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Gatestone Institute
- See for example Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 134#Gatestone Institute and Taybeh and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 142#Quality of sources. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)e
- Thanks for links. Whenever I found "reliable" source for the same content, I will remove this "unreliable" source.Egeymi (talk) 19:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Rafic Hariri
Hi there Egeymi. I want to draw your attention to two points for this last modification you made to the article. My first observation is that the source you added does not say which of Hariris' son died in the accident, so I'm requiring more sources to clarify this by placing {{acn}} after that reference. My second one is that the change inside {{date}} was unneeded, as "{{date|2013-7-28}}" is already in dmy format. Cheers.--Jetstreamer Talk 22:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- Silly me, he is his only dead son. I've crossed out the nonsense comment. Sorry.--Jetstreamer Talk 22:20, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- It is OK Jetstreamer. May I add smt: {{date}} is not my addition which I never plan to use:)) Cheers, Egeymi (talk) 06:03, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, please email me at wikiocaasi yahoo.com so I can send you your Questia code :) Ocaasi t | c 14:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much:))) Egeymi (talk) 14:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks dear Egeymi for Tea! I appreciated.--George the writer (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- You welcome dear Editor, Georgethewriter. Egeymi (talk) 18:26, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
HAsnat khan
Hi mate, he doesnt speak pashto so he is not pashtun but pathan from jhelum . Also the sources that are provided have no mention of pashtun except one source but that is also someones elses view on him, These are two sources if you can add them and replace the word pashtun with pathan because for pashtun a guy needs to be speaking hat language while his family speaks punjabi http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-504110/A-tragic-affair-The-true-story-Princess-Diana-heart-surgeon-lover.html http://www.in.com/hasnat-khan/biography-114957.html
Or else i can do it ..i dont wana do edit warring so thats why i m askingSaladin1987 10:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, no need to mention his ethnic origin as far as there is a reliable source. So I deleted the term Pashtun. But in WP both Pashtun and Pathan are used mutually. Then you may consider to create a page for the Pathan people or something. So please try to find reliable sources. Both sources above are not reliable, the first one is a tabloid that is not used for biography of living people and the other one is a brief reference to him in an unreliable and unsourced website. Hope it helps, Egeymi (talk) 11:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I notice that you have been doing a bit of work on that article.
- It is an article on a living person, and so needs to be treated with appropriate respect.
- If you are a person who makes multiple edits and has such an article on your watchlist, could you please be diligent about keeping you eye out for unsuitable, unbalanced material.
- Someone back in about 2009, made the following edit, and it has been permitted to stay in the article, despite the fact that you, Hillybilly etc have made multiple edits.
- "Khan, whom Diana had famously described as "Mr Wonderful",[19] married 28-year-old Hadia Sher Ali in Pakistan in May 2006."
- What we are reading here is a statement supposedly encyclopedic about the biographical fact that Khan remarried. Ten years after Diana's death.
- Yet the stupid, mindless, cruelly sensationalist editor who wrote this sentence saw fit to include a "Diana mention" in what should have been a simple statement of fact.
- How can the man and his wife possibly escape from the oppressive memory of that previous relationship, if even an encylopedia includes mention of her pet name for him in the sentence that relates to their marriage.
- Basically, if you are seriously editting that article, watch out for this sort of sensationalist, scandalrag type of writing.
