Talk:Islam in the United States

Latest comment: 8 hours ago by AnonMoos in topic Recommended Updates

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I think we should include some of the oldest mosques in the article. LatinoMuslim 16:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Books:
Some ideas include mention of the book:
'Muslims of the Heartland' explores how immigrants made the Midwest home in the early 20th century | WKAR Public Media
https://www.wkar.org/wkar-news/2022-02-24/muslims-of-the-heartland-explores-how-immigrants-made-the-midwest-home-in-the-early-20th-century LatinoMuslim 16:40, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Mosques:
Mosque images that can be included:
Highland Park, Michigan, 1921, mosque
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDNR/bulletins/2ce24f3
Ross, North Dakota, 1929, mosque
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lost_Architecture/comments/ivd5rt/the_earliest_photographed_purposebuilt_mosque_in/?rdt=43168
Michigan City, Indiana, 1931, mosque
https://twitter.com/EdwardECurtisIV/status/1383752941404770304
Cedar Rapids, Iowa, 1934, mosque
https://mothermosque.org/history/
LatinoMuslim 16:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have to ask whether any of those were Ahmedi? Ahmedism was more prominent than "ordinary" Islam in the U.S. in the early 20th century... AnonMoos (talk) 20:29, 9 September 2023 (UTC)Antwort
@AnonMoos Ahmadis are not Muslims. 39.34.135.121 (talk) 09:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Antwort
That's what the government of Pakistan says, but it doesn't change the fact that Ahmedis were rather prominent in the U.S. during the first half of the 20th century, and built some of the buildings called "mosques", until large-scale immigration of adherents of other types of Islam occurred under the 1965 law, and other reasons... AnonMoos (talk) 20:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Hi {{{JimRenge}}}, Quranists, Ahmadiyyas, and Mahdavis are not Muslims. Thus, describing their presence in United States in the article about Islam is inaccurate. 144.48.128.244 (talk) 02:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Antwort
144.48.128.244/39.34.135.121, we try to structure the article in a way that reflects what mainstream sources say about the topic. Per Encyclopedia Britannica "Ah-.madiyyah, modern Islamic sect and a name shared by several Sufi (Muslim mystic) orders." ([1]) They are regarded as an Islamic sect although "the sect's doctrine is unorthodox in some aspects." JimRenge (talk) 10:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't have strong opinions about something which is not my religion (except I find the government of Pakistan's attitudes toward physicist Abdus Salam to often be strange). However, those who edit this article should be aware that if Ahmadis are excluded, then there were very few Muslims and very few institutional manifestations of Islam in the early 20th century United States (outside of foreign diplomats in Washington DC). It might also mean that some of the mosques listed above could not be included on the article... AnonMoos (talk) 11:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply