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Dracaena (Q158009) and taxon synonym (P1420)

Hi! Could you please add a source for this claims. My sources do not support this. --Succu (talk) 20:48, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I updated it with source. --Termininja (talk) 11:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image choice

Hi Termininja - please be careful over image choice! At Rock Dove (Q42326) you had replaced an image of a Rock Dove (Q42326) with an image of a feral pigeon (Q1942487), which is not appropriate to the Rock Dove (Q42326) item. When selecting an image, it is best when available to use an image of a wild (not captive or cultivated) individual, and ideally from as close as possible to the type locality (Q2405146) to give an accurate representation of the taxon as originally described. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 21:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merging items

Hallo Termininja,
When you (want to) merge items, you may want to use the merge.js gadget from help page about merging. It helps with merging and removes the need to file a request on Wikidata:Requests for deletions.
With regards,- сyсn - (talk • contribs • logs) 09:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hepatophyta

Hepatophyta is based on an illegitimate generic name. It is thus a nomen invalidum and therefore not a taxonomic synonym. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but the image (preferred or not) is a collage, so your edit is not ok. Property montage image (P2716) is created to be used... --Termininja (talk) 15:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The image of the male stalks of Marchantia is not a good image. Marchantia is a weird bryophyte; it is highly atypical. I have looked for a better image, but have not found one that would be usable. If you think this requires a collage image property instead, we can switch to that, but that would mean removing the Marchantia image to avoid duplicated properties. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source for taxon authors?

Hi Termininja, your bot made this edit. What source did it use? Korg (talk) 01:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For most author edits I used ITIS, but for this item I see that it is not correct so I'll check and fix it. Thanks. --Termininja (talk) 07:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply! Korg (talk) 14:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Monotypic taxon

An entity is a taxon by its own nature. Whether it is monotypic depends on the number of described subgroups, whether new subgroups have been published, whether subgroups have been merged, whether there are fossil taxa included, whether a subgroup is extant or extinct. But none of those things are properties of the taxon itself. They are properties of its subgroups. For these reasons (and many more) Wikispecies has chosen not to mark "monotypic" taxa. IF you think this is something that Wikidata should track, I would recommend proposing a new property for this attribute, just as we have properties for children of people, or for parent taxa. But it is not a suitable value for instance of (P31), which is a descriptor for the group itself, and not what subgroups may or may not be included. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

monotypic taxon (Q310890) - taxonomic group which contains only one immediately subordinate taxon. Calobryales (Q21344135) is exactly this case. We have thousands of such items. If you want to change something you have to do it for all of them, so please revert your edit. Such actions are vandalism, because we lose useful information about the item. When new property is introduced we will switch to it, until then we have to use the current structure. Regards. --Termininja (talk) 11:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So you would favor the introduction of a property for "human with only one child", to be used in place of "human" whenever the human has only one child? --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I notice also that the first other plant group I checked that is marked as monotypic taxon (Q310890) is Platanaceae (Q171425). That group is not monotypic because it contains the genera Sapindopsis (Q59192208), Debeya, & Dewalquea. So the fact that there are thousands of items marked with this value does not mean that there are thousands of correct usages. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EncycloPetey: Non of the fossil taxa you mentioned, belongs to Platanaceae (Q171425). --Succu (talk) 17:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they do. Please see The Biology and Evolution of Fossil Plants and the same information is provided on the English Wikipedia. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

enWP is not a source at all. The Biology and Evolution of Fossil Plants (Q98912216) (1993) is a questionable source from a modern viewpoint. --Succu (talk) 18:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Media legend

Hi Termininja - when adding a 'sex or gender' entry, please do not remove the 'media legend' entry (as you did e.g. here) when it contains important additional information like subspecies depicted. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 15:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw some of these and I usually don't remove them, I even added a lot of subspecies depicted, but for this item I missed it. So this is the correct entry. Descriptions are for some lang specific info, not for generic info. --Termininja (talk) 19:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's if 'depicts' exists for all subspecies? Also what should one do for examples like Red-footed Booby (Q217122), where there is both subspecies and colour morph information to give? (As an aside on this particular one, I removed the sex / gender note as this species can't be sexed on plumage alone, the photographers' sex claims are either guesswork or based on behavioural information not shown in the photos) - MPF (talk) 20:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to mark colour morph. I think with description is ok for now. --Termininja (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

English names

Hi Termininja - please note English names of birds are capitalised, following the IOC World Bird List references. Please stop changing them to lowercase! Thanks! - MPF (talk) 23:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In IOC World Bird List they can be capitalized, but in Wikidata we use Help:Label#Capitalization as the idea is the label to can be used in sentense. With what the birds are more different/special from the other organisms? (lion (Q140), leopard shark (Q1478899), adder (Q192056), tomato (Q23501), White Stork (Q25352)) --Termininja (talk) 13:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Termininja - from the Help:Label#Capitalization entry, "Labels begin with a lowercase letter except for when uppercase is normally required or expected" (my emphasis). For animals and plants, uppercase is expected in English (as witness the IOC reference); the formal vernacular name of a species is a proper name, so it takes upper case. A Common Tern (Sterna hirundo specifically) is not the same as a common tern (any tern that happens to be abundant); a Yellow Wagtail (Motacilla flava specifically) is not the same as a yellow wagtail (any wagtail that is yellow) - it is reasonable to say that a Grey Wagtail [Motacilla cinerea] is a yellow wagtail (as it has a lot of yellow in its plumage); but it is not a Yellow Wagtail. That some wikidata items for species do not have upper case is an error that should be corrected. - MPF (talk) 10:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for info, I'll not change EN labels.. --Termininja (talk) 11:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Dracaena (Q158009) and taxon synonym (P1420)

