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:::Kalki, thank you for your input. I agree with much of what you said and, to be concise, also agree that it is a matter of preference. I'm also a believer in adding some uniqueness to pages and articles but, as I have learned at other Wikimedia projects, most sysops ''do not'' approve. After seeing the [[Television]] page and how one outspoken user feels it strays from neutrality it gave me a new persepctive on how others feel about quotations that refer to their favourite actors, past times, etc. I imagine if more than half of the quotes were bolded in the sourced section, as they are on the Marilyn Monroe page, it would have been obviously unneutral and ridiculously folly as an unbiased article. [[User:Sweet Pinkette|Sweet Pinkette]] 09:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
:::Kalki, thank you for your input. I agree with much of what you said and, to be concise, also agree that it is a matter of preference. I'm also a believer in adding some uniqueness to pages and articles but, as I have learned at other Wikimedia projects, most sysops ''do not'' approve. After seeing the [[Television]] page and how one outspoken user feels it strays from neutrality it gave me a new persepctive on how others feel about quotations that refer to their favourite actors, past times, etc. I imagine if more than half of the quotes were bolded in the sourced section, as they are on the Marilyn Monroe page, it would have been obviously unneutral and ridiculously folly as an unbiased article. [[User:Sweet Pinkette|Sweet Pinkette]] 09:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
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"I've been on a calendar, but never on time."
[edit]This was previously listed as being sourced from Look magazine (5 March 1957). However, I just searched through that issue of the magazine on microfilm and could not find this quotation. I also double-checked vol. 22 from later in that same year (Look - 22 October 1957) which featured an article on Marilyn Monroe and Arthur Miller, thinking it might have been a matter of a date mixup. Although there are references to Marilyn Monroe's tardiness in that piece, I could not find the quote there either. If whoever originally posted this quotation could double check the issue they are referencing and provide a page number for verification purposes, it would be very helpful.
"a man being rich is like a girl being pretty"
[edit]"* Don't you know that a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? You wouldn't marry a girl just because she's pretty, but my goodness, doesn't it help? o As "Lorelei Lee" in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)"
- is that really a "Marilyn Monroe" quote? isn't it technically by Charles Lederer, the screenwriter?
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[edit]It's an eyesore having so many quotes bolded, then not bolded, and so on. It's uncessesary, it detracts entirely from the page, and it's really just favourtism for quotes that may hold meaning to one person and then may not appeal to another user. I feel like it really should be toned down, especially with the longer quotes. Sweet Pinkette 09:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I often note that italics don't render well onscreen in a number of fonts and browsers, but the only time I find bolding an actual eyesore is on the very rare occasions I use serif fonts on-screen, and serif fonts on a computer screen at anything less than headline size are nearly always an eyesore, no matter how well they might look on printed pages. To quote the current Wikipedia article on sans-serif fonts:
- Sans-serif fonts have become the de facto standard for body text on-screen, especially online because electronic screens (computer monitor or otherwise) provide a cleaner and more legible rendering of sans-serif fonts than they do for serif fonts.
- I do believe that we are all in the process of exercising some degree of "favouritism" in the act of quotation itself, and in selecting, organizing and emphasizing in various ways the statements of others that we find most notable, inspiring, amusing or otherwise interesting, whether we agree with them or not, and I do not believe that this process should be artificially constrained beyond very minimal rules and guidelines, as regard to consensus criteria for notability and those essential to preventing copyright violations. I find pages full of quotes without any formatting differences at all to be generally drab and uninteresting. Formatting guidelines are useful, but beyond a regard for basic MediaWiki formatting essentials, establishing certain styles or constraints of style as mandatory is something I do not generally agree with. ~ Kalki 11:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Kalki, thank you for your input. I agree with much of what you said and, to be concise, also agree that it is a matter of preference. I'm also a believer in adding some uniqueness to pages and articles but, as I have learned at other Wikimedia projects, most sysops do not approve. After seeing the Television page and how one outspoken user feels it strays from neutrality it gave me a new persepctive on how others feel about quotations that refer to their favourite actors, past times, etc. I imagine if more than half of the quotes were bolded in the sourced section, as they are on the Marilyn Monroe page, it would have been obviously unneutral and ridiculously folly as an unbiased article. Sweet Pinkette 09:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]- I believe that everything happens for a reason. People change so that you can learn to let go, things go wrong so that you appreciate them when they're right, you believe lies so you eventually learn to trust no one but yourself, and sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.
- If you can make a woman laugh, you can make her do anything.
- Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely stupid.
- I don't know who invented High heels but all women owe him a lot.
- A wise girl kisses but doesn't love, listens but doesn't believe, and leaves before she is left.
- As of today, I have absolutely no regrets. I think I am a mature person who can take things in stride. I'm grateful for people in my past. They helped me get to where I am, wherever that is. But now, I am thinking for myself and sitting in on all the business transactions.
- Blond hair and breasts, that's how I got started. I couldn't act. All I had was blond hair and a body men liked. The reason I got ahead is that I was lucky and met the right men.
- Fame is fickle and I know it. It has its compensations, but it also has its drawbacks and I've experienced them both.
- For breakfast, I have two raw beaten eggs in a glass of hot milk. I never eat dessert. My nail polish is transparent. I never wear stockings or underclothes because I think it is important to breathe freely. I wash my hair everyday and I am always brushing it. Every morning I walk across my apartment rolling an empty soda bottle between my ankles, in order to preserve my balance.
- I always felt I was nobody and the only way for me to be somebody was to be... well, somebody else.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Monroe_sings_from_the_trailer_of_Niagra_2.jpg/220px-Monroe_sings_from_the_trailer_of_Niagra_2.jpg)
- I always felt insecure and in the way — but most of all I felt scared. I guess I wanted love more than anything else in the world.