- Amandajm (talk) 14:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with you, I should say it is not my edit. I began to edit the article in May or June. Btw thanks for warning. Egeymi (talk) 14:35, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Addition: Yes I tried to add something and fix the other things in the article, but this particular sentence remained. Because there are so many problems to be fixed in this and other articles. Sometimes I often ask myself how these can be tolerated or remain without fixing. Egeymi (talk) 14:40, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- According to a leading expert (Jemima Khan, the former wife of Hasnat's distant cousin Imran Khan and a close friend of Princess Diana), Hasnat Khan belonged to the Pashtun ethnic group and this is well established so please don't delete or conceal this. Read the info provided by the sources in the references in Hasnat Khan's article for details. Ethnic Pashtuns are not confined to a particular territory and can live anywhere in Pakistan or anywhere in the world. Also, they can speak or use any language they wish. That applies to all ethnic groups in the world.--Fareed30 (talk) 19:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Addition: Yes I tried to add something and fix the other things in the article, but this particular sentence remained. Because there are so many problems to be fixed in this and other articles. Sometimes I often ask myself how these can be tolerated or remain without fixing. Egeymi (talk) 14:40, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with you, I should say it is not my edit. I began to edit the article in May or June. Btw thanks for warning. Egeymi (talk) 14:35, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry but Jemima Khan is not an expert though she lived in the country sometime. I will look at the sources whenever I have time. Egeymi (talk) 19:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look the source you put says "As Khan pointed out, "to marry an English girl is every conservative Pashtun mother's worst nightmare.". How can you put the other one you want. The other thing is that his etnicity is not so important. And please do not take my time with such insignificant details. Egeymi (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC).
- The source says pashtun you put Pathan. Confusing and this term will be deleted. Egeymi (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- The terms "Pashtun" and "Pathan" are synonymous, and they both redirect to the same page (Pashtun people). This is something well known internationally. Also, there are a number of distinguished and well known ethnic groups in Pakistan, including Punjabi, Pashtun (Pathan), Sindhi, Sariaki, Muhajirs, Balochi, and Kashmiri. [1] Therefore, he has to belong to ones of these and the sources in the references make it very clear that he belongs to the Pashtun (Pathan) group (i.e. "To Diana, marriage to the burly, heavy-smoking Pathan (the Northern Pakistani clan from which his family originates) was a dream she did not see as impossible..." [2]).
- You said: "Sorry but Jemima Khan is not an expert though she lived in the country sometime." However, you're very wrong because according to page 3, Diana's Final Heartbreak (Vanity Fair, July 2007), it states: "She made trips to Pakistan whenever she could to bone up on Hasnat's heritage. Her new best friend was Jemima Khan, the beautiful 22-year-old daughter of Annabel and Jimmy Goldsmith. At the time Jemima was married to the Pakistani cricket legend Imran Khan. The two women would sit up talking late into the night about how to handle marriage to a traditional-minded Muslim." [3] That makes it perfectly clear that Jemima Khan is a leading expert on the Diana-Khan affair. Last but not least, you shouldn't be telling editors that certain person's ethnicity is not so important because 1.) we're suppose to expand short articles like this one by adding all relevant information and one of that is his ethnicity, 2.) you don't own Wikipedia to be making up such ridiculous rule, and 3.) if his ethnicity is not so important then why are you wanting to delete it or conceal it from interested readers?--Fareed30 (talk) 04:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- The source says pashtun you put Pathan. Confusing and this term will be deleted. Egeymi (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look the source you put says "As Khan pointed out, "to marry an English girl is every conservative Pashtun mother's worst nightmare.". How can you put the other one you want. The other thing is that his etnicity is not so important. And please do not take my time with such insignificant details. Egeymi (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC).