Image choice

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Hepatophyta

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+== {{Q|158009}} and {{P|1420}} ==
-== Scientific name => common name  ==
-Termininja, simply beening curious: Why did you change enwiki labels this way? --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:59, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
+Hi! Could you please add a source for [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q158009&type=revision&diff=1119971866&oldid=1114111663 this claims]. My sources do not support this. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:48, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
-: Because the label is multilingual, in other cases the label has to be the same for all languages. I saw it from other items, like {{Q|729}}. Is it wrong this? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:09, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
+: I updated it with source. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
-:: What changes exactly did you saw on {{Q|729}}? The label is language specific. So move related article at enwiki or let the label alone. A Scientific name  choosen by a community should not be replaced with common name by an outstander. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
-::: I don't understand you, give me example with some item which is changed in a way you mentioned above. I changed the labels like in [[Q729]] so if Q729 is ok and the other my changes have to be ok. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
-:::: Mind to inspect your contributions starting with [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25326&diff=prev&oldid=281355451 this one]? What did you changed [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q729&action=history here] ({{Q|729}})? --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
-::::: I didn't change anything in animal, I just gave you as example that my changes are like in it. In [[Q25326]] we have label '''molluscs''' with alias '''Mollusca''' (as taxon name), which is the same as in [[Q729]] where we have label '''animal''' with alias '''Animalia''' (again as taxon name). So explain me why animal is ok, and molluscs not. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:15, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
-:::::: Please don't give examples where something might be wrong. Please give a reaseon for your replacement '''Scientific name => common name'''. That's all. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:29, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
-:::::::I already answered you, the scientific name is not language specific. So you want to say that the label of Q729 has to be changed to Animalia? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:03, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-::::::::I agree mostly with Temininja here. {{Ping|Succu|Brya}}, when common and taxonomic entity in 1 item I'd expect to have common name labels. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
-::::::::::See below. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
+== Image choice ==
-::Items are used in statements, like parent taxon, basionym, taxon synonym, and this only makes sense if the label is a scientific name. On the other hand for a handful of very wellknown organisms, items are also used in statements like "depicted in painting", "used as an ingredient in soup", so in those cases there is a conflict. But this is only a handful of cases, and it is never wrong to use the scientific name. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:58, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-::: Whatever, I reverted my 21 edits, so now the labels are in their previous state. But for me is still unclear how is possible '''[[Q17170|trilobite]]''' to be more "wellknown" than '''[[Q25326|mollusc]]'''. By the way the ''animal'', ''plant'', ''trilobite'', etc. are just examples, there are a lot of other items in such state... And why ''[[Q1390|insects]]'', ''[[Q19081|prokaryotes]]'', etc. are plural and ''[[Q7377|mammal]]'', ''[[Q5113|bird]]'', etc. - singular. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:34, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-:Thank you. Whether or not "trilobite" is better known than "mollusc", you might be suprised: trilobites are companions of dinosaurs and enjoy some of their fame. Personally, I am rather concerned that, apparently, many feel that dinosaurs and trilobites are creatures living today. The singular in labels is caused by enwiki, where they have a believe that "bird" is the right label. So where there is a strong enwiki influence labels tend to be singular. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:49, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-:: The names in enwiki are singular also for the items with label ''[[Q1390|insects]]'' and ''[[Q19081|prokaryotes]]''. Is that means that they have to be corrected. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:20, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-::::No, this is Wikidata, not enwiki. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:26, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
+Hi Termininja - please be careful over image choice! At {{Q|Q42326}} you had replaced an image of a {{Q|Q42326}} with an image of a {{Q|Q1942487}}, which is not appropriate to the {{Q|Q42326}} item. When selecting an image, it is best when available to use an image of a wild (not captive or cultivated) individual, and ideally from as close as possible to the {{Q|Q2405146}} to give an accurate representation of the taxon as originally described. Thanks! - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
-=== back to labels ===
-::::: I suppose, en-labels have strong correlation with enwiki. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
-:::Why assume that? It makes much more sense to use the English labels to serve the English-speaking users of Wikidata. Anyway, enwiki is not stable, and in general is migrating towards scientific names. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
-== Edit problems ==
+== Merging items ==
-Hi Termininja! Actually, '''NOW''' it's everything alright, but at the time I reverted your edit, it was clear causing a code break. Probably someone edit some template around that broke it up your edition; then reverted and everything turn ok again. Regards, [[User:Sturm|Sturm]] ([[User talk:Sturm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:21, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-: "code break"?, the link was tested and work, I don't see any problems with [//tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/index.php?wdq=TREE%5b15100334%2c857497%2c25371%2c127282%2c160830%5d%5b%5d%5b171%5d+and+CLAIM%5b105%3a7432%5d&run=Run&chunk_size=1000 it]. And please, always continue the conversation on the place where it has started. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:21, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
-== Bulgarian labels ==
+Hallo Termininja,
-Hello once again. I found an example: [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q41217&diff=238905196&oldid=238014386]. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
+<br />
-:Hi, before I thought that only the properties have to be in lowercase and the item labels have to be as their corresponding site links. I'll correct them. What about [[Q424995|disambiguation items]]? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
+When you (want to) merge items, you may want to use the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js|merge.js]] gadget from [[Special:MyLanguage/Help:Merge|help page about merging]]. It helps with merging and removes the need to file a request on [[Wikidata:Requests for deletions]].
