Many of the ideological supporters of the Silk Road have described its sprawling online black market for drugs as an experiment in victimless crime and a nonviolent alternative to the bloody turf wars of the streets. But prosecutors in the trial of Ross Ulbricht, the 30-year-old accused of running that anonymous bazaar, have pointed to one conversation they say shows the contrary: That the Silk Road's boss was willing to resort to the drug trade's most violent measures when it suited his needs.
On Monday, in the final hours before the the Department of Justice rested its case against Ulbricht, prosecutor Timothy Howard read aloud from a long series of private messages retrieved from the Silk Road's market server and user forum. Those messages capture what seem to be a grisly nadir for the Silk Road's pseudonymous administrator known as the Dread Pirate Roberts. Over the course of just a few days, his scheme spirals from merely tracking down a blackmailer to intimidate him, to hiring Hell's Angels to kill that blackmailer, to paying those same hitmen a total of $650,000 to kill four more people.
Ulbricht, who the prosecutors have sought to prove is that Dread Pirate Roberts, hasn't been charged with murder-for-hire in his Southern District of New York case, though he faces charges that include conspiracies to sell narcotics, launder money and more. (He does, however, face murder-for-hire charges in a separate case in Baltimore.) In fact, the prosecution admitted in court that the purported victims of the Silk Road killings were never found, and that Canadian police couldn't even locate records for anyone with their names. (Ulbricht's defense attorneys declined WIRED's request for comment on the message log, saying they'll respond on the trial's closing arguments.)
Even so, the prosecution took pains to read the entire conversation to the jury because it's intended to show them the darkest side of the Silk Road's short history. Here's that verbatim conversation, edited for clarity and brevity, with times in 24-hour Greenwich Mean Time as they were originally marked.
The chain of events begins with an anxious message to the Dread Pirate Roberts from someone named "FriendlyChemist," claiming to be the supplier to a drug dealer called "Lucydrop," who he accuses of scamming him in partnership with Roberts. If Roberts doesn’t help him to recoup money he owes, FriendlyChemist says he'll reveal identifying information on 24 Silk Road dealers and thousands of customers he obtained by installing malware on Lucydrop’s machine.
Roberts tells FriendlyChemist to put him in touch with his creditors and he'll help to resolve the issue. Soon, someone using the name "Redandwhite" and claiming to be a member of the Hell's Angels contacts Roberts, telling him that he is the one to whom FriendlyChemist owes money.
Roberts, always thinking of ways to expand Silk Road's already massive drug trade, first tries to persuade the Hell's Angels to sell their bulk narcotics on his website. But he also hints that he "wouldn't mind" if the Angels killed FriendlyChemist and solved his blackmail problem. Roberts gives the Angels FriendlyChemist's personal information, which has been shared with him by one of the blackmailer's drug dealer associates.
Redandwhite 3/25/2013 10:00: I was asked to contact you. We are the people friendlychemist owes money to. He tells us that you owe him money and a long boring story about some of this and some of that. As far as we are concerned - we gave him the product. Where it went and how does not matter. We hold him and him only responsible for the missing product/money.We don't care if you stole it from him/borrowed it from him or anything. It was his responsibility to pay for it. He asked me to contact you anyways. What did you want to talk to us about?
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/26/2013 18:27: Sorry for the delayed response and thank you for getting in touch. We've had some technical difficulties the past 24 hours I've had to deal with. Just to be clear, I do not owe him any money, but he has told me his situation and wants my help. I'm not entirely sure what the best action to take is, but I wanted to be in communication with you to see if we can come to a conclusion that works for everyone.
friendlychemist aside, we should talk about how we can do business. Obviously you have access to illicit substances in quantity, and are having issues with bad distributors. If you don't already sell here on Silk Road, I'd like you to consider becoming a vendor. Many people here purchase in bulk as well as retail quantities. Being a vendor, you'll have the protection that dealing anonymously in bitcoin provides, and you'll have protection against people like friendlychemist ripping you off because all transactions are conducted through my escrow. I encourage you to read the wiki and forum ... and consider becoming a vendor here.
