Commons-l September 2005

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Introducing FlickrLickr
by Erik Moeller 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

I've created a frontend and backend for selecting freely licensed photos from Flickr to be uploaded to the Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FlickrLickr Using the Flickr API, I am building a database of free photos from Flickr, and users can apply for access to the frontend to review slices of 1,000 photos each. After a slice is finished, I review it and run the upload bot to upload the selected photos to the Commons. See the above page for more information. There are currently almost half a million CC-BY photos on Flickr, and new ones are uploaded every day. I hope that a systematic effort to review these photos will greatly enrich the Commons. Please help by applying for access to a slice of Flickr. Best send me a private email with a link to your username so I can look at your past contributions. Best, Erik

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{{flickr}} tag (was Re: FlickrLickr slice done)
by Benjamin Esham 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [I'm cc'ing this to commons-l, as it should be seen/discussed by the community.] On Sep 27, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > I've assigned you a couple of new slices. OK, thanks! > Benjamin Esham wrote: > >> Also, I was thinking... should we have a tag (probably {{flickr}}) to >> mark images that have been taken from Flickr? That would make the >> FlickrLickr images a lot easier to find, and I think that having a >> consistent template for information like original image URL, original >> uploader, etc. would be a good idea. > > Yes, feel free to give it a try. The important thing, I think, is > to keep it > simple so it remains pleasant to edit through the FlickrLickr UI. > But [...] > seems simple enough. I've created a template {{Flickr}} (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Template:Flickr). There's an example up at <http:// commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bdesham/temp>. It would be nice if the Flickr logo were included, but we can't use fair-use images on Commons AFAIK. Here's the template syntax: {{Flickr| | photographer = [<user's url> <user's name>] | photographer_location = <location> | title = <title> | description = <description> | taken = <date> | flickrurl = <image url> }} This seems like it should be reasonably easy to edit with FlickrLickr; if you got really crazy, you could use a text box for each value and have the script assemble them. That's probably overkill, though. How does this template look? - -- Benjamin D. Esham bdesham(a)gmail.com | http://bdesham.net | AIM: bdesham128 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia ∙ http://en.wikipedia.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDObZjzOC3TdZ2u5oRAqx0AJ9JAy0jx2/EKyQTWseiaqGs0hPMJACgpRX+ kGfD4LATm5QXkardQ5se1FU= =WtRG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FlickrLickr: the first 10,000 images
by Erik Moeller 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

A total of 14,000 CC-BY-licensed photos on Flickr has now been reviewed using the collaborative process described at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FlickrLickr A total of 1,284 photos has been uploaded to the Commons so far, i.e., less than 10% of the reviewed photos on Flickr have been deemed useful. I have collected some of my personal favorites on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FlickrLickr/Highlights We're splitting the ~500,000 CC-BY images into slices of 1,000 each, which are reviewed one by one by different people. The reviewers so far: - Andre Engels: 5 slices - Angela: 1 slice - Benjamin Esham: 1 slice - myself: 7 slices We need more FlickrLickr reviewers! Just email me to get an account for http://epov.org/cgi-bin/flickrlickr.pl and I'll set you up. It's very easy: All you need to do is select the images you want, and edit the descriptions and categories. The decision what photos to keep is often very subjective, of course. I think the best approach is to take into account - uniqueness - usefulness for Wikimedia - technical quality. If a photo shows a very common object, animal, place or process, then it should probably only be picked if it is of very high quality. If it shows something more unusual, the first question is whether it is at least theoretically identifiable, and potentially useful for one of our projects. Technical quality isn't quite as important for these. We also need to be careful not to let mood affect our judgment. For example, if you're very hungry, you might select hundreds of photos of food ;-). So far I'm acting as a final reviewer on all slices, but I'd like to delegate that role to someone else at some point. Again, if you're interested, please email me and I'll give you a slice to look over. It can be very addictive. Best, Erik

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Freiheit mit Fallstricken
by Erik Moeller 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Eine deutsche Version meines Artikels über die Creative Commons NC-Lizenzen ist nun verfügbar: http://intelligentdesigns.net/Licenses/NC/de Der Text legt die Gründe dar, die dagegen sprechen, "freie" Lizenzen zu verwenden, die eine kommerzielle Nutzung der Inhalte verbieten. Das ist für Wikipedia und Wikicommons wichtig, da per Jimbo Medien unter solchen Lizenzen in allen Wikimedia-Projekten verboten sind. Ich hoffe, dass diejenigen von Euch, die sich damit befassen, Institutionen von der Anwendung freier Lizenzen zu überzeugen, daraus einen Nutzen ziehen können. Der Artikel wird voraussichtlich auch im nächsten Open-Source-Jahrbuch erscheinen. Über sinnvolle Bearbeitungen oder Hinweise würde ich mich freuen. Viele Grüße Erik

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Trademarks
by claus＠xn--frber-gra.muc.de 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

