Talk:Bilal Hassani
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Does Hassani use she/her pronouns?
I noticed the article gave Hassani she/her pronouns, but media sources cited seem to refer to them as he/him. Is there a source for Hassani using she/her pronouns?
Onehitwander (talk) 23:34, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- As of the current revision only the section "Beginning of musical career (2015–2018)" uses she, and the rest of the article uses he. That section discusses events that overlap in time with others where he is used, e.g. "He obtained his literary baccalaureate in 2017". So the article is a mess and needs cleanup. Beorhtwulf (talk) 14:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- On his own social media Hassani uses il/son (he/his) when doing annoncements in third person, not elle/sa (she/her). He also made a video answering questions, in which he declared not going to transition anytime. If i understood it right he also said not to be transgender (He was a little bit too fast for my capability to understand french there to be sure). So by all means the pronouns to usa are he/his. Gehenna1510 (talk) 16:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Pronouns, again - come on, people, we're better than this
I have brought all pronouns used to refer to Hassani in line with each other (I believe the citation is MOS:GENDERID. The pronoun used most frequently was already she/her, so I have changed every pronoun used to refer to Hassani to she/her. By all means, if this is not the correct pronoun to use for whatever reason, feel free to post about it on the talk page, however edit warring hasn't led to anything meaningful. Toffeenix (talk) 18:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am once again asking people to pick one set of pronouns and stick to them.Toffeenix (talk) 21:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Checked Bilal Hassani’s Instagram account - and whomever is writing the posts uses male pronouns constantly. The French version of this article also uses male pronouns. I think the pronouns should be reverted. Fishhook (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
But then the instagram Bio lists the pronouns as she/he. Fishhook (talk) 21:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Pronouns, revisited
As a French person, I was surprised to see Bilal referred to with she/her pronouns. In the French press, he is exclusively referred to as he/him. This is also the case of his French Wikipedia article, which is locked. I could not find a single French reference using she/her. He is gay and feminine, that's all.
Just one example among a hundred: https://www.marieclaire.fr/coming-out-bilal-hassani,1450978.asp
I believe that using she/her is a mistake. It is more confusing than anything. I will fix it in a couple of days unless someone objects with good references (preferrably in French). I feel like using she/her is incorrect, as no one in France refers to him (!) this way.
Note: his Instagram mentions she/he (not she/her!), so it is certainly appropriate to use he/him here (https://www.instagram.com/iambilalhassani/reels/). 2A02:8109:AA11:6D00:C937:3958:ED6C:F4A8 (talk) 16:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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