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RfC: This war has been declared over by Wikipedia editors. Without a single reference saying so...

So some editors decided that this war has "ended" because there is a ceasefire. Not a single reference or media outlet what so ever has been provided which explicitly states that this war is over. Wikipedia editors (even with consensus) cannot end an entire war... Please share your opinions. Sam32421 (talk) 00:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The war is over because a permanent ceasefire between the two sides was ratified on 23 October 2020, and an interim Unity government was formed on 10 March 2021. Along with that, nation wide elections are set for December 2021 and not a lot of violence has happened since the ceasefire. Wowzers122 (talk) 02:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sam32421: Why is this any different then the Korean War which "ended" with an Armistice? --Steamboat2020 (talk) 05:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Steamboat2020: Read the title of the RfC? Says no references. There are thousands of journals, officials and most importantly references that say "the Korean war is over". In here, there is not a single reference. Sam32421 (talk) 18:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sam32421: my point was that at some point after the fighting stops a war is over by default. I don't know if several months are sufficient but if they are then the refernces to the fighting having ended are also references to the end of the war!--Steamboat2020 (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Important comment by the nominator Both respondents are not responding to the RfC's topic. Which is about the no references that declare the war over, respondents have repeated their own arguments on why they believe the war is over, without a single reference explicitly saying so. Wikipedia is not built on arguments, please read the entire WP:OR article. Sam32421 (talk) 18:22, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded to the nominator's concerns-see above--Steamboat2020 (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I came to the article just as a reader to get some information, and I do feel some astonishment at the apparent confidence (and it is unsourced confidence) that Wikipedia considers this civil war is "over". 78.149.46.96 (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 6 August 2023

It has been proposed in this section that Libyan civil war (2014–2020) be renamed and moved to Libyan Civil War (2014–2020).

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Second Libyan Civil War → Libyan Civil War (2014–2020) – Despite having more results compared to how many results the First Libyan Civil War has, still, most sources do not include “second” in the title. ~~WikipedianRevolutionary (talk)~~ 19:41, 6 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 08:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator above was blocked as a sockpuppet. S.L. 18:04, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support: The nomenclature of "first" and "second" here is an editorial deployment on Wikipedia, but has little currency in the actual literature. The "first" war, as it were, is actually generally referred to as the "17 February Revolution", not as a civil war at all. Revolutions, by their nature, often entail a certain degree of civil conflict - take for example the French revolution - but this does not subsume all other meanings or necessitate a 'civil war' label. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:37, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

("Libyan civil war" should be sentence case, i.e. lower case civil war.) Iskandar323 (talk) 14:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: requesting more comments based on policy and evidence, also see Talk:First Libyan Civil War#Requested move 17 July 2023 — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 08:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The article should never have been moved to this title in the first place. "Second" isn't strongly associated with this conflict to make a COMMONNAME argument so it's better to use something neutral and non-controversial such as dates. SnowFire (talk) 03:34, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Libyan civil war (2014–2020) - Most sources do not capitalize c and w in the civil war word group.

2A01:CB1D:636:9B00:290B:FD8A:D638:8FEB (talk) 14:28, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]