Kevin Rudd is currently a politics and government good article nominee. Nominated by DTH89 (talk) at 12:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dear Wikipedia Team, I'd like to request that 'Kevin Rudd in August 2019 proclaimed himself the handball king and signed thousdands of hanballs' should be added to Rudd's wikipedia page. This is backed by the following links:
The official portrait we have been using originates on the Parliament website here. If anybody thinks it might be sourced from some other body than Parliament please note where and why but it seems unlikely that another department would take an official portrait. That page has a link to site-wide copyright information which includes these words:
With the exception of the Commonwealth Coat of Arms and where otherwise noted, all material presented on this website is provided under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Australia licence.
There's quite a few photos of diplomats and foreign affairs ministers on Commons sourced from the DFAT site, which is pretty unequivocal that content on the site is CC-BY "except where otherwise stated". This is in contrast to the NAA site whose statement is pretty vague and ambiguous, CC-BY unless supplied by a third party, but not clear what is from a third party. Presumably the parliament bio profile photos are taken/copyrighted by the Australian Government Photographic Service (AUSPIC), but it's not clear what the use and licensing arrangements are within government——can a government department commission photographs and then release them under an open licence? For example, DFAT has released numerous photos on Flickr which were taken by and credited to AUSPIC, but licensed as CC-BY 2.0 (this photo of Julia Gillard for example).--Canley (talk) 06:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Someone should please remove the part claiming he is "fluent in mandarin". I've heard him speak chinese. He sucks. Not just bad, *awful*. Seriously, his chinese sounds exactly like you'd expect an australian to sound, TERRIBLE. 203.160.80.238 (talk) 11:33, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think your tone matches Wikipedia's guidelines. I don't think that's true though, he has a fine accent, and it's debatable whether accent is even part of fluency. Commemorative1 (talk) 11:02, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's a terrific article. But that lead is very, very long.
Thanks for the note, I've condensed the lede as best I can while retaining key info. Let me know what you think and let me know if you have any other notes you would like me to address. DTH89 (talk·contribs) 10:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good stuff @DTH89. Keen to support you on the road to GA. Three things:
1. I believe there is only one former Aussie PM's article to achieve GA status, and that intro is about 550 words. I reckon you need to lose another 100. It really comes down to compressing stories. For example, mention the spill, but you don't need "His removal from office began a sequence of four subsequent prime ministers who would all be removed by their own parties before completing their full first term" - that can all go in the main body I reckon.
2. I like how you called it the lede. Old school.
3. Small thing, but I reckon the quality of the photos makes a big difference in making the leap to good. I would look at trimming some of the images, so it's much clearer who is in them.
Okay, so I think this is really improving. I'll just list some of the images that I think are on the better side, either because of their picture quality or because they they support the story in the article. The first four are shots that support the domestic politics material:
As Foreign Minister with Australian Army medical team in Pakistan, August 2010 [2]
With Kim Beazley in Melbourne and US diplomats, November 2010 [3]
Surprising shot with UK PM and Chancellor of Germany, February 2011 [4]
Hi, apologies for the delayed response. I have added some of the photos you have suggested where I could find an appropiate space for them. Let me know if there is anything else I can do, @MatthewDalhousie. DTH89 (talk) 07:48, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think those trimmed images look a whole lot better. I did remove one - from Chatham House - which I think is just a bad shot of the bloke. But that's compensated by the shots with Obama and others. Would be good to find an image of him early in his Parliamentary life, but I looked around and haven't found anything so far. Keep going! MatthewDalhousie (talk) 09:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DTH89, @MatthewDalhousie Just an observer here. I've noticed that this GA review has gone stagnant with no activity for over a month. I wouldn't want to see this article failed yet and think it's a perfect candidate for GA status, so here's a little bump as a reminder to hopefully get things back on track. I know there's no strict deadline for these reviews, but better safe than sorry! ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 02:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DTH89, I realise the towering irony of what I'm about to say, but when you look at how readable the article on Julia Gillard is (and we must remember, that article is assessed as a Good Article already) some of it comes from the interesting variations in the writing. However, in the current state of the Kevin Rudd article features repeated patterns of language. For example, 20 of the paragraphs begin with the word Rudd. Might have been more. I lost count. My point is, I'd be happy to try and find ways of keeping the writing fresh throughout the pice. But let me know if I'm barking up the wrong tree here. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]