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3 April 2021

2 April 2021

1 April 2021

  • 23:5223:52, 1 April 2021 diff hist +10 Æsir–Vanir War→‎Historicist basis Tag: Reverted
  • 23:3923:39, 1 April 2021 diff hist −950 Æsir–Vanir WarNone of this is my "original research", I've listed from the sources and information present on the articles. Again these contributions were substantial & the reason for the changes were detailedly explained in the summaries. You give no good justification for reverting them, besides making deprecating comments on the contributions of other users ("bizarre", "don't know the scholarship", "original research - i.e pulls it out of nowhere). Take it to Talk or keep getting reverted. I'll start it 4u Tags: Undo Reverted references removed
  • 06:0106:01, 1 April 2021 diff hist −950 Æsir–Vanir WarPlease use the talk section, all the editions were detailedly explained and in fact reflect views already expressed by other users many months ago. Reverting several well-explained editions because you think they are 'bizarre' is no sufficient motive. Please ellaborate or then don't change/ruin the article and contributions to it. Tags: Undo Reverted references removed
  • 05:5805:58, 1 April 2021 diff hist +54 Vanirthe ancestors of the Proto-Indo-Europeans were also part of Neolithic Europe. Sources used in the article do not design the Vanir as fertility gods, but their 'structuralist' view only stresses that they fulfilled certain (structural) functions. The wording of my edit better reflects that. Further explained in Talk section.
  • 05:5705:57, 1 April 2021 diff hist +1,572 Talk:Vanir→‎Indo-European/Pre-Indo-European duality and the subject of the Vanir as fertility gods: new section
  • 05:4405:44, 1 April 2021 diff hist +28 VanirYour reversals are also undoing corrections and improvements to the text that have no ideological or substantial background to be questioned, such as adjusting a line with typo which says "the question of whether the Vanir are the reflection of the meeting of a purported historic meeting between different peoples in the ancient past" repeating the same word. Please don't do a full reversal to change just one line.

31 March 2021

  • 23:1923:19, 31 March 2021 diff hist +10 Anglo-Saxon paganismNo edit summary
  • 23:1823:18, 31 March 2021 diff hist −8 Æsir–Vanir War→‎Proto-Indo-European basis: > Historicist basis (better reflect the scholarly discussion - some hold the Aesir to have hailed from Asia while only some of these scholars who adhere to scuh historicist basis identify them with Indo-European migrations. Not to mention fringe theories such as Turkic or Armernian origins of the Aesir... Tag: Reverted
  • 23:1523:15, 31 March 2021 diff hist +4 VanirNo edit summary Tag: Reverted
  • 23:1423:14, 31 March 2021 diff hist +75 VanirFixed a typo and changed the wording to better reflect the historicist/structuralist scholarly discussion. Also, after reading the source material "Dumézil, Georges, trans. John Lindow. - The gods: Aesir and Vanir. in: Gods of the Ancient Northmen" I removed the mention of the Vanir as proposed Indo-European fertility gods, as the source doesn't mention them as such in any moment. Tag: Reverted

14 March 2021

13 March 2021

12 March 2021

7 March 2021

  • 03:1403:14, 7 March 2021 diff hist +24 VanirUndid revision 1010707006 by Bloodofox (talk) - No sourced material was removed. There is no need to take it to Talk when the very article, in its introduction clearly state: "The Vanir are only attested in these Old Norse sources". Please give a coherent explanation for undoing the changes. Tags: Undo Reverted

6 March 2021

  • 21:2621:26, 6 March 2021 diff hist +24 VanirMy final edit on this article. Again, it is vastly stated that there is only archeological evidence of the Vanir among the Norse peoples and, speculatively, likely among other Germanic Peoples. To use the term "Indo-Europeans" when relating to the Vanir seems utterly wrong. Where are the equivalents for the Vanir in Paleo-Balkan religion? In Celtic religion? In Roman and Greek religion, and other I.E derived religions? Please put a coherent explanation to this before editing and adding such term Tag: Reverted
  • 15:5015:50, 6 March 2021 diff hist −8 Æsir–Vanir WarAgain, to call the Vanir as "unwarlike" or "unaggressive" doesn't reflect reality, where they inflicted several costly casualties on the Aesir and didn't lose the war. In this context, using the term Indo-European "migration" rather than "invasion" seems to better reflect the facts, as the Aesir came to a settlement with the Vanir (like a "migrating" people, fusing and syncretizing with the locals, rather than an "invading" people, subjugating the inferredly "inferior" local peoples) Tag: Reverted
  • 15:4515:45, 6 March 2021 diff hist −934 Æsir–Vanir WarSuch theory not only contradicts the very information in the article: the Vanir didn't lose the war, but it also deviates from the Proto-Indo-European basis theory into Dumézil's specific tripartite "functions" theory. Even if such theory was to be included (which seems it shouldn't as it is misplaced), it would require another category or topic and further explanation on what these "functions" mean. But again, the tripartite functions of Dumézil don't match the reality of the myth. Tags: Manual revert Reverted references removed
  • 15:3315:33, 6 March 2021 diff hist +89 Anglo-Saxon paganismNo edit summary Tag: Reverted
  • 15:2815:28, 6 March 2021 diff hist −61 Anglo-Saxon paganismaltered the text as to leave no doubt that the concept of a world-tree might be an exclusivity of Indo-European peoples. The part that cautioned that any Anglo-Saxon world tree would likely not be comparable to Norse ones needs further explanation (why? how?) or it should be removed, as it contradicts the previous line which said it might come from a common Indo-European root, which the Norse also share. Please look at this and give a coherent explanation.
  • 15:1815:18, 6 March 2021 diff hist +3 Anglo-Saxon paganismspelling

