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'No Pussyfooting'
editThis album not in discography but mentioned in text. This was the first release after Eno left Roxy which isn't clear - it was released before the solo album "Here Come the Warm Jets". It was also the price of a single. It's a collaboration - Fripp & Eno - it should have a place. It's also considered by some as a precursor to the later ambient albums. I'll look for citation on this.Thelisteninghand (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. A source should be easily found. Not sure how "ambient" it was though! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- p.s. here's a 2017 tour trailer. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Seeing the complete discography has its own article I have not added (No Pussyfooting) - did add 'Small Craft on a Milk Sea' and some other edits. But I wonder whether the discography here should be deleted?Thelisteninghand (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Articles do vary. But standard practice seems to be to leave the main albums. It does say:
- "This is an incomplete list, see Brian Eno discography"
- Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Eno - 'Musician'
editHi - I've just changed Brian Eno's occupation! As the opening line states he's a musician it can't be right that he's described as a record producer. He's also listed WP 'Musicians'. I know he hates the description but was denied a request to enter "non-musician" in his British passport. Thelisteninghand (talk) 16:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
A very, very, very long article
editIt's length is inversely proportional to the importance of the subject, and in direct proportion to the desire to use Wikipedia for self-promotion.
Oh dear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.218.171 (talk) 23:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is quite a long article, but it is within WP:SIZERULE guidelines at around 69 kB of text in the main body.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Why do you think the subject is less important than other comparable contemporary musicians? But you're also suggesting that Mr Eno has added lots of material to this article for "self promotion"? If so, you'll need to present the evidence here and then to mark this Talk page with a WP:COI tag. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- “Mr” Eno is a certifiable blowhard. I’d bet dollars-to-donuts that he was the one pumping up this article. This page, while EXTREMELY well written, could do with a haircut (if not a shave with the #2 attachment). 2601:192:4C7F:C155:B4CC:B447:E6A:926C (talk) 17:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Foreverandevermore description
editfrom https://www.brian-eno.net/ : "Brian Eno releases his latest studio album FOREVERANDEVERNOMORE today (October 14) on vinyl, CD, digital formats and Dolby Atmos Blu-ray (Super Deluxe Edition exclusive). The record was made at his studios in West London and Norfolk. A song-based album, Brian’s vocals are featured on the majority of the 10 tracks, which makes it a first since 2005’s ‘Another Day On Earth’. On FOREVERANDEVERNOMORE Brian experimented using tonal over major chord changes: “My voice has changed, it’s lowered, it’s become a different personality I can sing from. I don’t want to sing like a teenager, it can be melancholic, a bit regretful. As for writing songs again – it’s more landscapes, but this time with humans in them.” “I like creating worlds, that’s what I do as an artist, creating sonic worlds. Now after quite a long absence of humans in those worlds I have tried putting one in and seeing how they feel in the world I’ve made.” Brian Eno"
Given the volatile nature of the web and the lack of a specific entry for this album adequate to describe the diversity and specificity of construction of this album as compared to other instrumentals, perhaps it will be helpful for this quote to find its way somewhere in some entry or part of this one. 176.206.242.131 (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
Names
editIn the "Early life" section, Brian Eno's name was claimed to be "Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno", but the cited reference, David Sheppard's biography "On Some Faraway Beach", states "Brian Peter George Jean-Baptiste de la Salle Eno". The discrepancies are the presence of the title "St.", and the alterations to the saint's Christian name, Jean-Baptiste. It is not usual to include the title "St." in a confirmation name. Although it is reasonable to translate a saint's Christian name, it is not reasonable to partially translate it, i.e. Jean to John, but not Baptiste to Baptist, and it is even more unreasonable to inset the French word "le", a word that doesn’t appear in the original French name.
A Roman Catholic website of confirmation names gives "John Baptist" as the confirmation name associated with John Baptist De La Salle; no "St", and a fully-translated Christian name, with no extraneous "le" inserted. Even the saint’s surname, "De La Salle", is not considered necessary.
Unless Eno has included his confirmation name in his name by deed poll, it is not part of his legal name, so he would not be able to include it in the name on his passport or driving licence. He does not even seem to use a "stage" name in which his confirmation name appears. Why would someone who describes himself as a "kind of evangelical atheist" (see section "Personal life") want to use a Roman Catholic confirmation name?
Recently there has been activity in the article regarding Eno's confirmation name. On 9 February 2024, an edit removed it from the name at the start of the lead section, with the edit summary "We don't need confirmation names in ledes unless they are significantly used by the bearer". Since then this confirmation name has twice been added then removed.
Incidentally, on 21 February 2024, an edit removed the forename "George" from Eno’s birth name in the "infobox" with the edit summary "Removed 2nd middle name of George from the born category. George does not appear on his birth certificate or first marriage record, but does on Companies House and various electoral registers. Assuming Eno added George later in life." This edit has since been reverted, perhaps due to the lack of a normal cited reference.
I have changed the name in the "Early life" section to agree with the cited reference. The "Other names" in the infobox still includes the "Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno" name. Maidenhair (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Catholic citation
editIn attempting to cite that Brian grew up Catholic, I came across a fine quote from him in The Guardian. In attempting to add it as a note (efn), I have apparently done something wrong. It doesn't get displayed when the link ('[a]') is clicked. Help! Paulmlieberman (talk) 17:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed by paul2520
- The usual method would have been to use a "cite news" template, with the quote, if required, as a
|quote=
parameter. From the Efn template documentation: Explanatory footnotes oder Efn are footnotes which provide something other than, or more than, a reference to a source that supports the accompanying text. - Maidenhair (talk) 12:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- The usual method would have been to use a "cite news" template, with the quote, if required, as a