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American Civil War locations

Hello American Civil War friends! Just wanted to let you know that the Walter Johnson's River of Dark Dreams has prompted an interest in the pre-Civil War landscape of the lower Mississippi. Wanted to flag some recently developed articles on minor boat landings (all now washed away by the River) that could use your expertise on ACW military movements; additional categories, see also, links, and content very welcome!

• Skipwith's Landing, Mississippi
• Goodrich's Landing, Louisiana
• Milliken's Bend, Louisiana
• Columbia, Arkansas
• Gaines Landing, Arkansas

Thanks in advance for any further development! Best, jengod (talk) 04:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

See Battle of Goodrich's Landing and Battle of Milliken's Bend. The largest amphibious operation prior to D-Day was made at Bruinsburg, Mississippi by General Grant's forces leading to the Battle of Port Gibson and the Vicksburg campaign. The semi-retired, but still somewhat active, Hog Farm is the most knowledgeable editor whom I am aware of on the Western Theater and the Vicksburg campaign in particular. Donner60 (talk) 10:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Jengod - did your sources happen to have anything for New Carthage, Louisiana? That's another pesky ACE site redlink. Hog Farm _Talk 01:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

On it. :) jengod (talk) 01:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Seeking Third Opinions on Sihang Warehouse

I opened a RfC regarding English sources on the participating Japanese forces during the Defense of Sihang Warehouse but have yet to hear any input. In short the Japanese order of battle in English sources is contradicted by Japanese sources, including official military histories, but an editor has been arguing in favor of keeping the evidently wrong claims from English sources in favor of using Japanese ones. I have also written up a summary of Japanese participating forces according to a variety of Japanese sources on the article's talk page. I would really appreciate any input on the matter, especially from those who can read Japanese. Adachi1939 (talk) 01:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I would be surprised if you find many users who can read Japanese who are not listed on the page Wikipedia:Translators available#Japanese-to-English. Note that the Japanese list has sub-categories of years active but at least some of those listed for years after 2017 are still active. Perhaps there are others but I don't know if there is a way to find them if they have not listed themselves on the linked page. I suspect at least some of the limited number users who can read Japanese don't watch the noticeboard. For what it is worth. Perhaps a few may read your post here, however. Donner60 (talk) 10:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

IP editor re-writing Operation Market Garden

An IP-editor is making assertions about the reliability of a source at Operation Market Garden and is re-writing the article to suit this assertion. Given that he/she hasn't shown any proof of this, I have ask the IP not to edit the article but discuss on the talk page. It would be really helpful if someone more experience with WW2 matters than me could take a look and intervene. Happy to be told I'm wrong if that's the case. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

There were references in his edits, yet you decided to revert his changes.

You didn’t “ask the IP not to edit”, you canned them snd closed the page temporarily.

Op MG is surrounded by multiple myths instigated by Cornelius Ryan, that even his own publicly accessible archive proves were incorrect.

You even attacked me in the past for saying similar things on the talk pages, claiming that Ryan is an acceptable source, and was it you who said the same to me about Ambrose?

At some point I will significantly alter the article with the accurate information our team has built up, all suitably referenced. Enderwigginau (talk) 06:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

And the reference to "our team" would indicate you may be attempting to assert some kind of ownership over the article. That's not acceptable behavior, either. Intothatdarkness 16:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect, the reference to “our team” refers to a number of researchers specifically working on MG outside Wikipedia.

IWM and others are slowly revising their information due to what we are providing.

So, no, I don’t “own” anything, but defending those attacking the introduction of a more correct and accurate article says a lot.

Considering the references included in the edits were Pollussen and Wilmot, there is simply no reason to remove them when they were adequately referenced and factually accurate.

