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:The picture appears on CrimeLibrary [http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/bell/gallery_14.html], where it says she's 10 in that picture. I'll fix that. [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 13:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
:The picture appears on CrimeLibrary [http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/bell/gallery_14.html], where it says she's 10 in that picture. I'll fix that. [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 13:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
::Now the picture says "age 10, at the time of the murders" and the article summary says she was age 11 at the time of the murders. Which is it? [[User:68.255.60.58|68.255.60.58]] 22:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
::Now the picture says "age 10, at the time of the murders" and the article summary says she was age 11 at the time of the murders. Which is it? [[User:68.255.60.58|68.255.60.58]] 22:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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==Dispute Use of Description "Serial Killer"==
Based on the definition of [[serial killer]] on Wikipedia, Mary Bell does not merit inclusion in that category of murderer.

That article defines a serial killer as "someone who commits '''three or more murders''' over an extended period of time with cooling-off periods in between. In between their crimes, they appear to be quite normal, a state which Hervey Cleckley and Robert Hare call the 'mask of sanity.' There is often — but not always — a sexual element to the murders." (My emphasis.)

Mary was convicted of two murders, which does not meet the definition. Therefore, I suggest she be removed from the serial killer category. [[User:Marklemagne|Marklemagne]] 05:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

From the latest revision of the above mentioned article: ''Other sources define the term as "a series of '''two or more murders''', committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender acting alone" or, including the vital characteristics, a minimum of at least two murders.'' Mary Bell could (should) then again be classified as a serial killer? [[User:PsychoticInq|PsychoticInq]] ([[User talk:PsychoticInq|talk]]) 09:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 06:13, 2 May 2021

Archive 1

Changed to deceased for no reason?

I came upon this article while researching Bell's case, and thought it quite an odd coincidence that she had apparently died today. After searching for any news of her death or obituaries, and finding nothing, I restored her status as living for the time being. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.91.239.10 (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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I wikified Brian Howe, but it refers to the wrong one. How do I correct? --Sgeo | Talk 02:18, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)

Should the " Child Killers say the darnedest things:Mary Bell, 2 comics about the killings" link be deleted? It seems to me to be gratuitous and pointless? Albatross2147 13:15, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Missing details?

It appears that there are significant facts missing from this article. The article mentions Mary and her daughter being protected upon release from jail, yet there is no prior mention of a daughter. I think this needs to be looked at - I have no idea how to 'flag' an article, but in general it seems quite jumpy and is missing pieces, so it could do with a good lookover. Ktbaby 13:50, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree ktbaby. i myself came to the talk page after reading about her previously unmentioned daughter. where did she find the time in jail to have sex and get pregnant? maybe she was raped by a guard.. this missing information needs to be addressed. i might do it myself later if i have the time Lue3378 17:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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If Mary Bell was ten at the time of the murders according to the article summary, how can the main picture also be of her at the time of the murders if the picture is described as her at eleven years of age?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.237.5 (talk) 20:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The picture appears on CrimeLibrary [1], where it says she's 10 in that picture. I'll fix that. grendel|khan 13:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Now the picture says "age 10, at the time of the murders" and the article summary says she was age 11 at the time of the murders. Which is it? 68.255.60.58 22:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Dispute Use of Description "Serial Killer"

Based on the definition of serial killer on Wikipedia, Mary Bell does not merit inclusion in that category of murderer.

That article defines a serial killer as "someone who commits three or more murders over an extended period of time with cooling-off periods in between. In between their crimes, they appear to be quite normal, a state which Hervey Cleckley and Robert Hare call the 'mask of sanity.' There is often — but not always — a sexual element to the murders." (My emphasis.)

Mary was convicted of two murders, which does not meet the definition. Therefore, I suggest she be removed from the serial killer category. Marklemagne 05:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

From the latest revision of the above mentioned article: Other sources define the term as "a series of two or more murders, committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender acting alone" or, including the vital characteristics, a minimum of at least two murders. Mary Bell could (should) then again be classified as a serial killer? PsychoticInq (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)