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June 14

Unused tennis performance timelines

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unused, but I see that there is discussion at WT:Tennis. I would suggest moving these to project/userspace until there is consensus to deploy them. if they are deployed, there is no reason to keep the stats in a separate template. you could just put the tables in the article directly, so no need for a template-space version. this is how it's done for Module:Sports table. Frietjes (talk) 23:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: A tennis performance timeline may appear in two places: the player's main article, and the player's career statistics article, e.g., Roger Federer and Roger Federer career statistics. These tables have complex calculations of numbers that duplicating tables incurs maintenance overhead and risks inconsistency, so it remains appropriate that statistics are coded at one single place. Then, template options can select relevant parts of the table to display in respective articles. Since these are subpages of the parent template Template:Tennis performance timeline, which is still under development, I see no need to move them elsewhere. Chinissai (talk) 02:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Chinissai, for tables used in two places, we have WP:LST. for example, see UEFA Euro 1996#Group C which is transcluded from UEFA Euro 1996 Group C. Frietjes (talk) 12:57, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • From what I understand, LST doesn't work for these timelines. We need to represent a subset of the data in the main article, but the full table in the statistics article, using the same input source. LST doesn't allow this customization. Chinissai (talk) 14:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        • Chinissai, you can definitely do that with an LST transclusion. the easiest method would be to wrap a particular parameter value inside of a <noinclude>...</noinclude>. or, there are other more sophisticated methods using the frame and parent in LUA. or, you can do what we do with module:sports table. for example, check the table in 2016–17 Borussia Dortmund season#International Champions Cup which is transcluded from the table in 2016 International Champions Cup#China. that method uses <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude>, which again doesn't require a separate template for the table. Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
          • I tried two things in the past few days: using LST on existing contents in top-players articles, and attempting to use LST with the performance timeline template. The LST usage on existing contents is being rejected right away as having no consensus, although some articles started to adopt that. On using the template with LST, it can be challenging and error-prone at times to control which part of the source article to be transcluded. I am worried that LST would be too complicated for the tennis community to adopt. Given my impression that the tennis community is reluctant to changes, I would propose that we keep the traditional template transclusion as an option until we have a clearer way forward. Chinissai (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or at least move to userspace. Based on the discussions at the tennis wikiproject, there is no consensus in actually using these templates versus using the tables that are currently being used. Adamtt9 (talk) 16:07, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Userfy or delete - While there is no consensus that doesn't mean that if there are tweaks it "might" be usable. So userfying is probably best. Also, while there are usually two performance tables for a player, one is a tiny version that only covers the 4 major tournaments. The 2nd table covers those 4 majors plus all the other tournaments and stats. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not sure how to interpret While there is no consensus that doesn't mean that if there are tweaks it "might" be usable. At any rate, duplicating parts of a complex table risks inconsistency and adds maintenance overhead. Chinissai (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Db-revise

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The result of the discussion was I've G7ed it. It remained unused, after creation through this discussion, almost certainly because I never followed up with creating the category and process it would attach to, and listing it at Wikipedia:Revision deletion, but, in any event, if we were to have some form of template for this purpose, it should probably emulate {{Copyvio-revdel}}, rather than asking for a talk page posting of requested revisions to delete.Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:39, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Borderline T2 - WP:REVDEL states that To avoid the Streisand effect, there is no dedicated on-wiki forum for requesting revision deletion under other circumstances. – Train2104 (t • c) 21:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fullyprotected

Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:24, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fox South Dakota

Unused, only links two articles anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:23, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Latin Grammy Award hosts

As a list of people presenting a ceremony, it fails WP:PERFNAV. See similar recent discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 May 23#Template:International Emmy hosts. Rob Sinden (talk) 13:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Robsinden: Will you also nominate {{Grammy Award hosts}} for TfD as well? Much of the templates I made for the Latin Grammys were copied from Grammy Award templates. Erick (talk) 13:36, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ancient talk page template from 2005; no foreseeable use Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:08, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Current Kiribati Cabinet

Unused and mostly redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:AIAssessment

No longer needed since Article Incubation has been halted. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:ConvertAbbrev

Propose merging Template:ConvertAbbrev with Template:Country abbreviation.
Similar function, although {{ConvertAbbrev}} is incomplete and {{Country abbreviation}} can't convert from code to name. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 10:48, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It might be better if the geography bits of {{ConvertAbbrev}} were split off into {{Country abbreviation}}/{{iso2country}} and the language bits were split off into {{ISO 639 name}}/{{iso2language}}/{{lang2iso}}. The group of templates generally seems like a mess and could use some more Luafication instead of being mostly dependent on massive switch parser functions and template names. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 16:05, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:BBREF

Unused, unlikely to be used as it contradicts our citation style. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • strong delete, all this template does is transclude {{BBstyle}} with an additional section heading. this is a very bad idea since the edit links will take you to the template, and not to the section in the article. Frietjes (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:24 mechanized brigade (Ukraine)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fairport timeline

Unused hardcorded progression box. We can do this much better now. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:13, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:FHL Team

Unused, we have a uniform infobox for teams of all kinds now. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:10, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:F.C. Barreirense matches

Unused, contains only two links that are both red Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ExamsDIRlong

Unused, single-user wikibreak template Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Equation requested

Unused, untouched since 2010. Apparently was confusing even in 2010. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:12, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Entrep country policy

Unused and unlikely to be used. Very sloppy template Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:11, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Energy in Africa

Unused, redundant to {{Africa topic}}'s Energy subset Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:11, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Endemicsub

Unused, just generates an icon with no obvious use Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:10, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is not unused. Editors have removed its parent template and mow wish to remove this one. Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:03, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