So, if there is anything I can do as the admin here to help you get involved in Silk Road, or anything I can do to help with your situation with friendlychemist, please just let me know.
-DPR
Redandwhite 3/26/2013 20:08: That is interesting. How much is it possible to sell on here if we listed every product far cheaper than everyone else? We have a majority hold over most of the movement of products in western Canada (one of the main drug ports to North America). I have researched your site and the concept seems interesting to me (as long as it is anonymous as everyone makes it out to be). We produce LSD/nBome/Ketamine/MDMA/Meth/GHB and import cocaine and heroin in massive bulk amounts. We have a lot of workers who run their own sub distribution networks for the streets, but if it is lucrative we are always looking to expand.
In my partners eyes all they will see is that because of online dealing we are out 700k so I'm not sure they will go for it.
FriendlyChemist refuses to meet up with us because of what he fears will happen. People are starting to suspect that he will go to the police, which is not a problem because he would never be able to give up anyone of importance since he only has ever had contact with low level people in our group and they always take precautions so that even if someone were to turn informant, they would not be able to get any charges to stick. It's a shame because he moved a fair amount of product.
If you can get FriendlyChemist to meet up with us, or pay us his debt then I'm sure I would be able to get people in our group to give this online side of the business a try. As it stands right now, there are people looking for him and since he has avoided our group, I'm not sure what will happen since he owes us money and is avoiding us.
I've looked around your site, and the prices are absolutely absurd. I'm assuming most people on here selling are 3 or 4 tiers below the actual producers or distributors?
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/27/2013 23:38: In my eyes, FriendlyChemist is a liability and I wouldn't mind if he was executed, but then you'd be out your $700k. I don't think he is going to come up with the money because he seems very desperate. I'm not sure how much you already know about the guy, but I have the following info and am waiting on getting his address:
Blake Krokoff
Lives in an apartment near White Rock Beach
Age: 34
City: White Rock
Province: British Columbia
Wife + 3 kids
Let me know if it would be helpful to have his full address.
In those categories, I think you could be doing over $1M in sales a week within a few months. It is hard to estimate because it depends on how much market share you get and also the site as a whole is constantly growing. You will need to become very proficient at stealth shipping and packaging if you aren't already. Think vacuum sealers and leaving no forensic evidence on your packages. You will also want to ship from multiple drop points so you can't be traced back via your (fake) return address.
[Long description of Silk Road's commission scheme and shipping security tips.]
Regarding the safety and anonymity, we've been operating for over 2 years now in the open as a high profile target and are still going strong. If you take the necessary precautions, and use the technology, I think you can operate very securely and efficiently here, maybe more so than some of your current operations.
Redandwhite 3/28/2013 9:01: I already have that information but thank you. 1M a week sounds like it would be worth selling on here, once we know exactly how everything works. Even if commission was 15% it would not matter, as we lose more than 15% doing it on the streets with street level guys getting robbed or arrest and losing product etc.
Also, we have kidnapped friendlychemists partner Xin already and are on the hunt for friendlychemist. I will keep you updated on the developments. So far though we are liking what we see with this site and this could be a good partnership for both of us. As far as I can see, this site lacks any big time suppliers. It appears it is mostly it is street level independents that are buying small amounts (1oz - 1 kilo at a time) and selling on here.
We have the product and the man power to do big things here. Forgive me, but it all seems a little too good to be true right now so I will need some time to really research this before I make any sort of commitment.
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/28/2013 16:59: I understand, and that is great news about Xin. If I understand the situation, he is the one responsible for your loss.
You should definitely take your time and start slowly. I would hate for you to make a mistake and be left with a bad experience. Just let me know if you need anything. Also, you should look into PGP. Many customers like to encrypt their receiving address so you should know how to decrypt it.
When you are ready, let me know what account you want to sell with and I'll cover the $500 security deposit for you.