-::Yes, correct please. If you are saying about description "Пояснителна страница" then it should also be minusculed to "пояснителна страница". --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
+<br />
-::: Not only about item's description, I asked also for the English label in Q424995. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:46, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
-:::: What's the question about English label? --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
+With regards,- ''[[User:Cycn|сyсn]]'' - <small>([[User talk:Cycn|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cycn|{{int:Contribslink}}]] • [[Special:Log/Cycn|{{int:sp-contributions-logs}}]])</small>  09:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
-::::: Is it ok to start with uppercase letter? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
-:::::: If you are saying about "Wikipedia disambiguation page", it starts with uppercase letter because "Wikipedia" is proper name. As for labels in disambiguation items, I have no strong opinion, but I usually tend to capitalize them. May be better not to change labels in Q424995-type items. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:30, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
-: [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q23193&diff=226125626&oldid=222751413 So]? --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:58, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
-:: This is too old. My bot now start to correct [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotNinja taxon bg labels]. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
-== България ==
+== Hepatophyta ==
+Hepatophyta is based on an illegitimate generic name.  It is thus a ''nomen invalidum'' and therefore not a taxonomic synonym. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
-Hi Termininja. Can you take a look at this discussion related to Bulgarian geo articles >> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Innocent_bystander&oldid=301934594#Merges.3F ? --[[User:XXN|XXN]], 20:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
-: I am not competent in the subject, but asked for assistance and opinion in [https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8#Administrative_Division_of_Bulgaria our wiki]. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:40, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
+: Ok, but the image (preferred or not) is a collage, so [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q29993&type=revision&diff=1166896734&oldid=1166871007 your edit] is not ok. Property {{P|2716}} is created to be used... --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
+:: The image of the male stalks of ''Marchantia'' is not a good image. ''Marchantia'' is a weird bryophyte; it is highly atypical. I have looked for a better image, but have not found one that would be usable. If you think this requires a collage image property instead, we can switch to that, but that would mean removing the ''Marchantia'' image to avoid duplicated properties. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
-== [[Q23038290|Fossil taxon]] ==
+== Source for taxon authors? ==
-Hi Termininja,
-There has been a question of how to distinguish fossil taxa, and the solution we came up with is to replace "instance of taxon" by "instance of fossil taxon". You probably know better than me how to track what taxa are fossil, but any taxon with "(fossil)" in the description or with a value for {{P|524}} should be a fossil taxon. Is this a job you would be interested in? - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:40, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
+Hi Termininja, your bot made [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2525560&diff=prev&oldid=1111850512&diffmode=source this edit]. What source did it use? [[User:Korg|Korg]] ([[User talk:Korg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
-:Oh, I didn't know for {{Q|23038290}}, and now I see that it is [[Q131396|already in use]]. I think it will be very easy to move all fossils in this new instance, but first I'll have to update my bot code because there are some changes in MediaWiki API. I'll do it in the next some days... --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
+: For most author edits I used ITIS, but for this item I see that it is not correct so I'll check and fix it. Thanks. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
+::Thanks for your reply! [[User:Korg|Korg]] ([[User talk:Korg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
+== Monotypic taxon ==
-:::Thank you. And yes, we first tried it out in some cases to see how it would fit. It quickly became apparent that doing it by hand was going to take a long time ... So a few days would be very quick. There could easily be several tens of thousands of fossil taxa.
-:::: You may have noticed that "ichnotaxon" is a subclass of "fossil taxon"; items that use "ichnotaxon" should stay as they are (this likely will remain a matter to be dealt with by hand). - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
-::::: Hm, but if {{Q|2568288}} is subclass of fossil taxon, obviously all items that are ichnotaxon should be also and fossil taxon..., but ok, it is not problem to miss them. Is this means that all subitems of some ichnotaxon item should not be moved to fossil taxon also? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
-:::Yes, any item that has a parent taxon that is an ichnotaxon should be an ichnotaxon also. All in all, ichnotaxon is a pretty weird phenomenon, not hierarchical (very shallow hierarchy). Just ignore it, and leave any problems to be sorted by hand. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
-* I made [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2491&diff=prev&oldid=316338193 one replacement for test]. I hope there aren't any important references or qualifiers under {{Q|16521}} because they will be lost. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
+An entity is a taxon by its own nature.  Whether it is monotypic depends on the number of described ''subgroups'', whether new subgroups have been published, whether subgroups have been merged, whether there are fossil taxa included, whether a subgroup is extant or extinct.  But none of those things are properties of ''the taxon itself''.  They are properties of its subgroups.  For these reasons (and many more) Wikispecies has chosen not to mark "monotypic" taxa.  IF you think this is something that Wikidata should track, I would recommend proposing a new property for this attribute, just as we have properties for children of people, or for parent taxa.  But it is not a suitable value for {{P|31}}, which is a descriptor for the ''group itself'', and not what ''subgroups'' may or may not be included. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
-:: Why? Technically this is simply a replacement of the property value. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:37, 28 March 2016 (UTC) PS: Ignore qualifiers (they are wrongly placed) and values referenced by {{P|248}}. But give us a log for the latter. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
+: {{Q|310890}} - ''taxonomic group which contains only one immediately subordinate taxon''. {{Q|21344135}} is exactly this case. We have thousands of such items. If you want to change something you have to do it for all of them, so please revert your edit. Such actions are vandalism, because we lose useful information about the item. When new property is introduced we will switch to it, until then we have to use the current structure. Regards. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
+:: So you would favor the introduction of a property for "human with only one child", to be used in place of "human" whenever the human has only one child? --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
-::::This "instance of taxon" should not have references or qualifiers. It just means that "taxon name" is present in the item. Here and there, there will be an "imported from ... Wikipedia" but this should not be there (holds no information). - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
+:: I notice also that the first other plant group I checked that is marked as {{Q|310890}} is {{Q|171425}}.  That group is ''not'' monotypic because it contains the genera ''{{Q|59192208}}'', ''Debeya'', & ''Dewalquea''.  So the fact that there are thousands of items marked with this value does not mean that there are thousands of correct usages. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
+::: @[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]]: Non of the fossil taxa you mentioned, belongs to {{Q|171425}}. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
+:::: Yes they do.  Please see ''The Biology and Evolution of Fossil Plants'' and the same information is provided on the English Wikipedia. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
+::::: enWP is not a source at all. {{Q|98912216}} (1993) is a questionable source from a modern viewpoint.  --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
+== We sent you an e-mail ==
-* Instance of '''taxon''' was replaced with '''fossil taxon''' in 3190 items, and only [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21397658&diff=prev&oldid=320289241 1 reference was removed]. Also 36 [[Q2470634|monotypic fossil taxon]] items was found. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
+Hello {{PAGENAME}},
-::Thank you. Once you started, this was quickly done! I would have expected the number to be higher, but it is hard to judge such things. A relief that it is done. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
-::: I think also that their number is higher. I didn't update the descriptions from half year so maybe later will find more. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
-:::::Yes, without looking hard I found a few you had missed, so there should be more. Did you see the [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Taxonomy&diff=315945526&oldid=315945397 suggestion by Succu of using Fossilworks]? - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
+Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email [email protected].