California small-market radio templates

Propose merging Template:Barstow Radio, Template:Diablo Valley Radio, Template:Gilroy/Hollister Radio and Template:Tri-Valley Radio.
These templates and certain others in Template:California Radio Markets are likely original research - and some can be merged to larger markets' templates, per the Arbitron radio markets map. For instance, Template:Barstow Radio can be merged into Template:Victor Valley Radio; Template:Diablo Valley Radio and Tri-Valley Radio in Template:San Francisco Radio, and Gilroy/Hollister into San Jose. I could not find any instances where these small regions are referred as unique "radio markets". Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:47, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Globalize/Pakistan

Unused. Use {{Globalize|2=Pakistan}}. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 08:19, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ping to nominator to address usage.
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Template:United Kingdom premierships

Misleading navbox. The majority of the links are redirects to sections of the biography page for each PM, or to disambiguation pages. Rob Sinden (talk) 08:54, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Electronic music navbox

Not quite sure what's going on here, to be honest, but seems to be obselete. Jellyman (talk) 08:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:No Remorse (band)

Navbox with only one blue link other than the title page. NSH002 (talk) 07:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Stahlgewitter

Navbox with only one blue link apart from the title page, and even that appears to be of dubious notability (in fact, both the link and title pages are of dubious notability; it wouldn't surprise me if they both get nominated at AfD). NSH002 (talk) 06:53, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Disney Channel Kuwait

Unused, not properly made Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:02, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:DiscussionsACS

Unused talk page box Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Db page

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G5 by Plastikspork (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 23:01, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, no idea how you'd tag a page that was already deleted. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:53, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cvio1

Ancient warning template, apparently not used Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cove Rangers F.C.

Unused, too few links to be used Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Copyrighth

Unused and ancient Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cornish (UK) elections

Unused, almost all redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:27, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Genesis Healthcare Locations

Non-needed template with no links to medical centers. Tinton5 (talk) 04:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EW50

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by PhilKnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:03, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Broken and unused; creates an external link within the article body which is a no-no. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I made this template 11 years ago to speed up the process of updating articles, and I think it was all subst'd. Besides, Wikipedia was a very different place back then.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:ESPN Rhode Island

Unused, WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.These are the only 2 sports stations in Rhode Island & both are ESPN affiliates anyway.Stereorock (talk) 20:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
AddendumYes, both R.I. sports stations are ESPN now, but that may not always be the case. Another station may flip to Fox Sports Radio, for example, making the redirect wrong.Stereorock (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
a redirect doesn't always mean "equal to", it frequently means "subset of". it's astonishing that you have never seen a redirect after a merger. a redirect also allows you to revive a template without going through WP:DRV or WP:REFUND. of course, once ESPN flips from a sports network, we will have to fix everything. Frietjes (talk) 21:41, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ESPN Vermont

Unused, WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dmoz request

Unused, DMOZ is defunct Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dmoz

DMOZ is defunct, so this link is no longer valid. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Diaspora-AC

Unused, WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Differential equations topics

Unused and overly sprawling navbox Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Neilgorsuchopinions

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G6 by Deb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only used in two articles... fails WP:EXISTING. Also, the template was nominated May 5, 2017 for deletion and deleted per decision on May 13. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 02:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: As an Associate Justice, Justice Gorsuch will be writing opinions and, I thought, should have an opinions template like his eight colleagues. (The part about his Court of Appeals opinions was not added by me, which I gather is why the template has been nominated. Other Justices' templates have a similar bevy of red links to their lower-court opinions.) Aaronjbaylis (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Aaronjbaylis, it seems pointless to delete this now only to recreate it again after October when we have a second term list for him (and a third, and a fourth...remember, it's a lifetime appointment...). The COA redlinks should eventually be filled in, though that hasn't yet been accomplished for any other justice yet either. If everyone thinks that's an issue for now that section can just be commented out in the template until the content is there. postdlf (talk) 19:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose of a navbox is to NAVigate, which right now it doesn't. When there are enough links in the box where it can navigate, then it can be refunded. It was deleted for a reason in May. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 05:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But here we have a template that we know is going to expand. It exists now, so that infrastructure we know will be needed is there for the future addition of links and deleting it now just means wasted time recreating it later. WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY and WP:IAR would seem to be on point here if nothing else, because nothing would be accomplished by deletion now. postdlf (talk) 18:23, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:SumatraMegathrust

Unnecessary and unused for the last three years. It was superseded by {{Earthquakes in Indonesia}} in June 2014. Dawnseeker2000 02:06, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:JavaMegathrust

Unnecessary and unused for the last three years. It was superseded by {{Earthquakes in Indonesia}} in June 2014. Dawnseeker2000 02:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Disambiguation user

Unused, unlikely to be used Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deadliest earthquakes by US state

Unused table, no foreseeable use Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete – This odd template was created nine years ago by an inexperienced editor (someone with 47 live edits over the course of 10 years). The template is linked from an equally odd disambiguation page (Deadly earthquakes). I've been very active with WP:Earthquakes for the past five years and I don't use either of these items. Dawnseeker2000 02:02, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or convert into actual page: This shows unique information of the deadliest earthquakes in each state. It should either be kept as a template or converted into an actual page, with a page title like "List of deadliest earthquakes by U.S. state" or similar title. If the latter choice is taken, it should be properly sourced. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 02:33, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Earthquakes has around 150 lists as it is and set-matching lists are continuing to be created regularly. I would argue that we probably don't need another non-standard (one off) list when only 1/5 of US states have earthquake-related deaths. Dawnseeker2000 03:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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