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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Fork99 (talk | contribs) at 07:35, 3 September 2023 (→‎Multiple messages received about your work as an AfC reviewer: Closing discussion as moved to WP:ANI). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Multiple messages received about your work as an AfC reviewer

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
moved to WP:ANI#User:OlifanofmrTennant's review history at Articles for Creation. Fork99 (talk) 07:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I appreciate your work you've done to help new editors create new articles and expand Wikipedia. However, you've received multiple messages in the span of the past two-three days informing you of mistakes that you have made, with little to no explanation of why these occurred. I note that you were accepted by @Primefac as an AfC reviewer on 23 August 2023 in this diff on a probationary basis. It would good if you could please explain your mistakes from your perspective.

Links to messages left on your talk page in chronological order:

Thank you, Fork99 (talk) 05:08, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For the first one I hadnt relised that it was stolen as I didnt notice that there was another article.
For the second one was just poor wording on my part.
For the third I was trying to get through more AfC submittions that were 20 days old and was tired. I see that the issues were fixed and I was in the process of accepting it as this was happening.
For the fourth and fifth I explained on that talk page which I will link here. :D OLI 05:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What can I do to ensure that these problems dont reappear so I can move on from probationary :D OLI 05:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In relation to third, I find your reasoning a bit strenuous. I sent you the message on your user talk page at 22:09 UK Time. You then accepted the article at 06:20. This is NOT 'in the process of accepting it as this was happening' - RichT|C|E-Mail 06:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I mixed up what meant to say was as that specific thread was going on. I was working on accepting it before I got this notification :D OLI 06:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have adhd sometimes brain no-worky but yeah I was doing it when Fork99 sent their message. :D OLI 06:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have removed (UTC) from some timestamps in my original post as it made the software think that they were signatures, but they're not. Fork99 (talk) 06:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've had my first article declined by this user due to the subject band or topic not being notorious, when in reality this is a band that has been touring and influencing Latin rock bands for more than 20 years. Also I was asked (and I paraphrase) the band does not have a page so why would it have an article for an album. They also have a page in Spanish and another one in French. Seems pretty notable to me... Hammsilv (talk) 06:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Youre ignoring problems with the article. The informal tone "the album's popularity exposed, and is still exposing", use of external links in the article, bad uses of wikilinks, and the lack of reception or devolplement information. You're trying to kick me while I'm down, in hopes of getting your poorly constructed draft published. :D OLI :D OLI 06:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Still doesn't explain the use of the Reject button... yes, the draft has issues but that doesn't make it flat out rejectable - RichT|C|E-Mail 06:59, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
if that's what you think then you have bigger issues that you need to work on. Furtermore, there was no mention of anything about these issues in your previous message. What's more, I don't know you to try to "kick you while you're down". However, your communication tone evidently shows frustration with other problems you have.
Good luck. Hammsilv (talk) 07:00, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was under the impression that the band didnt have a page. I was checking my web browser history and when looking for the page I looked for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BohemiaSuburbana, exluding the space between the words. :D OLI 07:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also 'the lack of reception or development information'... this is not a requirement, as long as it passes the notability requirement - RichT|C|E-Mail 07:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well those are the primary ways of finding a topic notable. If nobody has reviewed a peice of media then likely it isnt notable. :D OLI 07:04, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll gladly fix errors as pointed out - the original message had two issues that where nor really issues. That was my whole position. Hammsilv (talk) 07:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, this statement makes me see that you have no WP:CLUE... you really need to read WP:N - RichT|C|E-Mail 07:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For clarity, @Hammsilv is referring to their draft article at Draft:Mil Palabras con sus Dientes, and the band does have an English Wikipedia article at Bohemia Suburbana. @OlifanofmrTennant: you should use the search function at the top right corner of every Wikipedia page to search for things like this, in case of user error. The tool will try to find relevant articles for you. You should also review new/draft articles not just at face value but with your own research as well. Fork99 (talk) 07:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have read notability and it doenst state the particular way but in most articles for media they have critical reception and developlement information. I can find articles where their removal was due to lack of devolpement info. I've had articles removed for this reason. :D OLI 07:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Going Rogue (The Flash) was removed for not meeting WP:GNG. What's Past Is Prologue (The Flash) wasn't the difference between the two is Going Rouge didnt have development information :D OLI 07:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rich, my apologies if my reply was not clear or I placed it in the wrong thread. I wrote the article and I was stating I will fix the errors. Oli's original message in my inbox made no mention of the rest of the issues that were exposed here. They were pointing out the band had no page which they do have 3 and that they were not notorious which they are. I will correct the rest of the errors as you point them out.
Thank you. Hammsilv (talk) 07:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have taken this discussion to WP:ANI. No further comments should be made to this section. Fork99 (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm considering taking this to WP:ANI, you clearly need to work on your experience on editing Wikipedia in order to better understand Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Also, you should use the search button in the top right corner of every Wikipedia page, as the search function tries to fix up user errors and possible other relevant articles that the user might be looking for. Fork99 (talk) 07:04, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know I reviewed a bunch of other submissions that night and I was pretty tired. I know that isnt an exuse but I can assure you that I will be rereading the guide lines as I feel as I have missed some things. :D OLI 07:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All editors in this discussion are reminded to please follow talk page guidelines at WP:TALK, and use indenting and outdenting where appropriate. This is to maintain the discussion's readability and logic. Fork99 (talk) 07:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have taken this discussion to WP:ANI. No further comments should be made at this discussion. Fork99 (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are a couple of more drafts you reviewed that have questionable decline rationales IMO:

Draft:The Lower Couffo Valley, Côtiere Lagoon, Chenal Aho, Lake Ahémé Ramsar Site- you provide no valid decline rationale (not even a templated one on failures of N or V), only stating rework the lead.
Draft:128th Field Artillery Regiment (United States)- again, you note Cites same thing twice. It additoanly relies hevaly on one source per paragraph. Citing the same thing twice is an extremely minor issue and not valid decline rationale, and one inline source per paragraph is a completely acceptable unless the article has significant actual V issues that would mandate inline citations.
Draft:Olu Akanmu- does not even have any valid decline rationale, and just states that There are six citations under Exit from Opay Nigeria. You claimed that the reactions were mixed. Expand on that, write out what the articles claim. While a correct point, it fails to provide an actual decline reason.

Would appreciate if you can comment on these. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 07:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@VickKiang: please continue all further discussion at WP:ANI. Fork99 (talk) 07:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Fork99 (talk) 07:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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