Commons-l September 2008

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14 discussions

Our categories are broken, very broken
by Delphine Ménard 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

I need a road sign. I figure there are a bunch of road signs on Commons, so since I am in Wikipedia, I go to the French page for a sign, hoping to swiftly follow the categories to get the the road sign I need. That's my starting point: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_en_sens_unique I dare you to give me sensible a way to get here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:C6.svg ...if you don't speak English. (in the end, it so happens that the sign I was looking for seems not to exist in SVG, I'll make it, using... a google image I found in 2 seconds). How did we get into this mess? Is there a way to start changing this and making something that makes sense? Or is it simply hopeless? It's actually the second time in a few days that I have that problem. Sad. :( Delphine -- ~notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Your emails will get lost. Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org

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unprocessed deletion requests
by Robin Schwab 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Dear commoners Wikimedia Commons is known to be very strict on copyright. We are even stricter than most of the Wikimedias. So far so good. What surprises me a bit is that so many deletion requests never get processed once the debate is closed. I find unprocessed deletion requests as old as April 2008! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2008/04 OK this is an exception but also in May there are several unprocessed requests: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2008/05 And when I look in June it seems that just a few of them have already been processed: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2008/06 What's going on here? Regards Robin

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GOOD MEETING!
by chukwukelue nwankwo 25 Sep '08

25 Sep '08

chuksmax2000(a)yahoo.com that is my e-mail addres.

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Video accessibility
by Gregory Maxwell 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Some folks around here may have input to provide: http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/09/23/video-accessibility-for-firefox/

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Beer and copyright
by Joe Szilagyi 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

Some of you may recall that about 5-6 (?) weeks ago we had a slew of deletion requests of beer bottles and cans. If my memory is correct, virtually all of them were "keep" under the rationale that the images didn't fall under fair use or copyright violations for our purposes. There is a fresh DR on this today: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Pacifico_… And another just closed as delete the other day. We have numerous images that are ostensibly just, well, images of products: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Marmite-Guinness_edition.JPG http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:A_bottle_of_Budweiser.JPG http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Stolichnaya.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Stoli.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Ursuswodka.JPG This isn't specific to alcohol products, of course--just went for those as they seem to be the topic of discussion. Should we be hosting such images? - Joe

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Re: [Commons-l] revoking licenses /user-request-deletions
by Vassia Atanassova 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

>I think the answer lies in even more information towards our user >base. Users of Wikimedia projects, I think, just don't *get* the >*free* part for most. It's just a cool thing they do, upload their >pictures for Wikipedia... > >Delphine I'd suggest a questionnaire or a wizard-like sequence of questions and optional answers which results in suggestion of which license (if any!) best suits the author's will. I've seen something similar here: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/4/49/Choose_license_popup.png (accessible from here: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Web_Integration_Guide) For instance: * I declare I am the original author of the image. Y/N ** I allow commercial uses of my work. Y/N ** I allow modifications of my work. Y/N *** I require attribution. Y/N **** I require further distributions being released under the same conditions. Y/N Good side is that people will make more informed decisions. Bad side... this will reduce the number of uploads... Regards, Spritia

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Dirac 1.0 released
by David Gerard 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

http://diracvideo.org/node/18 Dunno how good it is yet (compression, encoding CPU load, decoding CPU load). VLC 0.9.2 apparently supports playback, dunno about encoding. - d.

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revoking licenses /user-request-deletions
by ABF 19 Sep '08

19 Sep '08

Hi all of you. In the last months I recogniced more and more uploaders wanted their Images to be deleted. In normal cases I delete on uploaders request, but not if someone wants to have all his images / most of them deleted. This is problematic, because all the Licenses we have are _unrevokable!_ Yesterday there was a user who clearly wants all of his Images yust to have all his Images gone and after we opposed his CSD-request he yust said "My father/sister/whatever took the Image, so its unfree" and we had to delete them all. I belive we should get a clear consenus about this. (For example blocking in cases as above!?) Do you have any Ideas? Regards, ABF

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Re: [Commons-l] revoking licenses /user-request-deletions
by Анатолій Гончаров 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

I know one user who uploaded his images to Commons last year with CC-BY and to Flickr with CC-BY-NC-ND. Last month he was blocked infinitely on Russian Wikipedia and after it he changed sources on Commons' images from "Own work" to Flickr and he wants to delete these images. 2008/9/17 <commons-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:42:09 +0200 > From: ABF <wikipediabaeren(a)gmx.de> > Subject: [Commons-l] revoking licenses /user-request-deletions > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <48D10931.1010300(a)gmx.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed > > Hi all of you. > > In the last months I recogniced more and more uploaders wanted their > Images to be deleted. In normal cases I delete on uploaders request, but > not if someone wants to have all his images / most of them deleted. This > is problematic, because all the Licenses we have are _unrevokable!_ > > Yesterday there was a user who clearly wants all of his Images yust to > have all his Images gone and after we opposed his CSD-request he yust > said "My father/sister/whatever took the Image, so its unfree" and we > had to delete them all. > > I belive we should get a clear consenus about this. (For example > blocking in cases as above!?) Do you have any Ideas? > > > Regards, > > > ABF > > > -- Анатолій Гончаров mailto:[email protected]

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Cross-project dupes
by Magnus Manske 13 Sep '08

13 Sep '08

I've written a little tool [1] that shows file duplicates between a wikipedia and Commons, as well as internal duplicates. It runs of a static list created from the toolserver databases; currently, German and English are available. I will have to regenerate the data for other wikipedias and for updates manually. But for now, there's ~29.000 dupes between en.wp and Commons, as well as ~8.500 between de.wp and Commons, so it might take you guys a while ;-) A subset (default:25) images is selected randomly from the list, so you might run into images that already have {{NowCommons}}. Cheers, Magnus [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/cgi-bin/duplicate_images_across.pl?lang=en&ma…

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