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25th anniversary
[edit]To the person who wrote this:
``The Israeli news agency Ynet was forced to retract a faulty translation it gave of Mashaal's speech on this occasion. The Observer also had to apologise and retract as it had copied Ynet's erroneous translation.`` http://aa42.posterous.com/observer-newspaper-admits-to-using-bogus-tran
Please state your sources. I searched in ``The Observer`` for the retraction written by Stephen Pritchard and couldn't find it. The link you added is very opinionated and says that the Israeli News Ynet deliberately mistranslated. But the Iranian News agency “Fars” reported exactly the same thing. On Wiki we should write facts and not opinions.
Here is a link to Fars, the Iranian News agency and the article: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107125316 --Michal 03:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Did anyone watch this interview of Khaled Mashal?
[edit](Who removed this post and for what reason?
- This was no interview, but police interrogation! I kid you not!
- The British interviewer whose country was at the roots of the Palestinian problem,
- The same British interviewer whose country was very generous handing out Arab land,
- this same British interrogator had the arrogance to be so belligerent towards Mashal.
Khaled Mashal remained calm and composed, even sometimes smiling in the face of the interrogator. At one point, Mashal tells the interrogator his pain at how European Jewry dispossessed his people. The interrogator shouts. “Are you going to move forward or backward?” In other words, pretend the theft of Palestine did not happen. Please watch it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/3638925.stm
Theft of Palestine? There is no such thing as a Palestinian. It is a descriptive term for a people who exist as the martyrs of their Muslim brethren - they are an excuse for the corrupt leadership in the Arab world. The prophet Mohammed, pbuh, would never condone the attrocities that Muslims execute in the name of Allah. These are the same Muslims who expelled Jews from their homes in Arab lands where they had coexisted somewhat peacefully and happily for centuries.
I just read the contents of the interview with khaled Meshal, what in the world is wrong with this british mate?? I mean this is not the way you interview someone, an israeli journalist will be less biased, am just suprised KM didn't punch him in the nose, i know i would've.
A lot of people may think i am utterly stupid, but why in the HELL would you put this shit on here???? just wondering? use your brain!!
Merge from Third intifada
[edit]Please merge any relevant content from Third intifada per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Third intifada. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-22 13:53Z
- I've gone one better on this. Third intifada is deleted; there was significant rejection of that as an article linked with what it covered. The content has been moved to Talk:Khaled Mashal/Third intifada: any relevant merging should be done from there. Mangojuicetalk 14:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
George Clooney Photo
[edit]I suggest adding a photo. Here is [one:http://www.palestine-info.info/ar/DataFiles/Cache/TempImgs/2006/2/Images_hamas_leaders_mesh3al_300_0.jpg] Hamdan2 10:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- Qanon drops claims Khaled Mashal is the George Clooney with Obama on the boat. Yigal1 (talk) 05:46, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Link is dead. Drsruli (talk) 20:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Assasination Attempt
[edit]Was the injection into his neck as per the article in newsweek, or his ear? [1] Timb0h (talk) 12:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Also the CNN link is dead as a dodo...! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.173.114.226 (talk) 13:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
In exile?
[edit]Various news sources often refer to Mashal as the Hamas leader in exile? Does anyone know why exactly he's in exile? He seems to get along pretty well with Hamas in Gaza. Why doesn't he live there? --Lairor (talk) 04:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Controversial claim, bad citation
[edit]I have removed the following portion from the introduction of this article
on entire Israeli territory.<ref>http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3332929,00.html</ref>
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I have verified the citation source given and could not find any information to support the claim nor references to any such claim. Sufitul (talk) 13:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
References
"defamed"
[edit]i contest the use the word "defamed" in the first paragraph.
"defamed" denotes that he is infamous. Although he is responsible for terrorist attacks, he is also one of the leaders of this key poltical party. given wikipedia is supposed to be non-bias, i think the sentence should be rephrased.
he should be given more credit than this gives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domdrysdale (talk • contribs) 11:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Citation
[edit]Removed as citation doesn't refer to the sentence and it is Hamas not Mishal
The political party Hamas, along with Hezbollah have been characterized as terrorist organizations following US and European standings, and has officially declared a no-deal situation with the organizations. [1] .......Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 12:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
What is this
[edit]He abides Yasser Arafat, and Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah at stark downplay with Israeli politics.
Can anyone make sense out of the above?....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The media have indicated Gilad Shalit has been tortured in the darkness at his captive, being held at some unknown location. After Gilad Shalit radiated through the media, he was internationally identified as political figure to be played over with Israel for a prisoner exchange deal.
