Three whistleblowers who claim the Department of Defense has hidden information gathered about unidentified flying objects testified in front of a House of Representatives subcommittee on Wednesday.
David Grusch, a former U.S. intelligence official, former fighter pilot Ryan Graves of Americans for Safe Aerospace, and retired Navy pilot David Fravor testified in front of a House Oversight subcommittee in a highly anticipated hearing. The former's conviction is based on previous work and second-hand accounts, while the latter two both claim to have their own experiences with, as the Pentagon says, unidentified anomalous phenomenon, which is the term the U.S. government uses instead of UFO.
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“Congress should work to ensure that knowledge is not driven by fear. Today we are not just debating the existence of UAPs,” Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI), chairman of the Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, said in his opening remarks. “We are deliberating on the principles that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today about ways we can improve government efficiency and openness when it comes to UAPs.”
Similarly, Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) said, “We’re going to uncover the cover-up."
Grusch, who previously worked for the National Reconnaissance Office, told lawmakers that the department has been hiding "a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program." When asked, he said he believed the U.S. had likely been aware of “nonhuman” activity since the 1930s, and he alleged being subjected to retaliatory actions since coming forward but declined to provide specific details, citing an ongoing investigation.
“It was very brutal and very unfortunate, some of the tactics they used to hurt me both professionally and personally,” he said, adding, "I call it administrative terrorism. That’s their quiver or tool in the toolbox to silence people, especially the career government servants who care about their career, care about their clearance, their reputation to climb the ladder. When you threaten that flow, that career path, a lot of people back off, but I’m here to represent those people."
Lawmakers asked the three witnesses how they should continue to seek transparency in the matter of UAPs, and Grusch declined to answer publicly but said he could point them out "specifically," while the other witnesses deferred to him on this matter. He also demurred when asked if anyone had been murdered as a part of this supposed cover-up.
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Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said in a statement investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”
In mid-April, Sean Kirkpatrick, the head of the Pentagon's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, told a Senate Armed Services subcommittee that his department has found "no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics."