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Arthur Harvey

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No indications of notability, no in-line references. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 23:43, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 23:43, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:SOLDIER and I'm not seeing anything that satisfies WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 07:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Plenty of indications of notability such as this. If inline citations are wanted then this is done by improving the article, not by deleting it, per WP:IMPERFECT and WP:ATD, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 11:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson: I see that the subject is mentioned in a book; I don’t see any obvious evidence of notability there. If I’m overlooking something, please let me know. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 15:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You can't see the wood for the trees. Being written about in detail in a good source like a book is what we mean by notability. It doesn't matter what the details are. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I could find in any Sunday issue of The New York Times a richer and more detailed piece of writing on a person who wouldn’t be considered notable by current community-accepted criteria. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 16:44, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Detailed coverage in the NYT would usually be accepted as reasonable evidence of notability. JamesLucas seems to have participated in few AfDs and this may explain their different perception. My !vote stands. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the reasons given of those who want to have this article kept. Davidgoodheart (talk) 09:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above. It seems a fairly marginal case, but I think the coverage of his oil activities probably does meet WP:GNG. He seems to have a public park named after him too. —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Brigade Piron: Some notability debates are quickly determined by the existence of references, but this is one where I think it pays to read the content. It’s not a public park, it’s a real estate development named Harvey Park that was built on the land he was forced to divest when his other businesses failed. Currently that development exists on Wikipedia as a red link in the list of neighborhoods in Denver § Southwest. If that link were ever to turn blue, Arthur Harvey would merit a sentence or two in the neighborhood article. But he falls far short of the mark of notability for a dedicated bio. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 20:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE: fails BASIC and barely meets MILPERSON. The Ace in Spades (talk) 11:40, 15 December 2020 (UTC) — The Ace in Spades (talk • contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Waskerton (talk • contribs). [reply]
DELETE: Notable for precisely what? Did Harvey perform a notable act in WWI? Did he earn any distinguishable military awards in either World War? Any lifetime achievements beyond discovering several oil fields? (Possibly worthy of a brief mention in a subsection upon some oil-related Wiki. page but not his own.) Harvey led an impressive life, but, in my own humble opinion, what sets him above the canopy above any soldier, or entrepreneur?--Kieronoldham (talk) 05:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I agree that it fails WP:SOLDIER, but he seems notable enough as a businessman. The article needs a cleanup and inline citations, but people who have been the subjects of books are reasonably notable. Dimadick (talk) 08:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]