Can anyone make sense out of the above?....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 11:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you're right Askley. The grammer, syntax, and general flow of the article is very poor. The entire article and, in particular, this paragraph appear to be written by someone with very limited English skills. For example:
He abides Yasser Arafat, and Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah at stark downplay with Israeli politics. He is willing to allow several truce negotiations with the State of Israel, but vows to "carry on [the] struggle" if Israel refuses to allow a Palestinian state on the borders prior to the 1967 Six Day War. From the expelling of Hamas leadership from Jordan in August 1999 after the accession of King Abdullah II Mishal has made his home in Damascus.
So, as you can see, it's very difficult to determine the actual meaning of these words. They seem to be a mix of random words.
If I could edit the article (and I can't) I would change this to:
"He maintained a tenuous relationship with Yasser Arafat and currently courts the Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah in an attempt to show defiance of Israeli efforts to isolate Hezbollah. In the past, he has carried out truce negotiations with the State of Israel, while at the same time, vowing to continue the "struggle" with Israel to estabish a Palestinian State based on pre-1967 boundries. Since the expulsion of the Hamas leadership from Jorden in August of 1999, he has made his home in Damascus, Syria."
So, if there is someone that has the ability to edit this article, please feel free to use this. I am not biased in any way and simply have attempted to correct the very poor English used.
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Al Hayat, the Khaled Mishaal Interview
[edit]This is quite a wide-ranging interview, and an excellent source for Mishaal's and Hamas's perspective on things. I've had a hard time penetrating Al Hayat's defenses and getting all 7 of the parts, but here are parts 1, 2, and 3. Haberstr (talk) 02:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
MEMRI
[edit]Is it a viable, unbiased source? It is run by Jews and Israelis in the States who brief the Capitol. Boils (talk) 19:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nothing is viable and unbiased in these sorts of articles. MEMRI offers variety of information, and relies on many academics/journalists/experts to provide a unique perspective. It is not a 3rd party source such as BBC but it can be used most of the time. To say MEMRI is simply run by Jews and Israelis is offensive and antisemitic. Wikifan12345 (talk) 12:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Quick check
[edit]"khaled and Quran" is the last section before References. It contains these musings...
At Alfajer TV (AlQuran in their lives) show, he able to get snad in the Koran as the video shows[32]. He talk about Islam and Quran in Palestine too.
I'd really like to know about how Mr. Mashal talk about Islam and Quran in Palestine. The linked video has English subtitles. I skimmed it. Some bio info on the subject, but nothing not covered well in the rest of this pretty neat article besides his faith. So I guess the source could be part of bio/personal data. But then again...
I'm gonna leave this talk comment up a few days and if noone else edits it, I'm gonna remove it. Modinyr (talk) 07:34, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Alrighty, its deletion time for the last section. Modinyr (talk) 19:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
error: fentanyl is not a nerve toxin
[edit]fentanyl is not, as stated in this article, a nerve toxin. it is a synthetic opioid and belongs to the same class of chemicals as morphine and heroin. their major lethal effect is to cause respiratory failure. they are not considered nerve toxins. so, unless there was an additional ingredient in what was administered to khaled mashal during his assassination attempt, it is misleading to call what was delivered to his system a nerve or neuro- toxin. its antidote would have been naloxone (narcan), the same as in any case of opioid overdose.
- Every little hospital has naloxone, so what sense would it make for President Clinton to ask Netanjahu for this antidote? --82.113.103.164 (talk) 06:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
See the book KILL KHALID, levofentanyl has never been sold as a drug and there was no test to detect it. One of the Mossad agents involved with the murder attempt gave up 2 syringes that they claimed had an antidote, but the Palestinian's were afraid they contained more poison and would not use them without verification.
King Hussein was outraged by this murder attempt just after he committed himself to American/Israeli peace efforts and he wanted to know exactly what the compound was. Israel was starting a campaign of biological warfare, the King also wanted President Clinton to be aware of what Israel was doing.
Obviously, before using this poison on Khalid, at least 50 Palestinian prisoners were killed in determining what dosage to use, what part of the body to administer to, how long it would take to kill, and how to administer an antidote in case a Mossad agent accidentally was exposed to it.
Other books have detailed how Israel uses Palestinian prisoners as guinea pigs for biological weapons. See "By way of deception" and other books by that author, who is a former Mossad agent now living in Canada.