- I don't mind living in a man's world as long as I can be a woman in it.
- I don't understand why people aren't a little more generous with each other. SOURCE: Interview published in LIFE Magazine, 1962.
- I have too many fantasies to be a housewife. I guess I am a fantasy.
- I knew I belonged to the public and to the world. Not because I was talented or even beautiful, but because I had never belonged to anything or anyone else.
- I let them think what they want. If they just care enough to bother with what I do then, I'm already better than them anyway.
- I never intentionally mean to hurt anyone, but you can't be too nice to people you work with, else they will trample you to death.
- I think cheesecake helps call attention to you. Then you can follow through and prove yourself.
- I used to think as I looked at the Hollywood night, 'There must be thousands of girls sitting alone like me, dreaming of becoming a movie star. But I'm not going to worry about them. I'm dreaming the hardest.'
- I want to be an artist not an erotic freak. I don't want to be sold to the public as a celluloid aphrodisiac.
- I want to grow old without face-lifts ... I want to have the courage to be loyal to the face I have made. Sometimes, I think it would be easier to avoid old age, to die young, but you'd never complete your life, would you? You'd never wholly know yourself.
- I was a mistake. My mother didn't want to have me. I guess she never wanted me. I probably got in her way. I know I must have disgraced her. A divorced woman has enough problems getting a man, I guess, but one with an illegitimate baby.... I wish, I still wish, she had wanted me.
- I won't be satisfied until people want to hear me sing without looking at me.
- I'm not interested in money. I just want to be wonderful.
- I've never dropped anyone I believed in.
- I've never liked the name Marilyn. I've often wished that I had held out that day for Jean Monroe. But I guess it's too late to do anything about it now.
- If I am a star the people made me a star.
- If I had observed all the rules, I'd never have gotten anywhere.
- In Hollywood a girl's virtue is much less important than her hairdo. You're judged by how you look, not by what you are. Hollywood's a place where they'll pay you a thousand dollars for kiss, and fifty cents for your soul. I know, because I turned down the first offer often enough and held out for the fifty.
- Joe doesn't think any man can love me except him. He's my best friend in the world. I don't want to lose him. I don't want to lose Jose (Bolanos). Oh, help me, somebody...
- Men who think that a woman's past love affairs lessen her love for them are usually stupid and weak. A woman can bring new love to each man she loves, providing there aren't too many.
- My great ambition is to have people comment on my fine dramatic performances.
- My how fast the months go — and the calendars!
- My illusions didn't have anything to do with being a fine actress. I knew how third rate I was. I could actually feel my lack of talent, as if it were cheap clothes I was wearing inside. But, my God, how I wanted to learn, to change, to improve!
- No one ever told me I was pretty when I was a little girl. All little girls should be told they are pretty, even if they aren't.
- No sex is wrong if there is love in it. But, too often, people act like it's gymnasium work, mechanical.
- Only the public can make a star. It's the studios who try to make a system out of it.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Marilyn_Monroe.jpg/220px-Marilyn_Monroe.jpg)
- People ask me if I am going on making cheesecake pictures now that I'm a star. My answer is that as long as there is a boy in Korea who wants a pinup of me, I'll go on posing for them.
- Sex is a part of nature. I go along with nature.
- She (the character, Sadie Thompson) was a girl who knew how to be gay even when she was sad. That's important, you know?
- Some people have been unkind. If I say I want to grow as an actress, they look at my figure. If I say I want to develop, to learn my craft, they laugh. Somehow they don't expect me to be serious about my work.
- The most unsatisfactory men are those who pride themselves on their virility and regard sex as if it were some form of athletics at which you can win cups. It is a woman's spirit and mood a man has to stimulate in order to make sex interesting. The real lover is the man who can thrill you just by touching your head or smiling into your eyes or by just staring into space.
- Those people have been writing all those lies about me, all I know, it's their problem. Those people, I don't even know them or if we met it's been brief. Can I take it? Most of course! I'm used to it and remember the old saying: 'consider the source'.
- With fame, you know, you can read about yourself, and somebody else's ideas about you, but what's important is how you feel about yourself — for survival and living day to day with what comes up.
- You can't sleep your way into being a star. It takes much, much more. But it helps a lot of actresses get their first chance that way.
- You know who I always depend on? Not strangers, not friends. The telephone! That's my best friend. I seldom write letters, but I love calling friends, especially late at night, when I can't sleep.
- Beneath the make-up and behind the mask I am just a girl who wishes for the world.
- I’m selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control, and at times hard to handle. But if you can’t handle me at my worst, you sure as hell don’t deserve me at my best. (No book source from before 2009 on Google Books) --Slashme (talk) 17:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- A wise girl kisses but doesn’t love, listens but doesn’t believe, and leaves before she is left.
- I believe that everything happens for a reason. People change so that you can learn to let go. Things go wrong so you can appreciate them when they’re right. You believe lies so eventually you trust no one but yourself. And sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.
- A wise girl knows her limits. A smart girl knows she has none. Variation: A girl knows her limits; but a wise girl knows she has none.
- I am good, but I am no angel. I sin, but I am not the Devil. I am pretty, but I am not beautiful. I have friends but I am not the peacemaker. I am just a small girl in a big world, trying to find someone to love.
- Remember - Life is short, so live it up, drink it down, laugh it off, avoid the drama, take chances, and never have regrets, because at one point everything you did was exactly what you wanted." (In some versions, 'drama' is substituted with 'bullshit'.
- Imperfection is beauty. Madness is genius, and it’s better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.
- The real lover is the man who can thrill you by kissing your forehead or smiling into your eyes or just staring into space.
- Nothing last forever, so live it up, drink it down, laugh it off, avoid the drama and have no regrets, because at one point everything you did was exactly what you wanted.