-:::::: I can use Fossilworks and WoRMS to add more. ;) --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:25, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
-::::::: Ok --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:10, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
+You can [[:m:Special:Diff/20479077|see my explanation here]].
-:::::::: Looks like that the use of Fossilworks is a little bit problematic. We now have [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20(count(*)%20as%20%3FcountOfFossilTaxa)%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ23038290%20.%0A%7D more than 13.000 taxa] marked as fossil. I fixed some obvious issues, but I fear there are more. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
-:::::::: As a first step I added fossil Foraminifera with the help of WoRMS. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
+[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
-=== monotypic taxon ===
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-How to proceed when the '''instance of''' is '''monotypic taxon''' - {{Q|18915680}}? Maybe we need '''monotypic fossil taxon'''... or better if '''fossil''' is used as qualifier in instance of '''taxon''' and '''monotypic taxon'''? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:30, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
+== Media legend ==
-::Using qualifiers looks dangerous to me. Maybe a '''monotypic fossil taxon''' would work. The problem is that '''monotypic''' is dependent on taxonomic point of view (it really needs a solid reference) and thus is transient and relative. Perhaps better start by using both "fossil taxon" and "monotypic taxon", side by side: this certainly makes it easier to add separate references. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
+Hi Termininja - when adding a 'sex or gender' entry, please do not remove the 'media legend' entry (as you did e.g. [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q151851&type=revision&diff=1347445044&oldid=1332380454 here]) when it contains important additional information like subspecies depicted. Thanks! - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
-== Replacing meaningful labels by generic ones ==
+: Yes, I saw some of these and I usually don't remove them, I even added a lot of subspecies depicted, but for this item I missed it. So [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q151851&type=revision&diff=1355923166&oldid=1355923080 this] is the correct entry. Descriptions are for some lang specific info, not for generic info. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
+::Thanks! That's if 'depicts' exists for all subspecies? Also what should one do for examples like {{Q|217122}}, where there is both subspecies and colour morph information to give? (As an aside on this particular one, I removed the sex / gender note as this species can't be sexed on plumage alone, the photographers' sex claims are either guesswork or based on behavioural information not shown in the photos) - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
+::: I don't know how to mark colour morph. I think with description is ok for now. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
+==English names==
-Please stop removing meaningful labels to put generic ones, like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6420476&type=revision&diff=328274996&oldid=317535448 here] or [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6420363&type=revision&diff=327954560&oldid=307442334 here]... --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] ([[User talk:NicoV|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:17, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
+Hi Termininja - please note English names of birds are capitalised, following the IOC World Bird List references. Please stop changing them to lowercase! Thanks! - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
-:I think you mean [[Help:description|description]]s, not [[Help:label|label]]s. The item for WP Cleaner is [[Q4796484]], not [[Q6420476]]. Sometimes it can't be avoided to repeat the label in the description, but generally it's not needed (note [[Help:Description#Punctuation]] last part).
+: In IOC World Bird List they can be capitalized, but in Wikidata we use [[Help:Label#Capitalization]] as the idea is the label to can be used in sentense. With what the birds are more different/special from the other organisms? ({{Q|140}}, {{Q|1478899}}, {{Q|192056}}, {{Q|Q23501}}, {{Q|25352}}) --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
-:Anyways, not sure why I comment on this. Probably because the heading worried me. Maybe Termininja wants to answer instead.  <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 05:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
+::Hi Termininja - from the [[Help:Label#Capitalization]] entry, "Labels begin with a lowercase letter ''except for when uppercase is normally required or expected''" (my emphasis). For animals and plants, uppercase ''is'' expected in English (as witness the IOC reference); the formal vernacular name of a species is a proper name, so it takes upper case. A Common Tern (''Sterna hirundo'' specifically) is not the same as a common tern (any tern that happens to be abundant); a Yellow Wagtail (''Motacilla flava'' specifically) is not the same as a yellow wagtail (any wagtail that is yellow) - it is reasonable to say that a Grey Wagtail [''Motacilla cinerea''] is a yellow wagtail (as it has a lot of yellow in its plumage); but it is ''not'' a Yellow Wagtail. That some wikidata items for species do not have upper case is an error that should be corrected. - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
-::Yes, descriptions, not label.  But what is the point of putting meaningless description when there's already one with meaning ? Is there any interest of putting the same description in thousands of items ? --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] ([[User talk:NicoV|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:32, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
+:::Thanks for info, I'll not change EN labels.. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
-:::I think it's fairly important that all disambiguation items have the same description. Makes it easier to ignore them.
-:::I don't see an advantage of your description at [[Q6420476]] over the existing one. It's potentially misleading as the relevant item is elsewhere. <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 05:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
-:I agree with Jura. Descriptions are there for the purpose of disambiguation, not for details. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:58, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
-:: According to me description is useful only when the labels are the same. But its not problem, I disabled the changes for English descriptions in my bot. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:00, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
-* I also disagree with you, [[User:NicoV]]. Description in [[Q6420476]] was simply wrong. This item is template, not the tool. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
-:Yes [[User:Jura1]] and [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]], description for [[Q6420476]] was incorrect, but everyone here clearly avoids talking about the other one I was talking about [[Q6420363]], where the description seemed correct... Still, if the "description is useful only when the labels are the same", in what way putting the same meaningless description in thousands of items helps in any way ? If it's only useful in a specific case, why add it automatically and in a way that's not useful at all for the specific case. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] ([[User talk:NicoV|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::Putting one and the same description in thousands of items can be quite useful since Wikidata holds millions of items, and a group of thousands may be a useful unit. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
-:: For categories I use sometimes non-standard descriptions but I feel the need very rarely. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
+== Call for participation in a task-based online experiment  ==
-I think [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q526549&curid=495520&diff=335641073&oldid=335315684 this edit] ("description:species of tree" --> "description:species of plant") is a case were replacing a meaningful description with a generic one is a bad thing.
