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editI'm a brand-new newby, and I'm not sure if this is the right procedure, but I guess someone will set me straight if it's not. I somehow couldn't sort it out by consulting the help pages.
The article about David Farragut looks well done, but I found what was noted in passing about his father George somewhat misleading (there's no article about him yet). I'm not prepared to edit the David Farragut article, let alone write one on his father, but I just wanted to pass on a brief comment and suggested links that might be used to improve the present article.
What I found misleading was referring to George as a former British merchant captain, while noting New book takes humbug out of quotations]
incidentally that he was born on Minorca (which was passed back and forth between different powers during the late eighteenth century). The reader can easily get the impression that the Farraguts were a family of British background. In fact, they were Spanish, or more precisely of Aragonese-Catalonian descent. A thirteenth-century ancestor was Don Pedro Farragut, who took part in the wars against the Moors. George Farragut, having little sympathy with Britain, emigrated to the North American colonies and was active on the colonists' side in the War of Independence.
This link should be especially helpful:
http://www.pattonhq.com/militaryworks/farragut.html
This has supplementary information about the early Farraguts, though there's a typo that puts Pedro Farragut into the eighteenth century:
www.abraham-lincoln.org/admiralfarragut.org/
- (domain later blacklisted as spam. --A. B. (talk) 01:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC))
--anon
I did not know that. Thanks! But tell us who you are! Also, bravo to the article writer! You got "flag officer" right. Most "learned" sources don't. Congratulations. Who were you? Trekphiler 20:09, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Things named for Farragut
editIn the section about things named after Admiral Farragut, I think David Glasgow Farragut High School and D.G.F. Elementary School should be added, they're Department of Defense schools located on Naval Station Rota Spain. Here [1] is the website for the high school and here [2] is it's alumni site.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Munchkin3590 (talk • contribs)
-- I had added D.G.F some time ago. It, apparently, has been edited out for some reason.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.10.236.133 (talk • contribs)
Street in Hurontown, Michigan should be included. --172.56.36.209 (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Image selection
editAny opinions on the image swap? --Dual Freq 16:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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After
- Is there a reason for it other than to hide that the original photograph is damaged? If one wants to see what Farragut looked like, the original is superior. If one wants to artistically pretend the photo is not damaged than the photoshopped one is better. MichaelSH 18:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't photo-shop the second photo, it's from the US DOD image archive. It must be restored, but it's the same picture. --Dual Freq 03:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Then US DOD photoshopped it. Clearly it has been cropped and had had a dramatic change in the contrast to hide the defects of the original photograph. MichaelSH 16:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- speaking of images why does this article need two basically identical images of the guy? 66.57.251.83 11:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Dam the Torpedos
editNew book takes humbug out of quotations has a news story on a new book that documents false quotes. This source alleges that Farragut did not say ""Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead". MichaelSH 18:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I did see a book like that around 2006 or 2005 and found that it was poorly researched. In all likelihood he did say it and the book is probably mostly garbage. 75.48.4.24 (talk) 04:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Years
editThe article says that he was born in 1801 and entered the navy as midshipman in December 1810 (sic!). Obviously both can't be correct... --dllu 09:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, both are correct. In that era, it was not unheard of for boys that young to serve as midshipmen. CruiserBob 02:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
The article doesn't mention...
edit...That Farragut is a portmanteau of fairy & faggot. 67.5.156.50 21:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
In what language? Obviously not in American English. 75.48.4.24 (talk) 04:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Age error
editThe Wiki article says David Farragut was born on July 5, 1801 and entered the navy as a midshipman on Dec. 17, 1810 at 12 years old. One of the dates must be wrong because if he was born in 1801 he would not have been 12 in 1810.216.182.53.142 (talk) 23:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
editIt appears that this article may be deeply-seeded with relatively subtle acts of vandalism. Please be on the watch for such. Ender78 (talk) 00:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Parts of it do seem strange. I think someone, to avoid plagiarism, rewrote source material but sometimes lost the meaning. The organization of it could be improved, e.g.
Legacy
Places and Things (instead of "In Memoriam") Monuments Art and Literature US Postage (this is well-written, and therefore I suspect, plagiarized :( )
Rank insignia
editThe image of the Civil War rank Admiral rank epaulette does does not appear to match that of the image in the infobox where if one looks closely at the rank epaulette one can clearly see the end of an an anchor.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Rear Admiral vs Flag officer
editI don't understand this line, "Congress honored him by creating the rank of rear admiral on July 16, 1862, a rank never before used in the U.S. Navy. Before this time, the American Navy had resisted the rank of admiral, preferring the term 'flag officer', to distinguish the rank from the traditions of the European navies." Rear Admirals are flag officers, but not all flag officers are rear admirals. There is no cite here, so I can't see what the source of this comment is. Does anyone have any proof to verify this flag officer - rear admiral thing? 155.213.224.59 (talk) 13:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Place of Death
editThe infobox gives Farragut's place of death as "Portsmouth, New Hampshire (now Kittery, Maine)." Having looked at the articles for both places, they seem to be completely different (albeit on opposite sides of the same river). Can anyone clarify why this note is included in the article? Margolensis (talk) 23:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'm guessing he was at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard which is on an island that was involved in the Piscataqua River border dispute. --Dual Freq (talk) 00:22, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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Street
editStreet in Laredo Texas should also be added 2603:8080:DF08:B300:1CAC:95DC:A6B6:6197 (talk) 05:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Parents’ birth dates?
editThey seem off. His father served in the Spanish navy and then immigrated at the age of 11? He married David Farragut’s mother when she was 10? 11? Something doesn’t seem right 72.74.71.100 (talk) 03:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC)