Talk:2005 French riots

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Problems in intro paragraph

the introductory paragraph claims (falsely if I am not mistaken) that the riots were perpetrated entirely by North African Arabs, which it then does not source. Additionally, it claims that un named "experts" chalk it up to Islam. First these are major claims and deserve to be sourced, and secondly I question whether enough of the experts actually include radical Islam as a significant motivator, to actually justify putting it in the intro. I'm cleaning this up, if anyone has objection, let me know. Maxkbennett (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are some sub saharan Africans involved in this riots but not many, the riot started because one Algerian teen was shot to death. its just easy for people to blame someone, and there are lot excuses people can find, but nothing is more than Islam! There are discrimination on the immigrants but not just on Arabs! however have you seen Chinese or Vietnamese start such a violence riots that caused a lot of destructions? the answer is No! there are huge amont of discrimination on Chinese and other Asian people because they don't have the european face which lot Arabs have!

Now there are two ways you can solve the problem, to blame the French society or work hard. Those Asian people experienced the discrimination and they started to work extremely hard, they did this by spending more times in school, library and college, start their own small business and lerning foreigh language so they could be more competitive in the labour market, and many are succesful. Now what are those North Africans doing? continue to blame, this is the difference! before you blame something, you should checkout youself first, the French government had provided so much for the north Africans but they don't appreciate, they drop school at an early age and never really work hard on study. Consider the high unemployment of Europe and globalization, its easy to know that soooo many Arabs will be without a job. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.49.9.186 (talk) 14:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the vast majority of the rioters were North African Arabs of Algerian,Tunisian and moroccan descent.the French riots were commonly referred to as the French intifada in reference to the palestinian intifada.in both these situations the rioters were Arabs, stone throwing was common and shouts of allah akbar were heard.but politically correct people call the rioters youths.

Hello, I'm a French speaking person who follow French news and I agree with the first comment. You cannot write that these riots are Arabs or African riots. It would be a very controversial title in a French media. Not because of political correctness but because this is simply a wrong fact. First because in France this kind of ethnical statistics are not allowed, so you cannot quote any references to prove it. Secondly, if you take a look at the different trials after the riots you will see the defendants as being White, Black or Arabs. I can provide the different article that prove it after some research (written in French). Medias who talked about the French Intifada were mainly American, especially Fox and other conservative medias. Their objectivity can be put into question. So you need to change your sentence, and highlight that these riots were social because they happened mainly in the Banlieues, an economically poor area of big cities, with a big ethnical diversity. However I agree that in some Banlieues, especially around Paris, there is sometimes an apparent majority of Maghreb's, or West African, or Eastern Europeans… but this is not the first attribute of a Banlieue (and by extend of these riots), this is rather the product of recent waves of immigration. If you want to write about the Race influence or Islam influence, you should do a separate chapter. I think you should take a look at the French wikipedia which is well written: ^[1] Jheronimus (talk) 22:42, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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^ http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Émeutes_de_2005_dans_les_banlieues_françaises