Redandwhite 3/28/2013 20:32: We are all familiar with PGP as we have been using it for years via email linked to our smartphones. It's the only way we communicate with each other aside from in person, since phone calls are not secure.
There is no loss anymore, also. We were able to recover all of our missing product when we grabbed Xin. After some "questioning" he admitted he was intending on moving to a different country and setting up a new seller account on this site. We don't take too kindly to thieves. He's gone.
I appreciate your offer to waive the fee, but If we were to sell on here I would like to pay the same as everyone else. Very kind of you though. I will be in touch.
Meanwhile, FriendlyChemist continues to threaten Roberts that he'll release his collection of Silk Road users' private information if he's not given $700,000 to cover his debts. Roberts tells him to wait, and contacts Redandwhite to ask him for help finding FriendlyChemist's location so that he can "scare" him. But soon they begin to instead discuss the possibility of the Angels killing FriendlyChemist and negotiate how much Roberts will pay for the murder.
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/29/2013 22:55: Hi again R&W,
I hate to come to you with a problem when we are just starting to get to know one another, but Blake (FriendlyChemist) is causing me problems. Are you still looking for him or now that you've found Xin have you given up? I would like to put a bounty on his head if it's not too much trouble for you. What would be an adequate amount to motivate you to find him?
Necessities like this do happen from time to time for a person in my position. I have others I can turn to, but it is always good to have options and you are close to the case right now. Hopefully this is something you are open to and can be another aspect of our business relationship.
Regards,
DPR
Redandwhite 3/30/2013 00:42: What is the problem? We usually tend to stay away from hits as they are bad for business and bring a lot of heat. Is it a problem that can be resolved or does it need to be dealt with sternly?
As of right now, we don't care about him because we retrieved more from Xin than what he took from us, and he also paid for it with his life. Debt paid in our books. As far as rates go, we don't have a flat rate for things like that. It's on a case by case basis. Usually we pay our hitters a percentage of what the person owes +/- how much they can retrieve. If it's strictly a hit because they don't want the person around anymore it's also different. Does he owe you money or do you just not want him around anymore? I can send a couple of my guys to do recon to find out exactly where he is right now in the meantime until I hear back from you.
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/30/2013 1:55: If you can find his location, that may be enough for me to scare him off. He is trying to blackmail me. Just let me know what you need to make this worth your while.
Redandwhite 3/30/2013 3:31: If I find his location, and you use it against him to scare him, there is a chance he will switch locations again. Speaking from experience, it will become a lot more difficult to find him again after that once he knows there are people capable of finding, him looking
for him.
Further, the people we use to do the recon are the hitter themselves. I don't think they will be interested in continuing looking for him if there will be a small sum to be split between them just to find his address.
If you have your mind set on just finding his location, I can talk to them and get them to get it for you for a fee (not sure what amount as usually when we hunt someone, there is more involved after we find them). If you want to deal with him the other way, we can talk about that too, but price varies on the situation.
If you want it to look like an accident, it would cost a lot more. It wouldn't be suspicious. He would just leave home one day and not return.
If you don't care what it looks like, it would be cheaper than the accident. We use professionals and not street level hoodlums who always end up fucking things up. How much does he owe you and how much are you willing to pay? If there are funds retrieved, how much would we keep from what he has when we get him(if he has anything) ?
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/30/2013 15:41: He doesn't owe me anything, but he is threatening to expose the identities of thousands of my clients that he was able to acquire working with Xin if I don't pay him off. As you don't take kindly to thieves, this kind of behavior is unforgivable to me. Especially here on Silk Road, anonymity is sacrosanct.
It doesn't have to be clean, and I don't think there are any funds to be retrieved
Redandwhite 3/30/2013 21:48: Price for clean is 300k+ USD
Price for non-clean is 150-200k USD depending on how you want it done. These prices pay for 2 professional hitters including their travel expenses and work they put in. We can use out of town hitters if you want as well, but I would not suggest them because they come with an extra cost and you don't seem to care how he is taken care of.
