I wonder whether "EU economy" might be better. Maurreen 15:05, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • I think not. Much of Europe is not in the EU. Also, "Economy of Europe" is parallel to "Economy of Africa". Shorne 22:28, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • How meaningful can this be, given that Europe is not a single economic unit? Filiocht 10:53, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
That's why I suggested EU. Maurreen 14:00, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I think you're right. Filiocht 14:12, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • We could make it like the Economy of Africa. That article is not about a single economic unit and it is a pretty good article. I don't know about that Economy of Antartica. What kind of an economy does Antartica have? NeoJustin 02:53, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
    • Does it have an economy? No state, no production, no markets -- only imports, all of it. ✏ Sverdrup 11:51, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Shaft (1971 movie)

Nominated October 14; needs 10 votes by October 28 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. PlasmaDragon 16:54, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. Maurreen 03:40, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Cordell Walker 22:55, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  5. jengod 21:45, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

Heredity

Nominated October 16; needs 15 votes by November 6 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Fastfission 21:53, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. Shorne 22:15, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Maurreen 00:49, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Joe D 16:42, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. gadfium 00:28, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. RJH 22:25, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. ALoan (Talk) 00:12, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  8. Shane King 00:16, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  9. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  10. NeoJustin 02:03 Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  11. David 5000 16:52, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • Shamefully short! Should be somewhat about the history of heredity in thought (both human, plant, and animal -- Buffon, Lamarck, Darwin, Galton, Morgan, Lysenko, Watson/Crick, etc.), provide a better linkage to other articles in relation to heredity, controversy surrounding its perceived importance, use of notions of heredity in non-biological fields (sociology, politics), etc. A rich topic will be had for all! --Fastfission 21:53, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Somalian Civil War

Nominated October 17; needs 10 votes by October 31 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Fuelbottle | Talk 22:30, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. SimonP 22:47, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
  3. Shorne 09:57, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Conti|✉ 00:26, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  5. KNewman 22:47, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  7. J3ff 23:57, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  8. Xed 09:35, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. Meikal 11:19, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - possible sockpuppet (only one edit, here) -- ALoan (Talk) 10:29, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • This article is only two lines at the moment.
  • The title, however, should be Somali civil war. Shorne 09:57, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Currently a redirect to History of Somalia. -- ALoan (Talk) 00:08, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Partition of India

Nominated October 18, needs 10 votes by November 1 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. jengod 00:54, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Shorne 09:55, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Rmhermen 15:10, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  4. ALoan (Talk) 00:12, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Jmabel | Talk 01:23, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Sarge Baldy 02:01, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  7. Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  8. J3ff 23:50, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. KNewman 16:46, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • A major subject that needs attention. --Golbez 21:40, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

Partisans (Yugoslavia)

Nominated October 19; needs 10 votes by November 2 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. Gadykozma 14:33, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. Litefantastic 16:44, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Shorne 10:47, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. NeoJustin 02:11 Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  5. KNewman 13:02, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

Russian (Soviet) press

Nominated October 19; needs 5 votes by October 26 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. KNewman 20:16, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Shorne 10:48, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. NeoJustin 02:13, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

Fudge (candy)

Nominated October 22; needs 5 votes by October 29 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:

  1. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:18, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Shorne 11:51, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. ✏ Sverdrup 12:00, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. [[User:Davodd|DAVODD «TALK»]] 01:39, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)
  5. Tuf-Kat 21:08, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:

  • I came to the article to see if I could learn something about the candy I like so much. I was horrified to find a stub where so much more could be said about the stuff. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:18, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • I'll contribute to this article if you bring the fudge. Shorne 11:51, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Finally a topic we can sink our teeth into that does not require knowledge of geo-politics. ;-) [[User:Davodd|DAVODD «TALK»]] 01:39, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't this be at just fudge, the candy is by far the most common usage. - SimonP 02:07, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

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