Gatekeeping an article implies believing ownership exists. Enderwigginau (talk) 00:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Casting aspersions does little to advance your case. I was commenting on your tone, which feels rather aggressive to an observer and not especially collaborative, and have no stake in this article at all. And from my vantage point it feels rather like you simply want to switch gatekeepers (assuming one exists in the first place). But as this behavior seems par for the course these days, please do carry on. Intothatdarkness 13:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Gatekeeping of articles

I have noticed over the last twelve months a number of instances of gatekeeping on military history articles, with certain editors reverting changes even when suitably referenced, removing comments from talk pages, blocking and submitting users for review, and temporarily closing edits. What is the view of those here regarding this type of behaviour? Enderwigginau (talk) 06:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Enderwigginau Ditto. I noticed this exact same behavior. Have you noticed it to be one repeated offender or many different people? Alexysun (talk) 07:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I have a fair few articles on watch but I haven't noticed any chicanery. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 08:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Multiple but some multiple times.

Not outing anyone at this point. Enderwigginau (talk) 08:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Please retract your threat of WP:outing. There is no place for harrassment here.Nigel Ish (talk) 08:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

You are deliberately stirring the pot now, Nigel Ish. No-one threatened to WP:OUT anyone in the WP sense, Enderwigginay clearly meant 'not going to name names at this point. ——Serial Number 54129 10:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion unwatched - clearly I am not welcome at this discussion.Nigel Ish (talk) 11:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Enderwigginau @Alexysun thanks for bringing some attention to this. unfortunately yes, i've dealt with my share of these folks. some people just take wikipedia editing way too close to heart, it's honestly a bit sad to watch. Wahreit (talk) 01:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I presume you are referring to my recent actions at Operation Market Garden and your subsequent allegations on the article's talk page? I'll repeat what I just posted there, which is "As for your allegations of "gatekeeping", what has happened is nothing like the unacceptable behaviour set out in WP:OWN. Instead it has been about reverting damage to the article caused by a block-evading sockpuppet. Nobody else's contributions have been challenged, so I fail to see how that is "gatekeeping" or ownership behaviour. I would encourage you to read WP:AGF before making further comment." 10mmsocket (talk) 11:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Western Front tactics, 1917

Western Front tactics, 1917 Anyone mind me removing the banner? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 14:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 65th Infantry Regiment (United States)

65th Infantry Regiment (United States) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

De-capitalisation of all terms and article names

Yet again, over at Talk:All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment this time. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Name of the 1854–1856 Guangdong Uprising

Why is the 1854–1856 uprising referred to as the 'Red Turban Rebellion' when the Chinese name '广东洪兵起义' (Guangdong Hongbing Qiyi) makes no mention of 'Red Turbans,' and it is unrelated to the Red Turban Rebellion of the 1300s? Alexysun (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Yevgeny Khaldei photo archives published

The World War II photo archives of the famed Soviet photographer Yevgeny Khaldei, best known for his photograph of soldiers raising the Soviet flag on the Reichstag, have been published on russiainphoto.ru in 1024px resolution. Just for 1945 alone there are 1,882 photographs. The photos are all now in public domain since copyright of photographers who worked for TASS news agency during World War II has expired. These photographs can greatly improve the coverage of the Eastern Front, and even include images that would never have been published in the Soviet Union, for example this photograph of soldiers assisting a wounded comrade. Fair warning that the collection includes many images of corpses. Kges1901 (talk) 18:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

A fight over at Battle of Buena Vista

Can one of you have a look? I think I'm about to block the edit-warring IP, but the sourcing isn't all that great (and needs formatting and cleanup--my antediluvian opinion is that the cleaner and stronger something is, the less likely it is to turn into a battleground). Judging from the talk page the matter has been contentious for a decade and a half, but I see no solid discussion and not much of a consensus. Your help is appreciated. Drmies (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Al-Shabaab (Mozambique)#Requested move 25 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Al-Shabaab (Mozambique)#Requested move 25 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Russian ground forces equipment losses in Ukraine

There have been recent changes to List of equipment of the Russian Ground Forces which have updated Russian equipment numbers to the 2024 Military Balance figures and deleted all information related to Russian losses in the Ukraine war. Where and how should Russian equipment losses in Ukraine be recorded? Mztourist (talk) 03:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Editors are invited to contribute their views at the talkpage discussion now underway at the bottom of Talk:List of equipment of the Russian Ground Forces. Regards to all Buckshot06 (talk) 17:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)