-:Hi, I reverted the edit above because you didn't react. Now your bot has made the same edit [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q526549&type=revision&diff=362437955&oldid=356044568 again]. Please reply.   [[User:Quercus mortus|Quercus mortus]] ([[User talk:Quercus mortus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:25, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
-::* Once one starts by adopting more detailed descriptions, there is no end to it. One can add the size of the tree, its provenance, whether or not it is deciduous, the color of its flowers, etc, etc.
-::* Actually, "tree" is not all that useful a descriptor. There are many differing definitions of "tree", so that using it as a desriptor may cause confusion. Also, plants are not required to follow any definition: some species can be a liana, shrub or tree, depending on where they grow.
-::* The purpose of the description is not to describe the item, it is there to disambiguate the label. The aim is to put it in the right ballpark, for example making it clear the item is not a single by a popgroup. The description should be as short as possible. Generic and standardized descriptions are very useful for all kinds of purposes. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
-:::* I didn't propose adding a 20 word description, I just wanted to use a less broad term.
-:::* I could argue the opposite, most people think of a woodless piece of vegetation when they hear the word plant and not the taxonomic definition.
-:::* Arguing that descriptions don't matter that much anyway right after debating a one-word-change doesn't do any good to both arguments. btw tree is sorter than plant ;)  [[User:Quercus mortus|Quercus mortus]] ([[User talk:Quercus mortus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
-:::::* The reasons you give for the change you propose would (if consistently executed) automatically lead to lengthy descriptions.
-:::::* No doubt there will be people who will think of a plant firstly as being herbaceous, or who will think of a plant firstly as something in the window sill (houseplants), or, for that matter, who will think of a plant as being a factory, or an undercover agent, etc, but the general meaning is not contested. See also [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/tree here].
-:::::* Trying to twist arguments is not going to make a good impression. I was perfectly clear that "descriptions" do matter, but that they serve for disambiguation. They are not there to describe anything, that is what Wikipedia pages are for. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:19, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
-:: Hi, it is normal the bot to make the same edit, because it is a bot :) It is configured to use only descriptions from [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Termininja/Taxonomy&action=edit this list] (without these in white color: #FFFFFF). How you see 99% of taxons already used some of these descriptions. If you want to suggest some new description, please do it on [[Wikidata talk:WikiProject Taxonomy]]. You can't manually search and change description, for example for all "tree" items, because this description has to be used on each taxon where it is applicable, this means that we need some rule which says unambiguously which plants are trees, which are flowers, etc. You can check also some of the previous discussions [[User_talk:Termininja/Archive#Descriptions|here]] --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
-::: Yes, I understand that bots make mistakes and that that's better than having no descriptions, I just think that your bot shouldn't overwrite human input. [[User:Quercus mortus|Quercus mortus]] ([[User talk:Quercus mortus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
-== fossil, the other way round ==
-Hi Termininja,
-We now have some thirty thousand items with "instance of fossil taxon", I think it would be nice if the English descriptions could follow that. Could you alter these, so that, for example, if "fossil taxon" is present, a description "genus of mammals" would become "genus of mammals (fossil)"? - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
-: ~[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=&search=%22+%28fossil%29%22&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=ct63w70ksni5ehfwpgp6qr3ws 28,000] are done, most of the others fossil taxons are without description at all because of missing parent item's rank or description. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::Thank you very much! I am a bit surprised to hear that there are so many items without a parent taxon. I would have expected some, but not many. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::I'll check it to be sure... --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::::We are now up to almost thirty-six thousand cases of "instance of fossil taxon", so that leaves some eight thousand unaccounted for ... - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:56, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::::: Yes, this what I mean is that the description or the rank of the parents is missing. For example {{Q|23798807}} has parent '''Clavatorella''' without description because his parent '''Globorotaliidae''' is with no description, etc. to '''Foraminifera''' with description '''"phylum of amoeboid protists"''' which is unknown for my bot. So, all items which include instance of '''fossil taxon''' are '''36,117'''. From them there are '''37''' without parent, '''27,754''' which are with "correct" description (in format: "rank of group (fossil)") and '''812''' with description in different format (for example: [[Q133276|"a marginocephalian dinosaur"]], my bot does not change item descriptions in unknown format). Finally left '''7,513''' without description but all they are with parent with unknown description (as Q133276), so my bot doesn't know from what group are they (insects, mammals, birds, etc.). --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:15, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::::So you would need to do another bot run first to put in descriptions? - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:56, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::::: I can do it but I don't know what description to put, for example to [[Q6412376]]. My bot know only for [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Termininja/Taxonomy&action=edit these] groups of taxons. I have to add another group, for example [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foraminifera forams], then Clavatorella will be "genus of forams (fossil)". So see [[User:Termininja/Taxonomy|this list]] and tell me what missing, then my bot can add it as description where is applicable... --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:09, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::Yes, there are some murky groups. I would be inclined to describe [[Q6412376]] as "genus of protists (fossil)" (although I have sometimes put in "genus of foraminifers (fossil)"). I am not sure what you mean by your list? - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::::These are all names (insects, birds, fungi, reptiles, etc.) which I use as descriptions in the taxon Items, so my bot works only with them. Tell me if you want my bot to use some other name as "foraminifers", or something else for some group of taxons. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:36, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::Well, as I said, I like "protists" for a lot of taxa. There seems to be no close agreement on groups within the protists. I dislike "trilobites", which should rather be "arthropods (fossil)". - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:42, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::Ok, I'll add this in the next bot run. Write me if remember something else. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
-== instance of list article ==
+Dear Termininja,
-It would be  nice if the bot only adds [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4117798&type=revision&diff=326487885&oldid=306395574 this] when "instance of list article" is the ''only'' statement. I daily find items with statements like that, which I have not been able to confirm as list articles. When there is more P31-statements, that may imply that statement is wrong and we should not add descriptions based on them. -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
-: My bot always checks if the '''instance of''' contains only one statement. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:59, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
+I hope you are doing good,
-== removal of "duplicated" alias ==
+I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.