- Please do not write anything more on this page and do what wp rules states in the article.Egeymi (talk) 05:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
indulgence is soothing! Amandajm (talk) 02:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC) |
- Yes, it does. Thanks for baklava:)) Egeymi (talk) 06:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Independent Centre
Er, because you added {{BLP unsourced}} to it and it's not a BLP? Number 57 16:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Now it has proper template. Egeymi (talk) 16:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Nikitin
I have problem understanding what you're doing... --TIAYN (talk) 07:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- I just deleted the unsourced names that you inserted into the infobox. You should provide a ref or refs for them or these will be deleted again by Egeymi. Hope it helps. Egeymi (talk) 08:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- YOu don't source things in the infobox.... State power of the USSR. The highest authorities and governments and their leaders. 1923-1991 years. Historical and biographical directory. / Comp. VI Ivkin. Moscow, 1999 --TIAYN (talk) 08:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- I mean these should be given in text with refs. I will try to find sources and use them in the text. Egeymi (talk) 08:27, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- YOu don't source things in the infobox.... State power of the USSR. The highest authorities and governments and their leaders. 1923-1991 years. Historical and biographical directory. / Comp. VI Ivkin. Moscow, 1999 --TIAYN (talk) 08:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
About Al Eqtisadiah and Aleqtsadia
Hi Egeymi. I've manually declined the WP:A10 for Aleqtsadia. Though it's obvious that "Aleqtsadia" is about the very same newspaper, it is not a "recently created article" and does have a "relevant page history" and so on. Looks to me like these two articles require Wikipedia:Merging. As to how to go about this? I understand that there are processes to be followed, but they are quite frankly beyond my capabilities. I'll ask for help very soon. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 13:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much and sorry for using incorrect tag. Egeymi (talk) 13:11, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- No problem at all ! The only person who made a real mistake here was me, making a big fuss about something that wasn't really all that important. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 14:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- It was not a mistake ! Thanks again, kind editor.Egeymi (talk) 14:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- No problem at all ! The only person who made a real mistake here was me, making a big fuss about something that wasn't really all that important. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 14:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Artikel
De nada, you're doing a lot of great work which you rarely get thanked for. Keep up the good work on the newspapers and Iranian palaces! If ever you're thinking of developing one or nomming for GA let me know!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Dr. Hope I will let you know soon. Egeymi (talk) 15:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
External links
Hi, I used to think the same and remove a link to a magazine or journal's main website if it was already in the infobox. I was corrected by User:DGG, who told me that it was essential to give that link also in the EL section. Not sure I could easily locate that remark, but if you want confirmation, I can ask him to comment here. --Randykitty (talk) 07:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Whatever the user's comment, there is a clear rule in WP:EL item 2, you may refer to it. Egeymi (talk) 07:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Do you mean point 2 under WP:ELPOINTS? That says "include appropriate external links in an "External links" section at the end of the article, and in the appropriate location within an infobox" (my italics). --Randykitty (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, yes it was it. But it is not clear. It is not a big deal, Egeymi (talk) 09:45, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- My view is based on 3.1.1 on that page, "Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any." along with "Official links", WP:ELOFFICIAL, and the general rule 1.1 at MOS:INFOBOX "keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts in the article in which it appears. " In general, infobox content,except for the illustration, should be the article also. DGG ( talk ) 18:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for explanation. As you may see above I finally got it. Egeymi (talk) 18:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- My view is based on 3.1.1 on that page, "Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any." along with "Official links", WP:ELOFFICIAL, and the general rule 1.1 at MOS:INFOBOX "keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts in the article in which it appears. " In general, infobox content,except for the illustration, should be the article also. DGG ( talk ) 18:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
HighBeam access, email needed
