Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/04/Category:Ireland
Per w:WP:IRE-CATS and w:WP:DABCONCEPT we should move this to Category:Republic of Ireland or Category:Ireland (state) and move the island to the base name, the ROI would show up as a sub cat but a hatnote to it and the DAB page can also be included. Alternatively it could be a DAB with the island and state listed first, or it could be left where it is and a hatnote added for the island and other uses. See Category talk:Ireland for past discussion. IT Wikipedia has "Categoria:Irlanda" for the island at the base name even though the ROI is at the base name in the article namespace. If this is implemented then we would then have Category:Foo in Ireland with Foo in the Republic of Ireland and Foo in Northern Ireland, for example Category:Roads in the Republic of Ireland and Category:Roads in Northern Ireland would be in Category:Roads in Ireland. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- I have now created Category:Ireland (disambiguation). Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:00, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- What about pre-1921 Ireland? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- That covered the whole island. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale: I think I misundertood. I thoughy you were suggesting that Category:Ireland (island) should be the base category, with Category:History of Ireland (island) etc as subcategories. But you're actually suggesting that Category:Ireland should encompass the whole island. That works for me. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Category:Ireland (island) is the whole island, yes I am proposing that that should be at Category:Ireland so Category:History of Ireland (island) would be at Category:History of Ireland and could contain Category:History of the Republic of Ireland and Category:History of Northern Ireland. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale: I think I misundertood. I thoughy you were suggesting that Category:Ireland (island) should be the base category, with Category:History of Ireland (island) etc as subcategories. But you're actually suggesting that Category:Ireland should encompass the whole island. That works for me. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- That covered the whole island. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- What about pre-1921 Ireland? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- We must have a cat for the island and others for the entities on it. We should do the same for the Island of Cyprus. --E4024 (talk) 09:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- There isn't separate cats for the island of Cyprus so that's moot here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know what moot means but we have quite a separation in Cyprus: UN Zone, Sovereign Bases Area, TRNC, and the southern part that continues to use the name of Republic of Cyprus. --E4024 (talk) 11:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I was saying that because there is no separate category for each, there is no debate on which should be at Category:Cyprus. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks; sometimes please consider people (like me) who have learned English in school or language courses please. --E4024 (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I was saying that because there is no separate category for each, there is no debate on which should be at Category:Cyprus. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know what moot means but we have quite a separation in Cyprus: UN Zone, Sovereign Bases Area, TRNC, and the southern part that continues to use the name of Republic of Cyprus. --E4024 (talk) 11:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- There isn't separate cats for the island of Cyprus so that's moot here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- No opposition in months, Crouch, Swale, if you want to go ahead and make the changes. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
The result was moved, inline with w:WP:DABCONCEPT, ROI can easily be found as it is in the hatnote and appears as a subcat. Note that Countries of Europe template still needs to be fixed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:11, 28 June 2018 (UTC)