-Hi, if I underestand correctly, your bot removes aliases that are equal to the label. I don't really get the point. If anything, that makes data a bit worse, since when someone changes the label, it totally disappears instead of remaining as an alias. --[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
-: Hi, the '''[[Help:Label|Label]]''' is the main ('''best known''') name of some item, and the '''[[Help:Aliases|Aliases]]''' are how the item is '''also known''', so, the label has to be different and not included in the aliases. If someone changes the label, there are 3 possibilities: the 1<sup>st</sup> - the current label is wrong, then it is wrong to be in the aliases also, the 2<sup>nd</sup> - the new label is more known, so in this case the user has to change the label to better one and also his responsibility is to move the old one as alias, and the 3<sup>rd</sup> - vandalism, then the edit has to be reverted.
-: By the way you know probably how works the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js|Merge Item Wikidata tool]]..., when two items are merged the tool checks their labels and if they are different, the one is moved as alias (only if it missing there), but if they are the same '''no one is moved as alias'''. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:07, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
-::I have not often come across a wrong label that was also present in the aliases. It just sometime happens that we change a label (remove complement / parentheses) and don't want to bother about checking the aliases. Still, it may useful if the old label is not completely lost. Obviously, in most cases the label is not present in the alias, so that leaves out the vast majority of items, but still I don't think there is any issue if an alias is equal to the label. Aliases are just an unsorted pile of strings that help finding an item. -[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:16, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::I think this kind of bot-support is good. I have myself had the ambition to remove aliases that has become the same as the label, but since I was occupied with 15 open windows at the same time, my hands was busy with other things. -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
+I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits.
-== Number of edits ==
+Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.
+The study will start in mid of March 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.
-Hi, please throttle your bot a little and use the API's [[mw:Manual:Maxlag parameter|maxlag]] parameter, you are causing ongoing database lag right now. If you don't adopt to this soon, your bot will probably be blocked in order to resolve the immediate issues. Cheers, [[User:Hoo man|Hoo man]] ([[User talk:Hoo man|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
-: Hi, my bot always checks (on each 60 sec) [https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics median lag] to be [[Wikidata:Bots#Bot_accounts|less than 1 min]], now I added also '''maxlag=5'''. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:57, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
-:: Great, thanks, that should fix the problems in question. Cheers, [[User:Hoo man|Hoo man]] ([[User talk:Hoo man|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:00, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
-::: No, it didn't. I am proposing a ban right now on the link on the right. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:02, 17 May 2016 (UTC) {{phabricator|T135471#2300359}}
-::::{{ping|JCrespo (WMF)|Hoo man|Termininja}} I have blocked the bot. Let us know at [[WD:AN]] when you think this is resolved and the block can be revoked. -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:08, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::::Thank you, I will. Please Termininja, talk to me on the phab task to solve the issues. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:12, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|JCrespo (WMF)}} what was the problem?! --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::::This is an infrastructure issue, not an wiki-specific issue, please follow the link on the right where I comment the problems and the solutions. --[[User:JCrespo (WMF)|JCrespo (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JCrespo (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
+If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at [email protected] or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link
-== author standard form ==
+I will contact you with the link to start the study.
-Hi Termininja,
+For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa
-There is another job you could do. We have {{P|428}}, but in practice this is hard to use. The literature commonly uses the standard form (say "L."), but at present one has to type in the full name in a "taxon author" field. It would be convenient if all items that hold a {{P|428}} could have the standard form (say "L.") as an alias ("also known as"). Then one could just copy-and-paste the standard form into the "taxon author" field and the system would make the link. It should be a simple job: 1) find all items with a {{P|428}} and 2) copy the contents of that field to the "also known as" field. It was already done for Linnaeus/L. but not for most of the others. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:29, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
+In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.
-: Probably the same and for {{P|835}}? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::I suppose, although it is hard to say, as the structure is entirely different: zoologists go by complete surnames, not by unique standard forms. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
-:::: {{done}} + "author citation (zoology)", they were less than 150. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:55, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
-::Thank you! I tried it and it works as expected. If you have time to spare, I noticed that many of the botanists do not have a description as yet, so it would help to add "botanist" there. This would be imperfect, as some of the older were both zoologists and botanists (they were "naturalists"), while for new ones they may deal with just fungi (they are "mycologists"), or algae (they are "phycologists"); and many users would like to see a nationality ("Swiss botanist"), but still a description would help. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
+Thank you for considering taking part in this research.
