Talk:Democracy

Change the thumbnail to something America related?

To many people the American flag symbolizes freedom and democracy. America is the worlds oldest democracy and the most powerful. It is only right that the thumbnail changes to something with an American flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxsmart50 (talk • contribs) 01:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Kratos

The article defines Kratos as "rule" and cites the Oxford dictionary. However the Greek Kratos is more often translated as power or force. The Greek word "Archon" is a more accurate translation of "rule." That distinction seem important in light of the distinction between political systems of -archy and -cracy. I think it would be more accurate to define kratos as "power" rather than "rule." 71.105.207.249 (talk) 02:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

"Constitutional democracy" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Constitutional democracy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 25 § Constitutional democracy until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 06:44, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Relationship to Capitalism

There are some who say that capitalism and democracy go hand in hand, and others who proclaim that they are contradictory.

Personally, with democracy not yet having existed separately from capitalism, I wonder if it can function without it. Obviously, they don't need one another to survive, or else capitalism would've made China a democracy. However, again, we have yet to see a non-capitalist democracy in the modern day.

I'm just wondering, is capitalism a prerequisite for democracy, or is it just something that often coexists a lot? I would be happy if it could be discussed here. Western Progressivist (talk) 16:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

WP:NOTAFORUM Furius (talk) 18:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Western Progressivist Capitalism was invented in the 16th century The Roman Republic and Athens existed well before then

The reason why China stayed authoritarian is because the people have never had real freedom they've had insane emperors there entire history why should that stop Boby123321 (talk) 02:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

A critique of the electoralist definition of (minimalist) democracy

The first paragraph states that « Democracy (from Ancient Greek: δημοκρατία, romanized: dēmokratía, dēmos 'people' and kratos 'rule') is a system of government in which state power is vested in the people or the general population of a state. Under a minimalist definition of democracy, rulers are elected through competitive elections while more expansive definitions link democracy to guarantees of civil liberties and human rights in addition to competitive elections. »

I agree with the first sentence, but not the second, which i find misleading: elections have not a great track record of providing a way of vesting power in the voters. Conversely many human groups vest power quite uniformly, democratically, without resorting to elections - for instance i would argue that many european countries have been democratic before any even used elections. It seems to me that what matters is the depth of agreement between elites, leaders - who are always few in number - and the people they lead: this necessarily reflects "rule of the people", the sovereign-people imposing its will, through some process which may not be obvious, and need not be elections, but (almost surely) not by chance. Plm203 (talk) 19:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Einführung

Introduction of democracy 2409:4085:4E9F:85FC:D0B4:F525:E663:67F7 (talk) 15:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)