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"most densely populated municipality in North America" ?
[edit]Is that correct? Any outside citations? Manhattan has a density of 66,940.1/mi², compared to 56,012.0/mi² for Guttenberg. Manhattan is New York County, though, and may not be considered a municipality though. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 01:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've had an issue with the statement since I first saw it. I've been looking for a reliable source that ranks municipalities by density and I have never been able to find one. Alansohn 07:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- For the record: Most densely populated CDP is Friendship Village, Maryland at 81,991.667 persons/sq mi; most densely populated "town" (as opposed to "city") is Guttenberg, New Jersey at 56,012.042 persons/sq mi; most densely populated "city" as such is Union City, New Jersey at 52,977.850 persons/sq mi; most densely populated county/(borough) is New York County, New York (Manhattan) at 66,940.075 persons/sq mi.
- All "places" (cities, towns, villages, CDPs, etc.) in U.S. (United States Census, 2000) over 20,000 persons/sq mi in descending order, computed by land area only (no water): 1. Friendship Village, Maryland; 2. Guttenberg, New Jersey; 3. Union City, New Jersey; 4. West New York, New Jersey (town, 44,995.1075 persons/sq mi); 5. Hoboken, New Jersey (city, 30,239.208/sq mi); 6. New York, New York (city, 26,402.885/sq mi); 7. Buena Vista, Santa Clara County, California (CDP, 24,099.096/sq mi); 8. Maywood, California (city, 23,887.192/sq mi); 9. Cliffside Park, New Jersey (borough, 23,847.667/sq mi); 10. East Newark, New Jersey (borough, 23,329.955/sq mi); 11. Bellerose Terrace, New York (CDP, 22,212.167/sq mi); 12. Walnut Park, California (CDP, 21,919.019/sq mi); 13. Passaic, New Jersey (city, 21,804.746/sq mi); 14. Cudahy, California (city, 21,627.704/sq mi); 15. Lennox, California (CDP, 21,257.540/sq mi); 16. Great Neck Plaza, New York (village, 20,853.408/sq mi); 17. Irvington, New Jersey (CDP, 20,528.296/sq mi); 18. North Bay Village, Florida (city, 20,267.135/sq mi); 19. Huntington Park, California (city, 20,252.377/sq mi).
- All of this data can be gotten at the United States Census Bureau website. Unfortunately, I had to get each state separately, so you will have to download a bunch of files and then collate them into a single spreadsheet. Here is the file for the first state (Alabama): [1] I don't have the time to list the other 50 files separately. You will have to find them yourself (They are at similar addresses.) Backspace 20:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- Of note in the preceding list is that almost all are suburbs of New York City or Los Angeles. The only exceptions are one suburb of Washington, one suburb of San Jose, one suburb of Miami, and New York City itself. Backspace 22:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- It might be easier to find those files mentioned if you just went to [2] Backspace 23:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- As for Canada, well, there really aren't many extremely densely populated places in the country at all. About the only place to compare with the above would be Notre-Dame-des-Anges, Quebec, which had a 2006 census population of 437 living on 0.0358 km² of land for a population density of 31,615.218/sq mi. The only other cities to even break the 10,000/sq mi mark would be, in declining order, Westmount, Quebec at 13,189.677/sq mi; Vancouver at 13,050.966/sq mi; Côte-Saint-Luc, Quebec at 11,696.468/sq mi; Montréal at 11,496.103/sq mi; Toronto at 10,288.340/sq mi; Victoria, British Columbia at 10,270.611/sq mi; and Hampstead, Quebec at 10,123.789/sq mi. As for Mexico, I think that the cities of Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Chimalhuacán, Ecatepec de Morelos, Guadalajara, Tultitlán, and Tlalnepantla de Baz all exceed the 20,000 persons/sq mi mark. Mexico City as a whole is only in the 15,000/sq mi range, although there are boroughs that have a much higher density. Backspace 21:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I will change densest in North America to densest in United States. We have no source that supports the statement directly, and the statistical data is at best iffy. Alansohn 15:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- As for Canada, well, there really aren't many extremely densely populated places in the country at all. About the only place to compare with the above would be Notre-Dame-des-Anges, Quebec, which had a 2006 census population of 437 living on 0.0358 km² of land for a population density of 31,615.218/sq mi. The only other cities to even break the 10,000/sq mi mark would be, in declining order, Westmount, Quebec at 13,189.677/sq mi; Vancouver at 13,050.966/sq mi; Côte-Saint-Luc, Quebec at 11,696.468/sq mi; Montréal at 11,496.103/sq mi; Toronto at 10,288.340/sq mi; Victoria, British Columbia at 10,270.611/sq mi; and Hampstead, Quebec at 10,123.789/sq mi. As for Mexico, I think that the cities of Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Chimalhuacán, Ecatepec de Morelos, Guadalajara, Tultitlán, and Tlalnepantla de Baz all exceed the 20,000 persons/sq mi mark. Mexico City as a whole is only in the 15,000/sq mi range, although there are boroughs that have a much higher density. Backspace 21:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Name
[edit]Where does the name "Guttenberg" come from? I wonder whether it has anything to do with Guttenberg, Bavaria and/or the House of Guttenberg? --slg (talk) 13:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- The town was first developed in the late 19th century by an association of private landowners, possibly through the purchase of shares as had nearby Union Hill, who were German immigrants. It's likely to have been inspired by any number of persons or places in the old world, but to date have not come across a ref that states the source of the name.Djflem (talk) 11:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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