-== Please don't "guess" taxa names ==
+Regards
-Hi Termininja, I'm trying to connect the last three thousand taxa names to their parents and find more and more odd creations by your bot. An example is {{Q|12371333}}. Your bot created the taxon name ''Ogaviljane lutsern'' and the genus ''Ogaviljane'' (={{Q|21592060}}), but [[:et:Ogaviljane lutsern]] is about ''Medicago denticulata''. Please check you bot code. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
-: Related is the creation of misspellings like {{Q|26226438}} (as ''Ceratilella'') or {{Q|26226433}} (as ''Dirioxia''). --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:16, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
+[[User:Kholoudsaa|Kholoudsaa]] ([[User talk:Kholoudsaa|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
-== Invalid languages ==
-Your bot is [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2&diff=418806582&oldid=418463701 adding labels] in invalid languages (als, no, simple etc.). Please stop it. [[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
-: Don't worry, I only test it. By the way [[Help:Wikimedia_language_codes/lists/all|which language is invalid]] - [https://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erde als]:{{Q|131339}}, [https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorden no]:{{Q|9043}} or [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth simple]:{{Q|21480034}}? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:07, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
-:: As far as I remember: simple → en, als → gsw, bh → bho, be-x-old → be-tarask, no → nb... but there are more. [[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:17, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
-:::Can you give me some link for these "more", or where it is discussed? Thank you. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
-::::[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/MW/browse/master/includes/DefaultSettings.php;e61f2aee418b2a2895c114e380c4738b29f682c7$2876 Found some], I think these are all. [[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
-== Labels ==
-=== Labels from sitelinks ===
-Hi Termininja.
-I see your bot is taking labels from the various sitelinks. This is not a good idea. Take for example [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q292441&action=history the labels] your bot added to the item on ''Salsola stocksii''. Instead of the proper ''Salsola stocksii'' the bot added ''Haloxylon stocksii'' which belong on another item. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
-:  The problem comes from the "wrong" sitelink name. But actually this is not wrong because they are synonyms, and the idea is to can find some item by searching also by synonym. For this goal you know, we put the synonyms as alias in the item, and in case for warwiki were missing the both, so it is not big problem that ''Haloxylon stocksii'' is label and not alias... Anyway, thanks for this information, I'll skip such items, it will be very easy. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
-:::We have stopped putting in synonyms as aliases quite a while ago (it proves that many users don't understand that synonyms are 'wrong' names). In the item ''Salsola stocksii'' there should not be an alias ''Haloxylon stocksii'' and certainly not a label ''Haloxylon stocksii''. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
-:::: I didn't know for this. As alias was easy to find the item when you search it by synonym. I'm not sure that it is good idea each synonym to has separate item page. I'm agree that "synonyms are 'wrong' names", but maybe using of "instance of synonym" is not ok. I think that it will be better if all they are only mentioned in the main item in some way. Thanks again for the info. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:08, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
-=== Labels from GeoNames ===
-:Borrow this thread here!
-:Why has BotNinja added "Abborrskaer" as an English label to an item about {{Q|21975834}}? The name is Swedish, and ae is not interchangeable with ä in Swedish! -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-:: I don't know how should be the right name in English, but it came as alternative name from [http://www.geonames.org/search.html?q=Abborrsk%C3%A4r+Finland&country= www.geonames.org] because my bot match the names by regex [A-z]. I changed it to '''Abborrskär''' but maybe have to be Abborrskar? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-:::Ok, I see, that make sense! You will find many very strange names in GeoNames. {{smiley}} Is it possible to add "source:GeoNames" to the edit-comment? -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-::::Yes, No problem. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:09, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-== Population data from GeoNames ==
-In {{Q|5937}} your bot imported population data from geonames, but as geonames is basically also a Wiki this is not a really good source - they might even simply copied values from Wikipedia, so they look like a external source but in fact aren't. Especially the qualifier were set to wrong values - the reference date was 2012 and not 2014, and the determination method was not the census (which was done in 2011) but the combination of the census number with citizen registration data. I have fixed the data for this one item and added some more up-to-date and authoritative sourced values, but worry that a mass import of these numbers from geonames will include too much bad data. [[User:Ahoerstemeier|Ahoerstemeier]] ([[User talk:Ahoerstemeier|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:29, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-: In this item for '''population: 419,976''' is used database from 2015-05-23 with '''population_date: 2014-01-03'''. So if the data currently is changed and you updated this info in the item, it is ok. I already removed all {{P|459}} qualifiers for this claim from all bot edits. I didn't know that GeoNames is not reliable source, and actually I started to add these claims because of a lot of empty items like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21975876&oldid=373778774 this], which are created with sitelinks with information from GeoNames. I think if some item is created with information from GeoNames, it is normal the item to include all possible claims with this information, in other case this item has to be deleted. The problem in items like {{Q|5937}} is that I didn't check for other sitelinks and sources, but I already corrected this. Thanks for the info. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-:: Are you sure we are allowed to mass import data from GeoNames? GeoNames data is licensed as CC-BY which is not compatible with Wikidata's CC0. - [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] ([[User talk:Nikki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:27, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-::: This information is already in Wikipedia, so the other variant is to use {{P|143}} xxwiki. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
-== Units ==
-You bot has added to a lot of items height-values ([https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21974877&diff=424305794&oldid=424305792 example]), but without a unit this does not make sense. It could be meter, feet or anything else. Could you please add the unit to those statements? [[User:Steak|Steak]] ([[User talk:Steak|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:35, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
-: They shouldn't be many. I remember, when I started to add these values I missed the units but quickly this was corrected. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:02, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
-::Probably a bit less than 2000, because [[Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P2044]] lists 2086 statements without a unit, of which not all but I think most of them were created by your bot. [[User:Steak|Steak]] ([[User talk:Steak|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:54, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
-::: They are fixed, thanks --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
-== Coordinates (Geonames) ==
-Hi. FYI, these days [[Wikidata:Project_chat#Q32000000|on Project chat]] was raised the issue that coordinates imported from geonames are not of the best quality and another bot stopped to import them. --[[User:XXN|XXN]], 20:41, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
-== Transliterated labels to check ==
-Please check if these transliterated labels [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q597086&curid=561879&diff=523777738&oldid=516313683][https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2710200&curid=2606159&diff=523777757&oldid=514662591] are correct in Bulgarian. I suppose instead of the combination "Иа" there should be "Я". You can search also if there are more such labels for Moldovan and Romanian toponyms, since the combination "ea"/"ia" is common in Romanian language. [[User:XXN|XXN]], 20:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC) P.S. I had these items in my watchlist
-A related problem - [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21784816&diff=518344146&oldid=293138519 Турничени] for [[:ceb:Turnicheni|Turnicheni]] instead of Търничени? I'd say to skip all items where {{P|17}} is a Slavic country, since after a double transliteration frequently the result is wrong. --[[User:XXN|XXN]], 21:05, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
-: I'm agree, I'll fix them. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
-== ''Quercus thracica'' Stef. & Nedjalkov ==
-Hello Termininja,
-I noticed that you [https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B4%D1%8A%D0%B1&diff=6077422&oldid=5867508 added] the authority to [[:bg:Тракийски дъб]]. For the author Nedjalkov, there is the item {{Q|5553230}}. However, in {{Q|12296837}}, the author is {{Q|30103559}}. The given name appears to be Simeon according to a translation, so I believe {{Q|5553230}} should be corrected? I also suspect that the dates of birth and death are wrong, as they are the same as the ones of {{Q|6397749}}. Thanks in advance, [[User:Korg|Korg]] ([[User talk:Korg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
-: It is a synonym to [[Q157277|''Quercus cerris'']]. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:07, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
-::Indeed, thank you! After some search, the given name of the author in the [[:es:Simeon Nedjalkov|Spanish article]] was wrong, so I've corrected it (sources: [https://books.google.com/books?hl=bg&id=YxL0AAAAMAAJ&q=Недялков], [https://books.google.com/books?hl=bg&id=Wq0eAAAAIAAJ&q=Недялков]). I've also merged the Wikidata items. Kind regards, [[User:Korg|Korg]] ([[User talk:Korg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
-== Bot error 2015 ==
-Hello Termininja,
-your bot added vandalism in 2015 [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5234681&type=revision&diff=254862665&oldid=253796287]. I have removed it from the local Wikipedias.