Hi, we tried to send you your HighBeam access code but you don't have email enabled. Could you email me at wikiocaasi yahoo.com so I can send you your code? Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 08:09, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Ocaasi. It has made me very happyyyyyyy:)))))) I am sending email now. Egeymi (talk) 08:18, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Once this is validated, you could consider updating User:Ocaasi/HighBeam8 if you feel like it (as I've just done). Happy editing! -- Trevj (talk) 10:14, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Erledigt, Egeymi (talk) 10:23, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Once this is validated, you could consider updating User:Ocaasi/HighBeam8 if you feel like it (as I've just done). Happy editing! -- Trevj (talk) 10:14, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello! The citation included in fn9 is literally correct. However, the source cited in the article seems to be a partial translation. The rehabilitation letter should have been a denial of her anti-Soviet activities but as formulated now it does not have this meaning. What is your opinion? Thanks. --Alexander Tendler (talk) 18:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, direct quotation says "there is no evidence". Doesn't it say that it is a denial of her anti-Soviet activities, though indirectly? If you could find more explicit source in this regard you may insert, of course. Egeymi (talk) 18:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- In the original, the quotation says: "...there was no evidence against her anti-Soviet activities." According to the rules of rhetoric, quotation means that there "...was evidence of her anti-Soviet activities" which is definitely wrong in the current context. I think we should add some qualification of the quotation content. Thanks.--Alexander Tendler (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
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editors-in-chief(s)
Hi, I see you have a PhD in linguistics, so I'm hesitant to revert you, but I'm basically 100% certain that the correct plural of "editor-in-chief" is "editors-in-chief" and not "editors-in-chiefs" (or "editor-in-chiefs"). Can you have a look at it again or explain me how I am wrong? Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 14:54, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi RKitty, you are right and I reverted my edit. Egeymi (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- However, the abbreviation is DAD, not Dilbilim Araşt., so I will correct it with a ref.Egeymi (talk) 15:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Great. However, the infobox field is not just for any abbreviation or acronym used for a journal, but most specifically for the ISO4 abbreviation. So I have changed it back in the infobox, but left DAD in the article body. Nice find, by the way, we don't have many journals that re notable enough for inclusion from that part of the world. --Randykitty (talk) 15:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- OK thanks for all your edits, I've learned what ISO4 abbreviation is. Egeymi (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Great. However, the infobox field is not just for any abbreviation or acronym used for a journal, but most specifically for the ISO4 abbreviation. So I have changed it back in the infobox, but left DAD in the article body. Nice find, by the way, we don't have many journals that re notable enough for inclusion from that part of the world. --Randykitty (talk) 15:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- However, the abbreviation is DAD, not Dilbilim Araşt., so I will correct it with a ref.Egeymi (talk) 15:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Dilbilim Araştırmaları cover
Hi, unless you actually designed that cover, you cannot claim it as own work. I'm assuming you mean that you made the scan, but the copyright remains with the journal. You should change th file license and rationale. Have a look at File:EJPcover.gif, for an example. (I got this from the journal writing guide, another useful link, I think. Happy editing! --Randykitty (talk) 21:53, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Can you please explain what I should do again, I just took the photograph, but I did not take file from any website. Egeymi (talk) 21:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- In that case, just copy the rationale from the EJPcover and adapt it for DAD, but instead of a URL you just write "photo of cover". I think that should do it. --Randykitty (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've changed the status as you described, hope it is OK now. Thanks for instructions and warning. Egeymi (talk) 22:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me! --Randykitty (talk) 22:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- ))) Hope it looks fine to everyone. Egeymi (talk) 22:21, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me! --Randykitty (talk) 22:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've changed the status as you described, hope it is OK now. Thanks for instructions and warning. Egeymi (talk) 22:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- In that case, just copy the rationale from the EJPcover and adapt it for DAD, but instead of a URL you just write "photo of cover". I think that should do it. --Randykitty (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Hope you come back soon
Hi, hope you'll enjoy your break (and that it is not because of something bad happening to you in RL) and that you'll be back soon. You've been creating a lot of good magazine articles and it is always sad to see good contributors like you leave! --Randykitty (talk) 08:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- It is really honour for me to hear such words from an editor like you. It is just a break, not because of anything bad. I will watch my pages and hope I will again create articles soon. Thanks, Egeymi (talk) 13:32, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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- Erledigt Egeymi (talk) 16:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Edo Ronchi
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- late notice, Erledigt, Egeymi (talk) 07:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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Work or publisher
Hi Egeymi, I'm mildly confused by this edit. Since when was Reuters a work and not a publisher? Surely if that were the case, our article on Reuters should be called Reuters? Similarly CNN and BBC? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi The R Man, the media outlets you mentioned are not only publishers but they have reporters who compiled the news that's why I made these changes. Regarding your second point, I have no idea. Happy new year btw. Egeymi (talk) 12:58, 31 December 2013 (UTC)