When would you like this done?
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/31/2013 8:59: Don't want to be a pain here, but the price seems high. Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for $80k. Are the prices you quoted the best you can do?
I would like this done asap as he is talking about releasing the info on Monday
Redandwhite 3/31/2013 11:16: I'm sorry, but we can't do anything for that price. Best I can do is 150 and even that is pushing it. Since you need a rush job done, usually we would charge even more. In the interest of business relationship to be, I could do 150. No lower. If 150 does not work for you, we are going to have to pass. We use professionals, and we pay them a good price.
Always send them out in a team of 2+.. 75k each for expenses and the job is a fair amount I think.
We have one of his associates, and we're paying him to set him up for us. We'll pay for that ourselves on our end. I'm guessing you will not be able to pay by cash, so how would payment work since you need it done before monday?
Redandwhite 3/31/2013 13:32: If you want it done by Monday that only leaves today. It's Sunday morning here. We always seem to miss each other online, so I will leave a bitcoin address in case you want to pay that way. Probably best so we can get used to dealing with bitcoins anyways since we will be selling here more than likely in the next week or two. I will check the computer in about 10 hours and If I see that you do want to go ahead with this, and payment has been sent we'll do it today. 1MwvS1idEevZ5gd428TjL3hB2kHaBH9WTL If you want picture confirmation of the job afterwards, give me random numbers and I will have them write them beside him and take a picture for you.
Dread Pirate Roberts 3/31/2013 17:00: Thank you R&W. I've only ever commissioned the one other hit, so I'm still learning this market. I have no problem putting my faith in you and I am sure you will do a good job. The exchange rate is above 90 right now, so at $90/btc, $150k is about 1670 btc. If the market tanks in the next few days, I will send more. Here are some random numbers for a picture: 83746102
Here is the transaction # for 1670 btc to 1MwvS1idEevZ5gd428TjL3hB2kHaBH9WTL4a0a5b6036c0da84c3eb9c2a884b6ad72416d1758470e19fb1d2fa2a145b5601
Good luck and be safe,
DPR
Redandwhite 3/31/2013 23:02: I received the payment. I appreciate the offer if bitcoins lower in value. We know where he is. He'll be grabbed tonight. I'll update you.
Redandwhite 4/1/2013 22:06: Your problem has been taken care of. They seized a bunch of stuff he had with him at the time as well. They said he had a couple laptops and a bunch of usb sticks. Is there anything of that, that belongs to you? They questioned him and he spilled everything he knew. He said that he and Xin were actually working together on this scheme to blackmail you and that they were brought in by a 3rd guy who has been selling on here for a couple years who is a scam artist. Apparently he makes selling accounts, sells for a while and then pulls a big scam and he just keeps creating new accounts after he does his scams. They got that guys name also , I will give that to you free of charge when I meet them to get the picture and computer hardware they got. Rest easy though, because he won't be blackmailing anyone again. Ever.
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/2/2013 00:55: Excellent work. Please send any info you can get on this third party along with the picture. The picture can be uploaded here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/upload
I have no need for any of his possessions, so you can do what you want with that stuff.
Thank you again for your assistance,
DPR
This is where a single murder-for-hire turns into five: The scammer associate of FriendlyChemist that Redandwhite describes is none other than "Tony76," also known as "nipplesuckcanuck," a dealer who cheated Silk Road users out of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin in April 2012. Roberts sees an opportunity to take out another of his enemies. Eventually three more paid killings are tacked on, as Roberts agrees to have Tony76's housemates murdered to simplify the job and possibly recoup his stolen bitcoins.
Redandwhite 4/2/2013 12:59: Okay my guys are here now and here is the information they extracted from FriendlyChemist before the deed.
They were working with a guy - real name of Andrew Lawsry of Surrey. Apparently this is the guy that turned them on to frauding people on here. He said that he started selling on silkroad a couple of years ago and since then he has made a career of making new seller profiles to sell and then rip people off. He told them how to start on here and how to rip people off and asked for a percentage in return. He said that he showed them everything about how to sell and how to pull it off and all that stuff. He didn't remember all of the account names he uses or used but he said that tony76 and nipplesuckcanuck were two of his names and that he has other seller accounts for people he set up or is running himself.
