Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Statue of Bartolomeu Dias in Cape Town

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Files in Category:Statue of Bartolomeu Dias in Cape Town

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The statue was completed in 1960 by Salvador Barata Feyo (1899–1990). There is no freedom of panorama in South Africa. The copyright term of the country is 50 years, and the image can be undeleted in 2041.

A1Cafel (talk) 02:56, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@A1Cafel: Hmm, it looked older. Looking back through the photos, it has 1952 written on it though (but not 1960?). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Talking with @Discott: , he suggests that this is a government work, which per en:Copyright_law_of_South_Africa#Copyright_term would be copyrighted for 50 years from publication - which would have expired in 2002. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel possible interference of COM:URAA? U.S. copyright establishment for eligible international works, making the public monument only acceptable by January 1, 2056 (95+1 years after 1960). Of course, {{Not-free-US-FOP}} is only valid for monuments from countries with commercial FoP (and can only be used for South African monuments if South Africa has now complete FoP). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JWilz12345: I wasn't meaning US copyright law, sorry, but SA law - the article I linked to above states that "Government works are protected for fifty years from first publication". Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel sculptural works are almost always at mercy with U.S. law, unless they are already in public domain on the date the URAA took effect in the country. Since this is a sculpture (not an architecture), U.S. law also needs to be considered. See also the re-deletion of several Slovenian sculptures because of still existing U.S. copyright even if the works are in public domain locally (in Slovenia). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The impact of COM:URAA in this case is both interesting and something I am unsure of. I will ask Prof Schonwetter at the University of Cape Town's Intellectual Property Unit about this for a more informed answer than I could possibly provide. Sorry for my delayed reply. -Discott (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Discott URAA can be ignored actually, since we have the template {{Not-free-US-FOP}} which can be applied to all images of all copyrighted South African monuments – provided that South Africa successfully implements FoP. If there is no valid FoP, URAA needs to be considered. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination; undelete in 2048 unless changes to FOP law in South Africa are realized. —holly {chat} 21:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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