Hallo, Commons:Licensing currently says that "trademarked logos" should not be uploaded to Commons. I'd like to propose to change that. Short version: Trademarks are very different from copyright. They are more like "other laws which restrict the free use" of (any) content and Commons does already allow seals, flags, coats of arms, Olympic symbols, the Red Cross and Crescent (all of which are protected quite like "commercial" trademarks) as well as Nazi symbols (the use of which is extremly restricted in some legislations such as DE, AT, HU). Long version: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Licensing#Trademarks Claus -- http://www.faerber.muc.de

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Local laws, trademarks and such
by Alphax 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

Is Wikimedia bound by local laws regarding images? Eg. if the place where the photo was taken says I'm not allowed to take a photo, or that the thing I'm taking a photo of is copyrighted, is the photo allowed to go on Commons? Oh, and on a related note: If something vaguely looks like something which someone else has claimed is trademarked, is it? Does that make the image "unfree"? -- Alphax | /"\ Encrypted Email Preferred | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign OpenPGP key ID: 0xF874C613 | X Against HTML email & vCards http://tinyurl.com/cc9up | / \

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Images on user pages
by Jimmy Wales 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

I am cc'ing this to commons-l, since this discussion belongs there anyway. Laura Scudder wrote: > For instance, for the Netscape icon > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nuvola_apps_netscape.png we > apparently can only use it in limited cases and are supposed to > include the text: > > "Netscape, Netscape Certificater Server, Netscape FastTrack Server, > Netscape Navigator, Netscape ONE, SuiteSpot, and the Netscape N and > Ship's Wheel logos are registered trademarks of Netscape > Communications Corporation in the United States and other countries. > [List other Netscape product names used in your document] are also > trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation, which may be > registered in other countries." (from > http://wp.netscape.com/legal_notices/trademarks.html) > > So it would seem to me that we shouldn't have the trademarked images > that we can only use in limited cases anyways. > > > Laurascudder Yes, delete it. Stuff like this should be speedy deleted from commons, I think. Commons should tend very strongly towards purity, not comprehensiveness. There can be strong editorial reasons for including such things in the encyclopedia itself, and "fair use" makes an appearance there, but in commons, we should tend towards purity. Strongly. --Jimbo

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Creative Commons -NC Considered Harmful
by Erik Moeller 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

For quite a long time, I've been meaning to write a summary of the key reasons not to use "non-commercial uses only" licenses. It is now online at: http://intelligentdesigns.net/Licenses/NC I posted it to Kuro5hin as well, where it is now being discussed: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655 The version on the wiki is slightly more comprehensive and will hopefully evolve over time. This is not specific to Wikimedia, but I hope that those Wikimedians lobbying individuals, governments, and educational or scientific institutions to put their content under truly free licenses or into the public domain will find this collection of arguments useful. Best, Erik

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sysops cadidature
by petrus barbygere 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

I am cadidadate to be syspos Pour tout vous dire ma principale raison pour soliciter votre confiance est mon confort personel. Je pense être un assez gros contributeur ici [1], et qui dit gros contributeur dit erreurs et donc statut d'adminstrateur car pourquoi laissez faire à d'autre ce que l'on peut faire soi-même ? Le nombre des contributions ne font pas, aujourd'hui un administrateur. Aussi, vu que beaucoup des administrateurs de langue française sont occupés par des tâches "supérieures", je m'engage à être ici, sur commons, comme je le suis wikipédia, un adminsitrateur au service des autres contributeurs. Pour moi wikimedia commons doit être exemplaire dans le sens où les fichiers que nous proposons doivent être absolument "libre" (et si possible en haute définition pour les images). Je n'ai pas d'appareil photo et toutes les images que j'ai uploadé ici sont compatibles avec commons avec une utilisation la plus large possible. Je ne suis pas parano avec les droits d'auteurs. Je ne suis pas juriste, mais je connais un peu le droit de la propriété intellectuelle, le respecte et veux le faire respecter. Mais je souhaite aussi en profiter pleinement et vous en faire profiter lorsque celui-ci m'y autorise. en: : For all to tell you my principal reason for soliciter your confience is my personel comfort . I think i have made lots of contributions here [2], and when you contribute a lot you make lots of mistakes and why let do with other what one can do yourself? The number of the contributions do not make, today an sysop. Also, considering many the administrators of French language are occupied by "higher" tasks, I engage with being here, on commons, as I am to in wikipédia, a sysop with the service of the other contributors. For me wikimedia commons must be exemplary in the direction where the files which we propose must be absolutely "free" (and if possible into high définition for the images). I do not have a camera and all the images which I uploadé here are compatible with commons policy with the broadest possible use. I am not parano with the royalties. I am not a lawyer, but I know a little the right of the intellectual property, respects it and want to make it respect. But I also wish to benefit from it fully and to make some to you profit when this one authorizes me there. (P.S. : i make this translation myself, if you want do do it best, please do it !) to vote : http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Administrators/Requ…

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Birthday
by Tim 'avatar' Bartel 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi, I just noticed that our beloved Wikimedia Commons will have its first birtday next Tuesday. I think it's pretty impressing how fast our baby has grown up - even if it sometimes has children's deseases, I think we (as 'parents') can be proud of this. Keep up your good work! Bye, Tim 'avatar' Bartel. -- "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation

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