I also went and looked at all of the possessions they seized from him. The laptops were empty besides Tor and a couple other programs. The USB sticks he had were packed full of text files with thousands of addresses from all around the world. We destroyed everything we seized from him, but I kept a text file that was named "blackmail.txt" that had a ton of addresses in it like the other text files. Since you mentioned that he was trying to blackmail you with that information, I kept that text file in case you needed it. If you don't need it, let me know and I will destroy it.
I also have the picture with me. A question before I send it to you. I am not extremely good with all this anonymity computer operations, but I know that pictures store GPS information and the likes that police can use in evidence. Is it safe to send it over here like that? We took care of him at one of our safe houses so that worries me a little. I trust your judgement, so I was wondering if there was a way to delete the GPS information from a picture before I send it over the internet. Another quick question regarding bitcoins. How do we withdraw them? I paid the hitters with my own money until I figure out how bitcoins work exactly. As I understand it, mtgox is the main exchange. Is it safe to make an account there to withdraw? Can they link it back to SilkRoad? They require verification which bothers me a little so I figured you would know the best way
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/2/2013 20:55: Yes, you can destroy the info. Thanks for taking a look first. [Roberts offers advice on removing image GPS metadata and bitcoin security.]
tony76 and nipplesuckcanuck were both blights on an otherwise great track record. What do you think about going after Andrew Lawsry? This guy has probably ripped off millions of $ at this point from me and the rest of the Silk Road community.
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/4/2013 6:47: Are you sure the name isn't Andrew Lawry? Or some other variant? I can't find a surname anywhere of Lawsry. And do you have any other info at all on this person?
Redandwhite 4/5/2013 4:40: I have sent the file. I had to make sure I did the information removal properly before I sent it so that it did not send GPS information with the picture in case it was intercepted somehow. Please delete the picture as soon as you take a look at it. As for the name, It's Andrew Lawsry aka tony76 aka nipplesuck canuck aka some other names I do not know. From what I got from FriendlyChemist , he has other names on here as well or is working with other vendors on here like I mentioned before. As for your question about going after him, I would need to do some asking around to see what kind of information my guys can get on him. Would you like me to look into it?
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/5/2013 7:29: Yes please. If you can find him, I would like to know.
Redandwhite 4/5/2013 10:22: Did you get the picture? Let me know so I can delete the rest of the ones I have.
Finding him would be possible. I can almost guarantee it, but I stop short of guaranteeing anything unless I am 100% certain I can get the job done. I do that so I don't look like an idiot if I can't accomplish something I have said I can. We have a huge stake in the trafficking on this side of the country, so If he is grabbing product from anyone, we would be able to find out who and get to him. Would you want him dealt with if possible? I ask because I don't want to send people to hunt for him, and then nothing come of it once they find him.
Please don't forget to delete that picture
In the middle of their mafia-style killing plans, Dread Pirate Roberts also suggests that Redandwhite set up Torchat, an anonymous, encrypted instant messaging system. But the program doesn't work initially, and the two alternate between tech troubleshooting and planning a quadruple murder.
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/5/2013 18:49: I've received the picture and deleted it. Thank you again for your swift action.
I would like to go after Andrew, though it is important to me to make sure he is who Blake said he is. I would rather miss the chance to take him out, than hit an innocent person. If he is our man, then he likely has substantial assets to be recovered. Perhaps we can hold him and question him?
I'd like to connect with you in real-time chat to discuss this with you further. I have a secure system set up that we can connect through. It requires downloading the chat client pidgin, and the plugin off-the-record (OTR) and some basic configuration to connect. If you are open to the idea, I'll send you the instructions. This is how I communicate with my closest people.
If not, we can keep it here, but it is much slower.