2 March 2021

  • 14:3314:33, 2 March 2021 diff hist −18 Template:Anglo-Saxon paganismI will still remove and argue that the Neorxnawang entry is out of place. The very first line on the article says that: "Neorxnawang is an Old English noun used to translate the Christian concept of paradise in Anglo-Saxon literature" it is a translation of a christian concept and the article and any references found on it do not provide evidence of this being a belief or term that ever saw widespread use among such pagans. Instead it conflicts with ideas of the afterlife, Hel & Valhalla...
  • 14:2914:29, 2 March 2021 diff hist −1 User talk:187.36.176.42No edit summary
  • 14:2814:28, 2 March 2021 diff hist +1,260 User talk:187.36.176.42No edit summary
  • 00:1600:16, 2 March 2021 diff hist −485 Anglo-Saxon paganismUndid revision 1009334634 by Johnbod (talk) Still, the concept of a world-tree is verifiably found in mythologies of people all across the world, not just the Indo-Europeans, so the "referenced material" is wrong, it is positing an outlandish exclusivist theory, out of place, & harming understanding of the article & theme (as something "Indo-European"). The stated difference between the old norse & A.S concepts need further ellaboration. Tags: Undo Reverted

1 March 2021

  • 22:4422:44, 1 March 2021 diff hist +18 VanirUndid revision 1009364773 by Berig (talk) there is no mention of the "Vanir" outside Scandinavian and Old Norse culture, specifically. The phenomenon cannot be attributed to "Indo-Europeans", as other Indo-European groups, even continental germanic and anglo-saxon ones, didn't have any recorded reference to the Vanir in their culture. Swapping "Germanic"/"Old Norse" for "Indo-European" or "Proto-Indo-European" there is plainly wrong. Tags: Undo Reverted
  • 22:3722:37, 1 March 2021 diff hist −7 Ottoman–Venetian War (1537–1540)Naples and Sicily were under the Spanish Empire
  • 08:1208:12, 1 March 2021 diff hist −11 Armée des ÉmigrésFixing spelling mistakes and French spellings. There is a lot more words in the article that could be further translated into english but it feels more appropriate to retain the original French pronounciations

27 February 2021

  • 22:1422:14, 27 February 2021 diff hist −26 Early Germanic cultureRemoved the "Indo-European topics" header, as the Early Germanic peoples had already branched from the proposed Proto-Indo-Europeans a long time ago and the header refers to language and language groups, while the article refers to culture. Tag: Reverted
  • 22:1222:12, 27 February 2021 diff hist +18 Vanir→‎Historicists and structuralists: the Vanir belong to the germanic and more specific the norse tradition, so it makes more sense to refer to their existence in the Early Germanic peoples than in the broader "Indo-European" peoples. Tag: Reverted
  • 22:0522:05, 27 February 2021 diff hist −125 Æsir–Vanir Waredited the "Theories" section to be more in line with the terms used in the article about the Vanir. The idea that the Vanir were met by a more aggressive, warlike cult/people is baseless, as the Vanir are not, in any way, describe as non-agressive or unwarlike. They fight the war with the Aesir to a draw and conclude a treaty in equal terms. Tag: Reverted
  • 21:5121:51, 27 February 2021 diff hist −30 Template:Anglo-Saxon paganismThe Aesir, as the linked article stated, were Norse gods (and they were not an individual god). It needs to be further ellaborated if it is to be linked with the Anglo-Saxon tradition. It also should go alongside with a proper interpreation of the so-called "Vanir". I removed the "Neorxnawang" concept as, as was stated in the article itself, it was merely an old-english translation of a christian term, not something widely attested as a belief among the Anglo-Saxon pagans. Tag: Reverted
  • 21:4621:46, 27 February 2021 diff hist −485 Anglo-Saxon paganismRemoved the line which posited a theory that the concept of a "World Tree" originated in some "ancient Proto-Indo-European society" and was carried by people who descend from the "Indo-Europeans". This would conflict with the "World Tree" page here on Wikipedia, where it is broadly stated that such a concept was found across multiple cultures around the globe. Tag: Reverted
  • 21:3921:39, 27 February 2021 diff hist +324 Template:Norse people footerMerged the history and prehistory sections and added the many Norse trade and colonization routes to the "Expansion" section. Made some spelling corrections and changed the Walhǫllr pronounce to Valhalla (not all Norse peoples used that pronounciation, it makes more sense to add the standard english one). Added Thegn, Longships, Skalds and Runestones to the society list. Corrected some things in regard to religion (Norse people didn't practice "Proto-Indo-European religion")...
  • 19:5619:56, 27 February 2021 diff hist +13 French Revolutionary Warsadded information on the date of Austrian involvement and rearranged the order of the Kingdom of Naples, Knights Hospitaller and Malta.
  • 19:4919:49, 27 February 2021 diff hist −596 French Revolutionary WarsRearranged the belligerents and removed Newfoundland & Ireland as independent belligerents (they were under Great Britain).
  • 18:3918:39, 27 February 2021 diff hist −356 War of the Polish SuccessionThe source for the casualties numbers seems unreliable and shows a huge discrepancy from the casualties lists of the individual battles. The number of casualties listed for Stanislaus' allies seem exaggerated given they conducted successful campaigns in Italy and the Rhine. Instead, I listed the added-up casualties from the individual battles. Tag: references removed
  • 18:2218:22, 27 February 2021 diff hist +669 Talk:Cabinet wars→‎Colonial Wars: new section
  • 18:1618:16, 27 February 2021 diff hist +53 Cabinet warsNo edit summary
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