User talk:Sir Joseph

This is Sir Joseph's talk page, where you can send him messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13: 30 days

If I have left you a message: please answer on your talk page, as I am watching it. If I have been active and have not yet responded, please place {{Talkback|your username}} on my page as I may have missed your response.
If you leave me a message: I will answer on my talk page, so please add it to your watchlist.
Please click here to leave me a new message.

Please comment on Talk:Bob Stoops

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Bob Stoops. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Fabolous

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Fabolous. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:George Harrison

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:George Harrison. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:James Jamerson

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:James Jamerson. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Isaac Newton in popular culture

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Isaac Newton in popular culture. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Syria

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Syria. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You said I recently edited an Arab-Israeli conflict...

You said I recently edited an Arab-Israeli conflict page which is untrue, please show me which article it was. I only edited the Palestinian universities to improve their location. This does not fall under the Arab-Israeli conflict Winsocker (talk) 13:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

it does. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 14:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Winsocker: On the one hand, you passed the threshold of extended confirmed earlier today, so in that respect you are certainly now eligible to edit in the ARBPIA area. That said, the edits you made on the article, in replacing "Palestinian territories" with "State of Palestine", placed those edits squarely within the conflict area. There was not really any ambiguity in the locations within those articles, so it's not as if they exactly corrected a problem. (For example, it's not as if the articles said "Syria", and you then changed them to "Palestine".) And if you had changed their location from "6th Street" to "7th Street" within the same town, without changing "Palestinian territories" to "State of Palestine", nobody would have taken that to be an edit falling under the Arab-Israeli conflict. (Or, if Sir Joseph had, I would have told him to zip it.) But the edit you made was exactly the kind of edit that places an otherwise potentially benign article directly in the conflict zone. Please don't try to play naive on this. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenJ81: The reason why I changed "Palestinian territories to" "State of Palestine" is because the locations are referring to the actual country itself (reminder that majority of nations in the UN do recognize Palestine as sovereign). I dont seem to see the problem with this very small edit. It is a lot more accurately correct to use "State of Palestine" Winsocker (talk) 11:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Winsocker: Whether or not I agree with your assessment, I do understand your reasoning. My point, however, was that the characterization of Palestine as "state" or "territories" is a question that falls under ARBPIA. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenJ81: I can kind of seem why but the wording "territories" feels more like a geographical sense. I was changing it into the actual country it actually resides in. For example, the Indian territories in the United States. They count as basically seperate countries with their own governments & law (even US police cannot enter these territories without permission) but they are on "American" territories yet they are basically considered a new country. Winsocker (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Winsocker: I struck part of my first comment, as you clearly see yourself as having corrected a big problem. I don't agree. But my point in any event was really not that so much as the fact that such an edit does fall under ARBPIA. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:42, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenJ81: Big problem? I did not say that, read my statement again: "I don't seem to see the problem with this very small edit. It is a lot more accurately correct to use "State of Palestine". The whole point of going on Wikipedia is to read & add things accurately. When I edit those university pages, I was not under the impression it fell under ARBPIA (I did not get a warning for some reason unlike when I do on wiki pages that do involve the conflict). This seems to really constrain what actual Palestinians can edit their page which feel's extremely limited. Second, majority of the countries do see Palestine as sovereign, this is not an opinion, its a fact, so I am going with the majority here and not placing my own opinion or biased views. Winsocker (talk) 13:51, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]