Mashaal did NOT kiss the ground after crossing from Egypt to Gaza on Dec. 7, 2012.
[edit]This inaccuracy has been repeated over and over again in the media, and it is utterly false. As is evident from the video clips of Mashaal's arrival in Gaza, he prostrated himself on the gound (per Islamic prayer), with only his forehead touching the ground. He did NOT kiss the ground. JD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.150 (talk) 19:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying this. --Michal 14:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zahav511 (talk • contribs)
Variances in Name
[edit]There are a few variations on Mashal's name in this article. Most notably, Meshaal. In Arabic, his name is مشعل which is Romanized to Mashʿal; Meshaal is only correct if his name were مشعال. Kindly request we come to some agreement on how to romanize his name. Given that the page title is Mashal, I recommend sticking to that naming convention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShroudedSciuridae (talk • contribs) 21:32, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Khaled Mashal doesn't live in Qatar anymore
[edit]I'm pretty sure that because Qatar is going to house the word cup in 2022 it had to kick Mashal out, I'm pretty sure he moved to Turkey or Tunisia. Guy355 (talk) 17:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Indeed, https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-mashaal-said-deported-from-qatar/ and https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2017-06-05/ty-article/palestinians-confirm-hamas-officials-left-qatar-at-countrys-request/0000017f-f88d-d460-afff-fbefa43d0000 . Drsruli (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Mashal has recently fled Qatar.Drsruli (talk) 20:45, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
What was the poison?
[edit]I wonder myself ift it's known what kind of toxin and/or antidote was used in this attack... If someone knows more details from a reliable source, we should add this information to the article. --37.138.54.162 (talk) 19:15, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]I looked and could not find information about his attendance at Stenden University, including in the Arabic version of the page. Is this accurate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.140.149 (talk) 15:09, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
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terrible grammar and editorial style
[edit]I am not at all experienced in Wikipedia editing or anything similar, but I just read some of this article, and while I don't know anything about the terms of service of Wikipedia I have to say that it was difficult to read this article due to it's weird style and confused phrasing. I don't think I can fix this article on my own, but I'd appreciate if someone more experienced would go over this article and make it more straightforward. I'm not suggesting removing any actual information in the Article, it's just that Wikipedia articles usually have a very specific style, and I don't think this Article matches that style. Smorcrux (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Help me correct a typo
[edit]I am not able to correct "Notes". When i click on edit, i get a template... The typo is in:
Notes and references Notes
According to Alex Altman, Mashal married in 1981[59] but according to Charbel he married in 1981.[2]
It should say: "but according to Charbel he married in 1980" Tradediatalk 14:38, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hamas flag
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Can the Hamas flag be removed? Its autheticity has been disputed on other articles (see recent reverts to Terrorism). Ben Azura (talk) 07:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Apparently a misedit on theother article, seems to ne sorted out now. Ben Azura (talk) 13:16, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Edit request - incorrect information
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Presumably a typo, the cited source says 1980 not 1981:
− | according to Charbel he married in | + | according to Charbel he married in 1980. |
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Erledigt Tollens (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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From: He views the goal of Hamas to be to "end the Zionist occupation; to liberate the land and the holy places; to reclaim Palestinian rights; to secure the return the refugees to their nation, lands, and homes; and to reclaim Jerusalem."[48] Mashal wants the future Palestinian state to be one that "is open to the world, far from fanaticism, and one that promotes tolerance and accepts all."[49]
To: He views the goal of Hamas to be to "end the Zionist occupation; to liberate the land and the holy places; to reclaim Palestinian rights; to secure the return of the refugees to their nation, lands, and homes; and to reclaim Jerusalem."[48] Mashal wants the future Palestinian state to be one that "is open to the world, far from fanaticism, and one that promotes tolerance and accepts all."[49] Tamdra (talk) 19:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Erledigt Cannolis (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a mistake: See description.
[edit]is a Palestinian political leader who is the former head of the militant organization Hamas. The problem is that it is supposed to say of the internationally recognized terror group Hamas. Because according to many country's it is a terror group and I for one find it important to mention this.
Thanks for taking this into consideration. DMPenguinTheJewishPenguin (talk) 15:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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change age from 67 to 68 Captain Shovel5 (talk) 00:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- The software will update the age automatically, but sometimes there is a delay. RudolfRed (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Is there an unbiased citation for him being in the Category: Palestinian billionaires? Multi millionaire seems likely, but billionaire doesn't seem very plausible. FourPi (talk) 04:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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