Redandwhite 4/5/2013 21:48: It was my pleasure. I hate thieves almost as much as I hate informants.
About holding and questioning someone. It adds to the risk somewhat the longer we have a target/transport a target. The safest way is to get in, do it, and get out as soon as possible. Are there any way to verify he is the intended target? Making him speak would not be a problem and of course we would not have him done in if he was not right person we were looking for.
Since you said you'd like to go after him, I will send 2 of my guys to go do some recon right now and find out what I can about him and get back to you immediately. We can discuss price later once we know more.
As for the real time chat, send the information over and I will have my tech guy look at it. He handles all my security with phones and pgp blackberries so he would probably know better than me how to set everything up
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/6/2013 00:57: My gut tells me he's our man, but I would hate to be wrong. Your men were able to get info from Blake, maybe they can do the same with Andrew. He is likely sitting on many thousands of stolen bitcoins perhaps tens of thousands, so I would think we'd want to "work him over" to get those funds back. They could be on an encrypted drive only he can unlock. Taking him out would erase those coins forever. In the process of getting him to return the funds, I hope we could confirm that he is indeed the one Blake says he is. Here are the instructions for accessing the chat server from a windows computer: [long list of instructions.]
Redandwhite 4/6/2013 9:01: I got all the information correct, but when I try to connect it is stuck on "connecting" I have the correct port that tor is listening on
Redandwhite 4/6/2013 12:20: I have found out who Andrew is exactly and who he was picking up his supply from. I talked to his supplier and he said he mainly grabbed Heroin,Coke,MDMA and LSD. He said he always goes through phases where he grabs a ton of product, and then stops for a couple of weeks and then starts again. Sounds consistent with what Friendly chemist said about how they run the stealing from the buyers on here. He said last he heard from Andrew (a couple of days ago), he said he was planning on moving out of the province because things were too hot down here. That might be because he has found out about Xin and FriendlyChemist and is now scared.
I also had a chance to actually sit down and talk to my hitters about exactly what happened and how everything went down in detail. They said that FriendlyChemist was pleading with them and offering to give up Andrew, and that Andrew was a seller here by the name of Tony and a bunch of other names (nipplesuckcanuck, amongst others). He
said that when he first turned them on to the idea of doing this big scheme that he would often talk about how he stole so much money, and that he once stole 15,000 online currency coins from 1 person on this site, and how easy stealing money was on here.
Does that ring a bell? Did he steal 15,000 BitCoins from a buyer here? That would be an easy way to find out if this Andrew person is the same person you think it is. Do you have his transaction history to see if he did actually steal 15,000 BitCoins from someone? I trust my hitters to do a good job, and they are excellent at what they do..Which is take people out, or interrogate/scare people, and they told me they didn't think he was lying.
The info I have on him right now, is that he works/lives with 3 other people and they all sell product together. They are planning on leaving the province soon (I don't know when). He is in contact with his supplier, who actually through a line of middlemen gets his product from us a the end of the food chain.
Do you want to deal with this Andrew guy, or do you want me to put the team on standby?
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/6/2013 20:37: I am confident enough that it is him to move forward. Can we round up all 4 of them, separate them, and get them to out each other and give up their stolen money?
Recovering the funds is going to be tricky if you aren't in direct contact with your team, or if your team doesn't know how bitcoins work.
If you have the other usernames FC mentioned, that will help me piece together things on my end.
Regarding chat, there should be a certificate you have to accept when it connects. does that show up?
Redandwhite 4/6/2013 22:47: It won't even connect. It just is stuck on connecting.nI copy and pasted all the information for the login and password etc so it should be good. I also checked tor to see what port to use. Won't connect for some reason. Do I have to fill in any more of the details? Local
alias or anything like that?
