Talk:Order of the Sacred Treasure
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This needs to be merged with Zuihosho - --Liveforever 8 July 2005 16:34 (UTC)
Moving this page?
editEvery source I've encountered, including the Japanese Prime Minister's Decoration Bureau's English-language sub-page, identifies this award in terms of a singular noun -- Order of the Sacred Treasure, not Order of the Sacred Treasures ...? If it would be perceived as an improvement, I would be willing to do the work involved in correcting this trivial error.
Is there is general agreement/disagreement with moving or re-naming this page from Order of the Sacred Treasures to Order of the Sacred Treasure? Perhaps the current spelling re-direct is really all that's needed. --Ooperhoofd 18:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Status: pending needed support/citation?
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The following names are questionable. Supporting reference citations were not found in a superficial Google search. Any or all can be promptly restored when a verified relationship to this honor is posted:
George Edward Gauntlett (Japanese name Ganto Tadashi) --Ooperhoofd 23 August 2007MOVED, see belowFriedrich Lederer, 1992 <:ref> Document Nr. 10819 Heisei 4, Sept.22</ref> --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowFukuyoshi Kanai --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowOtsuma Kotaka (1884-1970) --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowWilliam H. Rogers --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowDiego Simonetti, 1920 --Tenmei 15:42, 9 January 2009MOVED, see belowToraji Soma --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowTse Kai Ann, 1985. --Tenmei 10 October 2008MOVED, see belowRaymond Ernest Oliver (1920-2005) Honor awarded 14 September 1968. Tenmei 13:58, 27 June 2009MOVED, see below
Status: notability?
editDoes it make sense to limit new additions to this list excluding those with plainly valid citation support, like Smith below?
Sir Edmund Charles Wyldbore Smith (1877-1938)<:ref>London Gazette, p. 10197. 22 October 1920; Peerage: Edmund Charles Wyldbore Smith, ID #32180.</ref>RESTORED
Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to
- (a) those who already have Wikipedia articles
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- (b) those who are notable for something other than being honored with this Imperial decoration -- see, e.g., US Navy Cross edit history?
This diff is a first step in seeking consensus opinion. Tenmei 18:36, 2 April 2009 --Tenmei (talk) 14:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article are re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:
- people listed here must have articles on Wikipedia and be notable for something other than receiving this Japanese honor -- see "Status: Notability" on talk page
The names of those recipients whose award is confirmed by a reliable source, but who do not have an article yet are listed below:
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- Class unknown
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The names of those with neither confirmation by a reliable source nor an article are listed below:
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In due course, perhaps all or most of these can be restored to the article. --Tenmei (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s L'Harmattan.
- ^ http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/t/2010/101103.html
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
L'Harmattan"
was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ Commander Fleet Activities, Sasebo>
- ^ Canedy, Dana. "Douglas Greenwald, 83, Editor And Economist for McGraw-Hill", New York Times. January 18, 1997.
- ^ http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/t/2010/101103.html
- ^ 武内博編著 『来日西洋人名辞典』 日外アソシエーツ 普及版 1995
- ^ Kirkup, James (April 17, 2004). "René Sieffert, Japanologist who translated the 'Ten Thousand Leaves' of the Man'yōshū". Independent. London.
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
- ^ L'Harmattan web site(in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
- ^ (Reference from "El Pais", Spanish newspaper); Asociación de Estudios Japoneses (Spanish): [1].
- ^ Honor awarded 1973 -- Appelo, Tim. "University of the Future: The physical transformation into a premier independent university," Seattle University Magazine. Summer 2008; Kubota Gardens: short history.
- ^ a b Cite error: The named reference
L'Harmattan gsrays
was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), First Latin American honored by Japanese government
- ^ Gilpin, Kenneth (December 3. 1997). "Tristan E. Beplat, 85, Banker Who Aided Japan After War". New York Times.
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(help) - ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Grand Cross
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with ribbon and gold rays, presented in person by H. M. Emperor Akihito
- ^ Lavietes, Stuart. "Frank Okamura, Bonsai Expert, Is Dead at 94", New York Times. January 14, 2006.
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Grand officer
- ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
- ^ Out of Japan - TIME
- ^ Johnston, David Cay. "Carl S. Shoup, 97; Shaped Japan's Tax Code", New York Times. March 31, 2000.
- ^ L'Harmattan web site(in French), Order with gold rays
- ^ Honor award 14 September 1968
Status: verifiability?
editDoes it make sense to limit new additions to this list? This thread is a first step in seeking consensus opinion.
Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to
- (a) those who already have Wikipedia articles
- and
- (b) those whose award of this Japanese honor is also verified by a reliable source citation -- see, e.g., US Navy Cross edit history?
In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article could be re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:
- the award of this Japanese honor must be confirmed by a reliable source citation -- see "Status: verifiability" on talk page
The names of those with neither confirmation by a reliable source nor an article are listed below:
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The names of those with an article, but with no reliable source confirming this honor are listed below:
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- Class unknown
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In due course, perhaps all or most of these can be restored to the article. --Tenmei (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to (a) those who already have Wikipedia articles and (b) those whose award of this Japanese honor is also verified by a reliable source citation -- Yes, every person included should both have an article and have a disinterested, reliable source for the claim of an award. -- Hoary (talk)
- No. The article is about the award itself, not the people who have received it. Any list should include any recipient of the award, whether or not they have a wiki page. That they do not have a wiki page does not get away from the fact that they received the award. It should always be so. I have been caught out by this in the past. I added a name to a list, only to have it removed because the individual did not have an English Wikipedia page (they had one in another language, which I HAD linked to). We have to get away from this sort of thing.--Samesawed (talk) 10:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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editRemoved entry for "Thomas Maxwell Hague (1921-2008), awarded 1992" as not WP:NOTABLE. Internet search did not return any results for the name or the award. If re-added please add a WP:SOURCE. — MrDolomite • Talk 14:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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