-Sincerely, [[User:Taketa|Taketa]] ([[User talk:Taketa|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:13, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
-: Actually the vandalism was in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xylopia_richardii&oldid=738655677 enwiki] and my bot just took the image from there. But ok, thanks :) --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:06, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
-== spiders vs. arachnids ==
-I'm curious why you changed the spider labels from "genus of spider"/"species of spider" to "genus of arachnid"/"species of arachnid"? "Spider" is both more specific and easier to understand. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
-::Being specific is not necessarily desirable. The purpose of a "description" is disambiguation, to make it clear in what ballpark the item should be placed, that it is not, for example, a single by a popgroup. Being specific leads not only to many different descriptions, but also to many very poorly known ones. Using only the main groups keeps it simple, which surely is desirable. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
-:::In this case, I think "species of spider" is much better known than "species of arachnid". This is way we generally use descriptions like "species of bird" rather than "spceies of ornithurid". But of course whatever I suggest, you are going to disagree with. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:25, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
-:::::Very likely, "spider" is better known than "arachnid", but that is not the point. It is the non-spider arachnids which are of concern here. It would be possible to split birds into who knows how many groups, some of which are well-known and some not so well-known. Being specific does not help the general reader, at all. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
-== Translation ==
-Hello, for the translations of descriptions, your bot doesn't know the translation of "species of plant" in french. It's "espèce de plantes".
-: Thanks, I will let him know --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
-== Remove all the "fictional human" metadata descriptions, inserted by your bot, replace it by "fictional character" or manually by the "[title] character" ==
-For example: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1245404&diff=prev&oldid=256400015 (where it's '''NOT EVEN A HUMAN AT ALL'''). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 09:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
-== Little problem with your bot from the past ==
-Although a mistake has been made in the past, your bot wrote about a value that is a city in Eswatini is a "river" ([https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q858539&diff=256119225&oldid=238940518 see here]). From here to there, I think that maybe it also occurred on other values. Please check your bot that he'll never do that mistake again. Thanks, [[User:Euro know|Euro know]] ([[User talk:Euro know|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
-== {{Q|237350}} does not imply {{Q|23038290}} ==
-Hi Termininja,
-please fix your current bot errors. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:48, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
-[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q17242103&diff=prev&oldid=1090297874 Here] your bot is removing a reference. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
-: {{done}} --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
-: I don't think this [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotNinja is done]. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:33, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
-:: Some example? I don't think there are some left updates with removed ref.. --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
-::: E.g. {{Q|1679834}} has status {{Q|237350}} but is not a {{Q|23038290}}. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
-:::: Hm, I thought that [[Q23038290|fossil taxon]] is used for both - fossil and extinct taxons, at least this is what is written in the item aliases. Is there some other item for extinct taxon, because when I select ''extinct taxon'' it redirects me to ''fossil taxon''? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:38, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
-::::: An alias is a bad guide for actions. EN description is: „''taxon described on the basis of fossil material''“. The proper term is {{Q|310891}} „''organism of taxon are still living or died out in Holocene''“. Please revert your changes. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:21, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
-:::::: So, to understand that for all extinct in Holocene species the correct taxon is "extant taxon"? I'll check which of them are such and ill fix them.... But why this item is not used? --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
-== Maxlag ==
-Please respect [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Maxlag_parameter Maxlag]. --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
-== Q310890 ==
-Whether a taxon is monotypic depends on the classification used. Many taxa have changed that status repeatedly as classification systems change.  It is better to describe something as {{P|31}} {{Q|16521}}, because that will ''not'' change. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
-== [[User:BotNinja]] blocked ==
-Your bot doesn't seem to be respecting [[:mw:Manual:Maxlag]] and is editing too fast. Your bot appears to have been blocked for this already multiple times. Please fix your code and share link to the commit where you fixed your code so we can verify it. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
-: [[User:Multichill]] Can you recheck the logs again, because I even do at least 1 sec sleep between edits ([https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135471#2300457 how was suggested 4 years ago]) --[[User:Termininja|Termininja]] ([[User talk:Termininja|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
-::That's not how it works. If the maxlag is too high your bot shouldn't be doing any edits at all. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:02, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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