As for getting all 4, it would be possible but they would have to get them all at once so that one does not get away. I would send 4 hitters instead of 2 to make sure there was no fuck ups. I'm not sure when they are planning on leaving the province though. The guy that has been feeding me information on him says the guy is a degenerate gambler so I don't know how much funds he will have on hand. He says he owes a ton of people money too. My guess is that he is pulling these scams to fuel his gambling problem like a degenerate. It would make sense why he is also teaching other people how to scam as well when it has been so profitable for him to keep to himself.. probably because he owes them money and offers to show them how to do it, as a way of paying them back.
I will have them take whatever they have on hand, but I don't want my hitters to be hanging around with them for too long since they are doing 4 people.
Unfortunately there are no bulk discounts for jobs like this. Usually the price goes up the more difficult it is. Since you are easy to work with, I would be able to offer you the same rate as last time x 4. If that works for you, let me know. If it doesn't, please also let me know as soon as you can so I can call my guys off. They've been doing info gathering this whole time on Andrew and his crew
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/6/2013 23:27: Ok, let's just hit andrew and leave it at that. Try to recover the funds, but if not, then not.
How much do you need for this?
I'm not sure what the problem could be with chat. Please upload some screenshots of the settings you are using and the main pidgin window.
Redandwhite 4/8/2013 7:11: If you want to hit Andrew only, I can have it done for 150 just like last time. We wouldn't be able to do it at their place though because there are always at least a few of them there from what I'm told since it is their home/office. So we wouldn't be able to recover any of his things. It's up to you what you want done, but we can't send hitters into their house/office if they are only doing one of them. Do you not need the people he is working with dealt with also? If they are all working with him, it means they are doing the same thing as him. It would also be easier for the hitters to get them in there so that they have a chance of recovering anything if he has anything there. It would also be better because it wouldn't be a public hit. If we take just Andrew, there's nothing to say that the other 3 won't start up somewhere else with new selling IDs. It is of course up to you what
you want done and how, since you are they client.
I was pretty certain you would want them all taken care, so I had an associate send me a couple of his out of town hitters to accompany our local hitters. It's not a problem as I can just send them back and cover their travel expenses, but I obviously would like for them to not go back empty handed. My mistake for not confirming what you wanted before I had the extra hitters sent down, but it's not really a problem if you don't want the others
dealt with. I had a hard time connecting to silkroad for the last 24 hours or I would have asked before having them sent down. So if you would like to do the others as well, I would be able to have it done for 500k USD. If you do not want all of them,and just Andrew it would be 150k. I would prefer to do all 4 as it would be better than having to get Andrew somewhere else and have no chance of recovering any potential product/money he may have. Anything recovered would be split 50/50 with you. If you are certain he has that much product/money I think it would make
sense to do it at their home/officer. It's up to you though, just let me know what do do as soon as you can since I do not know when they are leaving the province, and if they do leave the province the price would go up exponentially.
If you would like just Andrew done send 150k USD to the same address you sent the other funds to.
If you would like all 4 of them done, and product/money recovered from there send 500k to the same address you sent the other funds to
As for pidgin, my tech guy is not here to do the picture gps scrubbing, so I will just send the screenshots of pidgin as soon as he is able to stop by. I will write down the settings in the meantime. [long list of pidgin settings]
I'm not sure why it is not working. It is just stuck on "Connecting" every time I try and connect. Latest version of tor/pidgin/OTR.
In the morning I will check bitcoin wallet first thing, and I will know what you want me to do based on how much you sent, and I will have it done asap. Speak to you soon
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/8/2013 18:50: I see your problem, you need port 9150, not 9151. 9151 is the control port, 9150 is the socks port. hmm... ok, I'll defer to your better judgement and hope we can recover some assets from them. $500k in btc (3,000 @ $166/btc) has been sent to: 1MwvS1idEevZ5gd428TjL3hB2kHaBH9WTL
transaction number: e7db5246a810cb76e53314fe51d2a60f5609bb51d37a4df105356efc286c6c67
Redandwhite 4/15/2013 10:11: That problem was dealt with. I'll try to catch you online to give you details. Just wanted to let you know right away so you have one less thing to worry about
Dread Pirate Roberts 4/15/2013 15:41: thanks, see you on chat
